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Lisa

Lisa Report 12 Mar 2019 02:20

Help, I have been searching and searching for my Aunty (my dads sister ) for ages. Found a few leads but then hit a brick wall. Her name was Valerie June Waterlow born in Doncaster in 1944. I believe thru the records she married and her surname changed changed to Waters. Living in Chelsea. Valerie might have gone on to marry again to ‘Jones’.... I’m so stuck and need help please

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 12 Mar 2019 07:00

Am guessing you looked on freebmd

Have you checked it see if she had any children.

Also from the second marriage was she still of an age to have more children

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 12 Mar 2019 07:04

Sadly if she did remarry this looks like her

England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007 No Image

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Name: Valerie Joan Jones
Death Age: 52
Birth Date: 23 Apr 1944
Registration Date: Jul 1996
Registration district: Doncaster
Inferred County: South Yorkshire
Register Number: A47D
District and Subdistrict: 0421A

Second name is joan not June though

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 12 Mar 2019 07:09

Looks like she had a least two daughters from the first marriage

Details on freebmd

One girl married and is the electoral rolls but only to 2007

The other one hasn't married to 2007 but she isn't on the electoral rolls from then

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 12 Mar 2019 08:24

A tree on ancestry confirms the death I posted

And gives her birth as April 1944

She is the only birth coming up for waterlow / dent

So how is she your dad's sister

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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 12 Mar 2019 08:36

Is this the correct death?

Lisa said her name was Valerie June.

If Valerie J Waterlow were registered in September qtr 1944 in Doncaster, a birthdate of 23 Apr 1944, would be a late registration.

Rose


Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 12 Mar 2019 09:25

Her mum

MIRIAM
Last name WATERLOW
Gender Female
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year 1903
Age 45
Death quarter 2
Death year 1948
District Doncaster
County Yorkshire
Volume 2B
Page 344
Country England
Record set England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007


So she was 41 when Valerie was born

Did the dad remarry ??

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 12 Mar 2019 09:29

Dad didn't remarry

Deaths Sep 1949
Waterlow Walter 55 Doncaster 2b 306

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 12 Mar 2019 09:44

As Valerie was only 5 when she was orphaned, was she adopted after that?
Perhaps her surname was changed?

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 12 Mar 2019 10:20

her father possibly married in 1925 but his wife died aged 20 in 1928

there were no children

so how is Valerie connected to the posters father?

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 12 Mar 2019 10:33

There is no record on freebmd of a full sibling for Valerie

Her parents' marriage

Marriages Jun 1942 (>99%)
Dent Miriam Waterlow Doncaster 9c 2264
Waterlow Walter Dent Doncaster 9c 2264

1939 for the father ??????????????

Waterlow Household (5 People)
10 Highfield Road , Doncaster C.B., Yorkshire (West Riding), England

Walter Waterlow 01 Nov 1889 Male Corporation Lorry Driver Widowed 127 1
Mary Jones 29 Apr 1909 Female Household Duties Married 127 2
Sorry, this record is officially closed. Check if you can open a closed record.
Sorry, this record is officially closed. Check if you can open a closed record.
Sorry, this record is officially closed. Check if you can open a closed record.


Marriages Dec 1926 (>99%)
Seymour Ivy Waterlow Doncaster 9c 1381
Waterlow Walter H Seymour Doncaster 9c 1381

Deaths Mar 1928 (>99%)
Waterlow Ivy 20 Doncaster 9c 976

Hardly time for Ivy to produce three children, unless there was a multiple birth

There are, however, three Waterlow births in Doncaster with MMN King in the 1930's


And this marriage

Marriages Sep 1929 (>99%)
Jones Ernest King Doncaster 9c 1854
KING Mary Jones Doncaster 9c 1854

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 12 Mar 2019 10:51

Mary married again

Marriages Jun 1949 (>99%)
Bowater Frank Jones Doncaster 2b 858
Bowater Frank King Doncaster 2b 858
Jones Mary Bowater Doncaster 2b 858
King Mary Bowater Doncaster 2b 858

Dea

Dea Report 12 Mar 2019 11:00

I had been wondering what happened to that Mary Jones from the 1939 ErikaH - It looks like she does connect somewhere as the OP's name is Bowater !

Dea x

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 12 Mar 2019 11:01

How certain are you, Lisa, about Valerie's second forename? Do you have her birth cert?

Lisa

Lisa Report 12 Mar 2019 13:30

Hi, thanks for all you’re posts.... I shall set the record straight.
My nanna Mary King (maiden name) was married to Ernest Jones. He either died or they divorced. Mary then met Walter, they lived together but never married. Mary had a child to Ernest, Mavis Beryl Jones, she then went on to have two more children to Walter, Keith Waterlow (my dad) then Norma Waterlow. Mary and Walter split up. Walter then married Miriam Dent and Mary married Frank Bowater. Walter and Miriam had a child called Valerie June Waterlow. Miriam died in 1948 and not long after Walter died. Miriam’s sister (who’s name I don’t know) then raised Valerie. I think she owned the Rockingham pub in Doncaster. So that clears Valerie up.
As for my dad Keith, and Norma, they were raised by their mum and Frank. Now this is where all the names change cos Frank Bowater adopted my dad and Norma, so their names became BOWATER!!
The death record for Valerie isn’t her. Different name, different dates and she didn’t come back to Doncaster. I have checked all this. I did find 2 daughters of Valerie’s, Katherine Elizabeth Waters born 1976 and Joanna Claire Waters born 1974. Mothers maiden name Waterlow. Also on the electrol, Katherine Waters who had not married had her own house and the other occupant was Valerie J Waters.
I hope all this makes sense. I’ve come to a complete dead end now. I’ve looked at possible marriages for her daughters and found quite a few names who could of married Joanna. I’ve been on Facebook and messaged them all. No luck yet. There is another marriage for Valerie Waters to a ‘Jones’ but I can’t find anything out. Only that the marriage took place in Peterborough. My family tree on my dads side is a nightmare. Think my nanna married 3 times maybe 4...... I so need some help to find Valerie and/or her children. My dad is 83 and time is of the essence. Thank you all so much for looking for me. I’m touched that you have taken time from you’re lived to do this. If you’re wondering about my name, it was Lisa Bowater, I then married a Jeff Whittles and divorced him after 10 years and had my name changed to Lesa Waterlow. That really pleased my father. I then remarried to a Timothy Riordan, so now I’m Lesa Riordan. Yes I changed my first name spelling too. Anyway, if you can help anymore I’d appreciate it so much xxx

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 12 Mar 2019 13:34

You haven't said whether you have any certificates for Valerie

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 12 Mar 2019 13:36

Mavis's birth was registered thus:

Births Sep 1932 (>99%)
Waterlow Mavis B King Doncaster 9c 1216
Jones Mavis B King Doncaster 9c 1216

The inference to be drawn is that Waterlow was the father

Lisa

Lisa Report 12 Mar 2019 13:36

Oh and so to answer you’re question how Keith and Valerie are related, they are half brother and sister. Same dad, different mum xxx

Lisa

Lisa Report 12 Mar 2019 13:39

Yes my dad has Valerie’s birth cert xx

Lisa

Lisa Report 12 Mar 2019 13:41

No Mavis was Ernest Jones’s daughter. That’s for certain xx