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ErikaH

ErikaH Report 9 Mar 2019 10:34

Birth record shows that Ada was illegitimate

You will probably never be able to identify her father

Why did you think her maiden name was Batchelor?

Surely you checked your mother's birth details?

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 9 Mar 2019 10:52

Rose Ringham's tree on Ancestry

irth
15 Mar 1879 • Bristol, Gloucestershire
5 Sources
1879

(AGE)

Birth of Half-Sister Ada Ringham(1883–)
10 Sep 1883 • Bristol, Gloucestershire
1883

4

Baptism
11 May 1890 • Eastville, St Thomas, Gloucestershire, England
1 Source
1890

11

Residence
1891 • Stapleton, Gloucestershire, England
Relation to Head: Daughter; Inmate

1 Source
1891

12

Marriage
April 1903 • Bristol, Gloucestershire
1 Source
1903

24

Birth of Son Anthony Gould(1904–1985)
4 Mar 1904 • Weston Super Mare, Somerset
1904

24

Marriage
1904 • Bristol, Gloucestershire
Joseph Gould
(1874–1950)

1 Source
1904

25

Birth of Daughter Gwendoline Vera Gould(1906–1986)
5 Mar 1906 • Weston super Mare, Somerset, England
1906

26

Birth of Daughter Clodagh Gould(1911–1998)
16 Jan 1911 • Weston Super Mare, Somerset
1911

31

Residence
02 Apr 1911 • Weston super Mare, Somerset, England
Marital Status: Married; Relation to Head of House: Wife

1 Source
1911

32

Birth of Daughter Josephine Gould(1914–1985)
21 May 1914 • Weston-super-Mare, Somerset, England
1914

35

Residence
1939 • Gloucestershire, England
Marital Status: Married

1 Source
1939

60

Death of Half-Sister Emma Emily Ringham(1875–1949)
Dec 1949 • Bristol, Gloucestershire, England
1949

70

Death of Husband Joseph Gould(1874–1950)
7 Feb 1950 • Bristol, Gloucestershire, England
1950

70

Death
30 Sep 1966 • Bristol, Gloucestershire, England
2 Sources

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 9 Mar 2019 10:54

Ada's mother

1861

Name: Emma Bingham
[Emma Ringham]
Age: 8
Estimated birth year: 1853
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: Henry Bingham
Mother's name: Caroline Bingham
Gender: Female
Where born: Bath, Somerset, England
Civil Parish: Lyncombe and Widcombe
Ecclesiastical parish: Lyncombe and Widcombe
Town: Bath
County/Island: Somerset
Country: England

Registration district: Bath
Sub-registration district: Lyncombe
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 110
Piece: 1689
Folio: 85
Page Number: 18
Household Members:
Name Age
Henry Bingham 18
Caroline Bingham 40
William Bingham 11
Sarah Bingham 9
Emma Bingham 8
Henry Bingham 5
Alfred Bingham 2
Elizabeth Bingham 1/12

John

John Report 9 Mar 2019 13:49

ErikaH
That's great, thank you very much, our Ada is a bit of a surprise.

John

John Report 18 Jan 2020 21:47

Thank you all.

John

John Report 13 Jul 2021 11:29

Thank you very much indeed. Thanks. <3 <3

John

John Report 5 Sep 2024 17:35

many thanks folks, sorry about delay. Batchelor was what Ada called her maiden name, but not true it was Ringham, also from Barton Regis work house any records of Mr. Ringham my great grandfather? <3

nameslessone

nameslessone Report 5 Sep 2024 18:09

The 2019 entry says Bingham not Ringham. As there are several males in that list you should be clear as to which Bingham/Ringham you are referring to.

Most library services have free access to Ancestry and sometimes and/or FMP

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 5 Sep 2024 18:57

I'm not quite sure what you're asking, and am confused re the generations.
.
When you say "Mr. Ringham my great grandfather" - are you assuming that Ada's father was a Ringham?

Ada was born illegitimately - record already posted.

Ringham was her unmarried mother Emma's name. Emma was not married to a Ringham - nor to anyone else at the time of Ada's birth.

If you mean Ada's grandfather -

Emma's baptism:

Emma Ringham
in the Somerset, England, Church of England Baptisms, 1813-1914
Name Emma Ringham
Baptism Date 19 Feb 1854
Baptism Place Lyncombe and Widcombe, Somerset, England
Parish as it Appears Lyncombe & Widcombe
Father Henry Ringham
Mother Caroline Ringham


Emma married Henry Batchelor in 1898:

Emma Ringham
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1837-1915
Name Emma Ringham
Registration Year 1898 [1898]
Registration Quarter Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration district Bristol
Inferred County Gloucestershire
Volume 6a
Page 101
Records on Page (Name)
Henry Batchelor
Emma Ringham


Ada with her mother and stepfather in 1901, and two half brothers [EDIT: or rather, a half brother and a step-brother ]:

Ada B Batchler
in the 1901 England Census
Name Ada B Batchler [Ada B Batchlor]
Age 18
Estimated Birth Year abt 1883
Relation to Head Daughter
Gender Female
Father H Batchler
Mother E Batchler
Birth Place Bristol
Civil parish Bristol
Search Photos
View blank form
Ecclesiastical parish St Michael
County/Island Gloucestershire
Country England
Registration district Bristol
Sub-registration district St Augustine
ED, institution, or vessel 02
Neighbors
Piece 2371
Folio 42
Page number 27
Household schedule number 189
Household Members (Name) Age Relationship
H Batchler 43 Head
E Batchler 42 Wife
Ada B Batchler 18 Daughter
Harry Batchler 8 Son - Keynsham
Alfred Batchler 2 Son - Bristol


BATCHELOR, ALFRED EDWIN mmn RINGHAM
GRO Reference: 1899 M Quarter in BRISTOL Volume 06A Page 81


BATCHELOR, HENRY JAMES THOMAS mmn EVANS
GRO Reference: 1894 J Quarter in KEYNSHAM Volume 05C Page 614


Henry's first marriage:

Marriages Dec 1889 (>99%)
BATCHELOR Henry Adolphus Keynsham 5c 1181
Evans Sarah Keynsham 5c 1181


Henry and Sarah in 1891:

Henry Bachelor
in the 1891 England Census
Name Henry Bachelor
Gender Male
Age 36
Relationship Head
Birth Year 1855
Spouse
Sarah Bachelor
Birth Place Middlesex, England
Civil parish Keynsham
Residence Place Keynsham, Keynsham, Somerset, England
Registration district Keynsham
Sub registration district Keynsham
ED, Institution or Vessel 3
Neighbors
Piece 1945
Folio 37
Household Members (Name) Age Relationship
Henry Bachelor 36 Head
Sarah Bachelor 33 Wife


Deaths Sep 1895 (>99%)
Batchelor Sarah 43 Keynsham 5c 353



Apologies if any of this has been posted before.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 5 Sep 2024 19:33

Emma's parents' marriage:

Henry Ringham
in the Somerset, England, Marriage Registers, Bonds and Allegations, 1754-1914
Name Henry Ringham
Gender Male
Age Full Age
Marriage or Bann Date 10 Feb 1839
Marriage Place Walcot St Swithin, Somerset, England
Parish as it Appears Walcot
Father John Ringham
Spouse Caroline Ponfield

They are named Ringham in 1841 , Bingham in 1851 and 1861, and Ringham after that.

John

John Report 6 Sep 2024 15:21

Thanks, what does mmn stand for?

John

John Report 6 Sep 2024 16:37

ok I have worked it out now.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 6 Sep 2024 17:16

Mother's maiden name

John

John Report 24 Sep 2024 16:39

yes is Ringham, many thanks.

John

John Report 24 Sep 2024 17:01

many thanks, Where can I get Rose Ringham's tree?

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 24 Sep 2024 17:07

Rose/Rosa Ringham is in 11 members' trees on Ancestry.co.uk.

ErikaH copy/pasted info from one of them here on 9 Mar 2019 at 10:52