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For her age:

Henrietta Nixon
in the Web: Ireland, Census, 1901
Name: Henrietta Nixon
Gender: Female
Age: 37
Birth Year: abt 1864
Relation to Head: Wife
Residence Date: 31 Mar 1901
Townland/Street: Cara Street
District: Clones Urban
County: Monaghan
Household Members:
Name Age
John Nixon 35 - baker
Henrietta Nixon 37 - born Meath
Edward J Nixon 12


Henrietta Nixon
in the Web: Ireland, Census, 1911
Name: Henrietta Nixon
Gender: Female
Age: 45
Birth Year: abt 1866
Relation to Head: Wife
Residence Date: 2 Apr 1911
Townland/Street: Cara
District: Clones Urban
County: Monaghan
Household Members:
Name Age
John Nixon 45
Henrietta Nixon 45 - born Meath
Edward Nixon 22
John Gibson 76 - boarder
David Lemon 28 - boarder
William Shinner 34 - boarder

Thanks AG. For some reason I had her born about 1868/9 - no idea why. I'll try again.

I don't see her birth / baptism anywhere.

No help with Henrietta - but son Edward's birth:

SR District/Reg Area - Omagh
Birth of EDWARD NIXON in 1888
Name EDWARD NIXON
Date of Birth 1888
Group Registration ID 11008259
SR District/Reg Area Omagh

Edward John Nixon, 4th July 1888.
Parents John Nixon, baker, and Henrietta Nixon, formerly Brock

Thanks AG, I can't find her birth or baptism anywhere, even with the new birth date. Strange.

Just looked back over the whole of this thread and Austin had posted the 1871 census entry, which states that Henrietta was born in Meath. Maybe this is why we can't find her.

Civil registration for Irish births didn't start until 1864.

James and Margaret married in 1858 so I would assume they had children born before 1864.

Although useful, the ages on census records cannot be taken as accurate. It is possible that Henrietta was born before official registration began.

On the 1871 census Henrietta is recorded as age 9. Later census make her a little younger- It was quite common for women to shave a few years of their age as they got older.
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Going by the ages of the other children I think it's likely Henrietta was born before 1864:

Henrietta Brock
Lucy Jane Brock 1864
Anne Isabella Brock 1866
James Irvine Brock 1868
Mary Elizabeth Brock 1871
Sidney Herbert Brock 1871
Margaret Catherine Brock 1873

I think you're right AQ ... I don't know where I got that 1869 date from. If Henrietta was born say 1861 do you think it's likely there was another child before her. It seems a while to go after the marriage before the first child. Maybe one that died??

It's been bugging me why two of the children of James Brock and Margaret Jane Graham were born in Worcestershire and all the others were born in Ireland.
Henrietta in 1861 in Meath
Lucy Jane 1864 in Galway
Anna Isabella 1866 in Irvinestown, Fermanagh
James Irving 1868 in Kildare
Mary Elizabeth 1871 in Eckington, Worcester
Sidney Herbert 1871 in Eckington, Worcester
Margaret Catherine 1873 in Irvinestown, Fermanagh

It bugged me so much that I wondered if they were actually children of James and Margaret Jane, so I sent for their birth certificates. Yes, they are children of James and Margaret Jane and they are twins - Mary Elizabeth born at 4.15 a.m. and Sidney Herbert born at 4.30 a.m. I still don't know why they were born in England and all the others in Ireland, but at least I know they belong.

Just thought I'd share this with you helpful people.

I think they moved to Eckington for work reasons ( EDIT: as was already suggested on page 1) , and probably intended staying there.

However, Margaret Jane and James had separated before 1877 when he married Ellen Hanna and was done for bigamy.

I imagine Margaret Jane had moved back to Ireland when they separated, before Margaret Catherine's birth.

ADDED:

In fact, looking back through this thread, I see that you said that on Margaret C's birth cert it says James was living in Liverpool, and Margaret in Irvinestown.

Thanks AG ... he was definitely quite a lad.

I'm adding to this post because I don't want to have to go through it all again.

I've been looking at James Brock snr., married to Isabella Embleton and their children. The first child I found was Mary Brock and on familysearch the birth was given as 22 Dec 1823 in Kirkoswald, Ayrshire, parents James Brock and Isabella Embleton.
The second child was Ann Isabella and her date of birth was given as 21 Mar 1824.

How can this be?

It might wise to check to original images on Scotlandspeople:

BROCK ANN ISOBELLA
Parents: JAMES BROCK/ISABELLA EMBLETON
date: 21/03/1824
Kirkoswald


BROCK HANAH
Parents: JAMES BROCK/ISABELLA EMBLETON
Date: 21/03/1824
Kirkoswald


BROCK MARY
Parents: JAMES BROCK/ISABELLE EMBLETON
Date: 22/12/1823
Kirkoswald
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Name: Frederick Edward Brock
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 15 Sep 1818
Baptism Date: 6 Jun 1819
Baptism Place: Ancroft,Northumberland,England
Father: James Brock
Mother: Isabella
FHL Film Number: 252562

Perhaps one date is a mistranscription.

As AQ says - best to look at the original.

Bear in mind that these are church records, and so some dates transcribed may be christening dates rather than actual birth dates, even if the transcription says birth date.

Looking at the census info, I think it's likely that Mary was born before Dec 1823:

1851:
Name: Mary Herod
Age: 28
Estimated birth year: abt 1823
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Scotland
Civil Parish: Rufford
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1861:
Name: Mary Herod
Age: 39
Estimated birth year: 1822
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: Samuel Herod
Gender: Female
Where born: Scotland
Civil Parish: Rufford
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1871:
Name: Mary Herod
Age: 51
Estimated birth year: abt 1820
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: Samuel Herod
Gender: Female
Where born: Scotland
Civil Parish: Rufford
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1881:
Name: Mary Herrod
[Mary Herod]
Age: 60
Estimated birth year: abt 1821
Relationship to Head: Wife
Spouse: Samuel Herrod
Gender: Female
Where born: Scotland
Civil Parish: Rufford
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1891:
Name: Mary Herod
Gender: Female
Age: 70
Relationship: Wife
Birth Year: 1821
Spouse: Samuel Herod
Child: Mary Herod
Birth Place: Ayrshire, Scotland
Civil Parish: Rufford
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1901:
Name: Mary Herod
Age: 79
Estimated birth year: abt 1822
Relation to Head: Wife
Gender: Female
Spouse: Samuel Herod
Birth Place: Scotland
Civil Parish: Rufford
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Death:
Name: Mary Herod
Estimated birth year: abt 1821
Registration Year: 1911
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Age at Death: 90
Registration district: Southwell
Inferred County: Nottinghamshire
Volume: 7b Page: 263

Interesting … I splashed out and bought credits on ScotlandsPeople. The entry for Mary Brock says:

Mary daughter to James Brock and Isabella Embleton his wife born at High Belchristen?? 22 Dec 1823.

It turns out that Hanah and Ann Isabella are twins and the entry for them is dated 3 May 1824 and says:

Hanah and Anna Isabella twin daughters to James and Isabella Embleton his wife born at High Belchristen 21 March and certified this day.

This must be the shortest full term pregnancy ever!!!

I honestly don't know where to go from here.

Does it give a date for Mary's Christening? It would be unusual for the date of entry to be the same as the birth date.

As you say, as birth dates they are not possible. I still suspect that it is Mary's entry that is recorded wrongly.

It has definitely been written wrongly in the parish record.

It was bugging me, so I had a look myself .

The christening date was 16 March 1823, so the birth must have been Dec 1822 (or even some earlier year - going by all the census records, I would guess 1821).

It's a mistake by whoever wrote the record.

We'll never know her actual DOB for sure.

Good work AG- I suspected as much. More than a year between Mary's christening and Hanah's birth- so not a miracle birth!

I tend to agree with you AQ and AG that it's Mary's entry that is wrongly recorded. I think we can safely assume she was born in 1821 or 1822. Phew, glad it wasn't a miracle birth!

Thanks.