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I am trying to find more info on Eileen Mary Newberry she was born in New Zealand to Mathew Barry Newberry and Ellen May Barry all the family returned to England in 1927 she married Ernest K T Williams in 1947 Bournmouth Hampshire I have no info on Ernest and their deaths can anyone help

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Matthew Newberry on the 1939 Register

1939 Register Transcription

Newberry Household (6 People) 49 Kings Avenue , Christchurch M.B., Hampshire, England
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First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule Sub Number
Matthew Newberry 15 Jul 1895 Male Musician Bandmaster Union Castle Line Married 383 1
Ellen M Newberry 01 Aug 1895 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 383 2
Sorry, this record is officially closed. Check if you can open a closed record.
Joan E Breeze (Newberry) 06 Nov 1921 Female Clerk Coal Merchant Single 383 4
John B Newberry 02 Nov 1925 Male At School Single 383 5
Josephine M Gundy (Newberry) 22 Jan 1927 Female At School Single 383 6

This looks like the Newberry Family on the 1939 Register .......... I assume the hidden record is Eileen Mary

Newberry Household (6 People) 49 Kings Avenue , Christchurch M.B., Hampshire, England

Matthew Newberry 15 Jul 1895 Musician Bandmaster Union Castle Line
Ellen M Newberry 01 Aug 1895 Unpaid Domestic Duties
Sorry, this record is officially closed. Check if you can open a closed record.
Joan E Breeze (Newberry) 06 Nov 1921 Clerk Coal Merchant
John B Newberry 02 Nov 1925 At School
Josephine M Gundy (Newberry) 22 Jan 1927 At School



This is Eileen's marriage registration ...... you will probably have to buy the certificate to discover the name of Ernest's father, occupation ec

Marriages Sep 1947 (>99%)

Newberry Eileen M Williams Bournemouth 6b 534
Williams Ernest K T Newberry Bournemouth 6b 534

snap safc!!

This is the only Ernest K T Williams birth registration that I could find ..... os he was quite a bit older than she was

Births Sep 1907 (>99%)
Williams Ernest Kenneth T Newport, M. 11a 230a

From GRO Index, we can see his full name and mother's maiden name .......

WILLIAMS, ERNEST KENNETH TRIVITT mmn HOUSE
GRO Reference: 1907 S Quarter in NEWPORT MON Volume 11A Page 230 Occasional Copy: A


Occasional Cop A indicates that a correction was made to the original registration, but it is not a re-registration of the birth.

You might have to buy the certificate to discover what the change was.

a sibling???

WILLIAMS, MABEL WINIFRED mmn HOUSE
GRO Reference: 1910 J Quarter in NEWPORT MON Volume 11A Page 279

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Record Transcription:
1911 Census For England & Wales

65 Stow Hill Newport, Newport, Monmouthshire, Wales

Ernest Kenneth Trivett Williams's Household Members
Members that resided in the household at the time of the census.
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Joseph Ernest Williams Head Married Male 28 1883 Coal Trimmer Bassaleg Monmouthshire
Margaret Ellen Williams Wife Married Female 28 1883 - Weston Super Mare Comerset
Ernest Kenneth Trivett Williams Son - Male 3 1908 - -
Mabel Winifred Williams Daughter - Female 0 1911 -

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you need the 1947 marriage to be sure

Interesting ..... I just found that census on FMP, but I can't find it on ancestry!!

Here's the marriage of Ernest's parents ............

Marriages Dec 1906 (>99%)

House Margaret Ellen Newport M 11a 516
Williams Joseph Ernest Newport M 11a 516

Well, I have absolutely no idea why the only way I could find the 1911 Census on Ancestry was to use surname Will* with birth year 1883 (exact), living in Newport. There are some mis-transcriptions, but Joseph Ernest Williams is correct!

1911 Census

Name: Joseph Ernest Williams
Age in 1911: 28
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1883
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Bassaleg, Monmouthshire, Wales
Civil Parish: Newport
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County/Island: Monmouthshire
Country: Wales
Street address: 65 Stow Hill Newport Mon
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Coal Drummer
Registration district: Newport
Registration District Number: 587
Sub-registration district: Newport
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Household schedule number: 24
Piece: 31971

Joseph Ernest Williams 28
Margerat Ellen Williams 28
Ernest Henneth Trevett Williams 3
Mabel Winefred Williams 11/12

But as I said originally, and as safc said later ................. you need to buy the marriage certificate to be sure.

Thank you for your info a great help all seems to be correct. I have tried looking on Ancestry for Eileen Mary and Ernest for their death records but have not been able to find any are there other ways to find this out ?

Are you certain that they remained in the UK?

Two sons from the marriage. You could try looking for them

First name(s) Ernest Kenneth
Last name Williams
Event year 1921
Birth year 1907
Birth place Newport
Birth county/country Monmouthshire
Birth date 16 Jun 1907
Discharge number R 131360
Card type CR1
Archive The National Archives
Series BT349
Date range 1921-1941
Record set Britain, Merchant Seamen, 1918-1941

As Ellen and Ernest are open records then their deaths must have been picked and would be uk as foreign deaths aren't picked up

Know this from my brother who died in Spain in 2001. He is still a closed record
Our elder sister died in 2002 in the uk and she is an open record

Maybe someone has submitted the record

Mathew Barry Newberry
1895–1967

BIRTH 15/071895 • Bury Lancashire England
DEATH 00/00/1967 • Melbourne Victoria Australia
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Matthew Newberry
Gender: Male
Age: 56
Birth Date: abt 1895
Departure Date: 5 Sep 1951
Port of Departure: London, England
Destination Port: Melbourne, Australia
Ship Name: Himalaya
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Shipping line: P and O
Master: E R Bodley D S C
Home address 120 camberwell road se5
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Name: Mrs Ellen M Newberry
Gender: Female
Age: 57
Birth Date: abt 1896
Departure Date: 20 Mar 1953
Port of Departure: London, England
Destination Port: Auckland, New Zealand
Ship Name: Rangitata
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Shipping line: The New Zeland Shipping Company, Limited
Official Number: 149564
Master: B A Burton

On her own, home address 11 Rutland Road ,Bournemouth ,Hants



Name: Ellen May Newberry
Death Date: 1961
Registration Place: Auckland, New Zealand
Folio Number: 1 1514

Two possible sons born Newport Monmouthshire after 1947 to Eileen m and Ernest

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