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ArgyllGran
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24 Sep 2024 17:07 |
Rose/Rosa Ringham is in 11 members' trees on Ancestry.co.uk.
ErikaH copy/pasted info from one of them here on 9 Mar 2019 at 10:52
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John
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24 Sep 2024 17:01 |
many thanks, Where can I get Rose Ringham's tree?
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John
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24 Sep 2024 16:39 |
yes is Ringham, many thanks.
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6 Sep 2024 17:16 |
Mother's maiden name
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John
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6 Sep 2024 16:37 |
ok I have worked it out now.
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John
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6 Sep 2024 15:21 |
Thanks, what does mmn stand for?
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5 Sep 2024 19:33 |
Emma's parents' marriage:
Henry Ringham in the Somerset, England, Marriage Registers, Bonds and Allegations, 1754-1914 Name Henry Ringham Gender Male Age Full Age Marriage or Bann Date 10 Feb 1839 Marriage Place Walcot St Swithin, Somerset, England Parish as it Appears Walcot Father John Ringham Spouse Caroline Ponfield
They are named Ringham in 1841 , Bingham in 1851 and 1861, and Ringham after that.
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5 Sep 2024 18:57 |
I'm not quite sure what you're asking, and am confused re the generations. . When you say "Mr. Ringham my great grandfather" - are you assuming that Ada's father was a Ringham?
Ada was born illegitimately - record already posted.
Ringham was her unmarried mother Emma's name. Emma was not married to a Ringham - nor to anyone else at the time of Ada's birth.
If you mean Ada's grandfather -
Emma's baptism:
Emma Ringham in the Somerset, England, Church of England Baptisms, 1813-1914 Name Emma Ringham Baptism Date 19 Feb 1854 Baptism Place Lyncombe and Widcombe, Somerset, England Parish as it Appears Lyncombe & Widcombe Father Henry Ringham Mother Caroline Ringham
Emma married Henry Batchelor in 1898:
Emma Ringham in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1837-1915 Name Emma Ringham Registration Year 1898 [1898] Registration Quarter Oct-Nov-Dec Registration district Bristol Inferred County Gloucestershire Volume 6a Page 101 Records on Page (Name) Henry Batchelor Emma Ringham
Ada with her mother and stepfather in 1901, and two half brothers [EDIT: or rather, a half brother and a step-brother ]:
Ada B Batchler in the 1901 England Census Name Ada B Batchler [Ada B Batchlor] Age 18 Estimated Birth Year abt 1883 Relation to Head Daughter Gender Female Father H Batchler Mother E Batchler Birth Place Bristol Civil parish Bristol Search Photos View blank form Ecclesiastical parish St Michael County/Island Gloucestershire Country England Registration district Bristol Sub-registration district St Augustine ED, institution, or vessel 02 Neighbors Piece 2371 Folio 42 Page number 27 Household schedule number 189 Household Members (Name) Age Relationship H Batchler 43 Head E Batchler 42 Wife Ada B Batchler 18 Daughter Harry Batchler 8 Son - Keynsham Alfred Batchler 2 Son - Bristol
BATCHELOR, ALFRED EDWIN mmn RINGHAM GRO Reference: 1899 M Quarter in BRISTOL Volume 06A Page 81
BATCHELOR, HENRY JAMES THOMAS mmn EVANS GRO Reference: 1894 J Quarter in KEYNSHAM Volume 05C Page 614
Henry's first marriage:
Marriages Dec 1889 (>99%) BATCHELOR Henry Adolphus Keynsham 5c 1181 Evans Sarah Keynsham 5c 1181
Henry and Sarah in 1891:
Henry Bachelor in the 1891 England Census Name Henry Bachelor Gender Male Age 36 Relationship Head Birth Year 1855 Spouse Sarah Bachelor Birth Place Middlesex, England Civil parish Keynsham Residence Place Keynsham, Keynsham, Somerset, England Registration district Keynsham Sub registration district Keynsham ED, Institution or Vessel 3 Neighbors Piece 1945 Folio 37 Household Members (Name) Age Relationship Henry Bachelor 36 Head Sarah Bachelor 33 Wife
Deaths Sep 1895 (>99%) Batchelor Sarah 43 Keynsham 5c 353
Apologies if any of this has been posted before.
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5 Sep 2024 18:09 |
The 2019 entry says Bingham not Ringham. As there are several males in that list you should be clear as to which Bingham/Ringham you are referring to.
Most library services have free access to Ancestry and sometimes and/or FMP
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5 Sep 2024 17:35 |
many thanks folks, sorry about delay. Batchelor was what Ada called her maiden name, but not true it was Ringham, also from Barton Regis work house any records of Mr. Ringham my great grandfather? <3
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John
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13 Jul 2021 11:29 |
Thank you very much indeed. Thanks. <3 <3
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John
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18 Jan 2020 21:47 |
Thank you all.
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9 Mar 2019 13:49 |
ErikaH That's great, thank you very much, our Ada is a bit of a surprise.
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ErikaH
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9 Mar 2019 10:54 |
Ada's mother
1861
Name: Emma Bingham [Emma Ringham] Age: 8 Estimated birth year: 1853 Relation: Daughter Father's name: Henry Bingham Mother's name: Caroline Bingham Gender: Female Where born: Bath, Somerset, England Civil Parish: Lyncombe and Widcombe Ecclesiastical parish: Lyncombe and Widcombe Town: Bath County/Island: Somerset Country: England
Registration district: Bath Sub-registration district: Lyncombe ED, institution, or vessel: 10 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 110 Piece: 1689 Folio: 85 Page Number: 18 Household Members: Name Age Henry Bingham 18 Caroline Bingham 40 William Bingham 11 Sarah Bingham 9 Emma Bingham 8 Henry Bingham 5 Alfred Bingham 2 Elizabeth Bingham 1/12
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ErikaH
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9 Mar 2019 10:52 |
Rose Ringham's tree on Ancestry
irth 15 Mar 1879 • Bristol, Gloucestershire 5 Sources 1879
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Birth of Half-Sister Ada Ringham(1883–) 10 Sep 1883 • Bristol, Gloucestershire 1883
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Baptism 11 May 1890 • Eastville, St Thomas, Gloucestershire, England 1 Source 1890
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Residence 1891 • Stapleton, Gloucestershire, England Relation to Head: Daughter; Inmate
1 Source 1891
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Marriage April 1903 • Bristol, Gloucestershire 1 Source 1903
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Birth of Son Anthony Gould(1904–1985) 4 Mar 1904 • Weston Super Mare, Somerset 1904
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Marriage 1904 • Bristol, Gloucestershire Joseph Gould (1874–1950)
1 Source 1904
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Birth of Daughter Gwendoline Vera Gould(1906–1986) 5 Mar 1906 • Weston super Mare, Somerset, England 1906
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Birth of Daughter Clodagh Gould(1911–1998) 16 Jan 1911 • Weston Super Mare, Somerset 1911
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Residence 02 Apr 1911 • Weston super Mare, Somerset, England Marital Status: Married; Relation to Head of House: Wife
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Birth of Daughter Josephine Gould(1914–1985) 21 May 1914 • Weston-super-Mare, Somerset, England 1914
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Residence 1939 • Gloucestershire, England Marital Status: Married
1 Source 1939
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Death of Half-Sister Emma Emily Ringham(1875–1949) Dec 1949 • Bristol, Gloucestershire, England 1949
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Death of Husband Joseph Gould(1874–1950) 7 Feb 1950 • Bristol, Gloucestershire, England 1950
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Death 30 Sep 1966 • Bristol, Gloucestershire, England 2 Sources
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ErikaH
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9 Mar 2019 10:34 |
Birth record shows that Ada was illegitimate
You will probably never be able to identify her father
Why did you think her maiden name was Batchelor?
Surely you checked your mother's birth details?
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8 Mar 2019 23:50 |
Could be Ringham though couldn't it.
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8 Mar 2019 23:30 |
ArgyllGran Yes you got her.
Ada Brown, MN Batchelor was my grandmother, married to Wallace Brown [not Wilfred], living at Martin Street, Bristol
Ada had three siblings Emily 1879, Rose 1880 and Alf 1881, all in Bristol , but their parents are a mystery at moment.
I don't think she or they were from Portsmouth, but from Bristol.
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8 Mar 2019 19:22 |
Ada Brown in the 1911 England Census Name: Ada Brown Age in 1911: 26 Estimated birth year: abt 1885 Relation to Head: Wife Gender: Female Birth Place: Bristol, Gloucestershire Civil Parish: Bristol County/Island: Gloucestershire Country: England Street address: 70 Martin Street, St Pauls, Bristol Marital status: Married Years Married: 9 Estimated Marriage Year: 1902 Registration district: Bristol Registration District Number: 319 Sub-registration district: Bristol Central ED, institution, or vessel: 8 Household schedule number: 391 Piece: 14869 Household Members: Name Age Wallace Brown 27 Ada Brown 26 Edith Brown 8 Wallace Brown 6 Willfred Brown 4
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Ada Ringham in the 1891 England Census Name: Ada Ringham Gender: Female Age: 7 Relationship: Daughter; Inmate (Inmate) Birth Year: 1884 Birth Place: Bristol, Gloucestershire, England Civil Parish: Stapleton Residence Place: Winterbourne, Stapleton, Gloucestershire, England Sub registration district: Stapleton ED, Institution or Vessel: Barton Regis Workhouse Neighbors: Piece: 1993 Folio: 97
Emma Ringham 36 Rose Ringham 12 Ada Ringham 7
Ada Ringham in the Bristol, England, Select Church of England Parish Registers, 1720-1933 Name: Ada Ringham Gender: Female Baptism Date: 10 Sep 1883 Baptism Place: Easton, St Mark, Gloucestershire, England Mother: Emma Ringham
RINGHAM, ADA - GRO Reference: 1883 S Quarter in BARTON REGIS Volume 06A Page 182
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8 Mar 2019 18:44 |
That Edith's birth/christening:
Edith Lydia Brown in the England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 Name: Edith Lydia Brown Gender: Female Birth Date: 3 Jun Baptism Date: 22 Jun 1902 Baptism Place: Bristol, Gloucester, England Father: Wallace Brown Mother: Ada Brown FHL Film Number: 1849447
another child:
Reginald Wilfred Brown in the Bristol, England, Select Church of England Parish Registers, 1720-1933 Name: Reginald Wilfred Brown Baptism Date: 3 Oct 1906 Baptism Place: Kingsdown, St Matthew, Gloucestershire, England Father: Wallace Brown Mother: Ada Brown
BUT mms Ringham:
BROWN, REGINALD WILFRID mms RINGHAM GRO Reference: 1906 D Quarter in BRISTOL Volume 06A Page 55
Marriages Dec 1901 (>99%) BROWN Wallace Bristol 6a 113 RINGHAM Edith Ada Bristol 6a 113
Did you perhaps mean Wallace, and not Wilfred, John?
If so, where did you find the surname Bachelor for Ada?
I don't see the birth of an Edith Ada Ringham, not the marriage of an Edith or Ada Bachelor to a Ringham (which could have been a possibility).
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