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Lilian Irene Ellam

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Andrew

Andrew Report 14 Sep 2018 19:57

I wonder if anyone can find some information on Lilian Irene Ellam for me? I believe she was born on 22nd Feb 1905 according to her death certificate and her daughter knows she was born in Colchester.
I have found a Lilian Maud I Ellam birth at that time in Colchester but after that no records until she marries John Kenyon in Lancashire in 1935. Father is a Edward George Ellam deceased.
She had a son in 1927/28 called Sydney George Ellam who died in 1939 in Atherton Lancashire, he was disabled and lived in a home for a few years before he drowned in 1939. My friend believe she came to Lancashire when she was 25 so about 1930. Any help would be appreciated, my friend is 8-0 and would love to know more about her mother and if she had family as she never talked about them..
Thank you Gail

safc

safc Report 14 Sep 2018 20:43


Lilian I Kenyon on the 1939 Register

1939 Register Transcription

Kenyon Household (4 People) 2 Banks Houses Hindley Green , Hindley U.D., Lancashire, England
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First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule Sub Number
Lilian I Kenyon 22 Feb 1905 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 189 2
John Kenyon 28 May 1909 Male Compressed Air Driller Coal Mine Below Heavy Worker Married 189 1
John J Kenyon 21 May 1935 Male Under School Age Single 189 3
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safc

safc Report 14 Sep 2018 20:50

Births Mar 1905 (>99%)
Ellam Lilian Maud I Colchester 4a 832

malyon

malyon Report 14 Sep 2018 20:50

this must be lillian


Lilian Maud I Ellam
England and Wales Birth Registration Index, 1837-2008

birth registration: 1905 Colchester, Essex, England

Andrew

Andrew Report 14 Sep 2018 21:02

Yes I do believe this is her birth, I will see about sending for the birth certificate. can't find her on the 1911 census or her father. i suppose that the name could be misspelled ?
thanks
Gail

malyon

malyon Report 14 Sep 2018 21:12

could this be a relative of lillian


Deaths Jun 1902 (>99%)
Ellam Edward 49 Colchester 4a 357

safc

safc Report 14 Sep 2018 21:13

colchester is a army town

maybe edward was in the army ????
and they moved abroad

malyon

malyon Report 14 Sep 2018 21:13

could this be a death of edward

Deaths Jun 1932 (>99%)
Ellam Edward 73 Linton 3b 522

malyon

malyon Report 14 Sep 2018 21:23

there are no other births in colchester loads of births in lancasher

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 14 Sep 2018 21:29

Could this possibly be your Lilian Irene if Ellam was mistaken for Allen? She seems to be the daughter of Emily who is a housekeeper for Harry Davy. If he filled in the census form perhaps he didn't realize that her name was Ellam and not Allen?


Lilian Irene Allen
in the 1911 England Census
Name:
Lilian Irene Allen
Age in 1911:
6
Estimated Birth Year:
abt 1905
Relation to Head:
Daughter
Gender:
Female
Birth Place:
Colchester, Essex
Civil Parish:
Colchester

Address:
2 Grays Cottages, East Street, Colchester, Essex

Household Members:
Harry Davey 58
Emily Allen 50 , born Marwood, Devonshire
Lilian Irene Allen 6

malyon

malyon Report 14 Sep 2018 21:29

if this is lillian's birth then her mother was unmarried

ELLAM, LILIAN MAUD IRENE - Order
GRO Reference: 1905 M Quarter in COLCHESTER Volume 04A Page 832

Andrew

Andrew Report 14 Sep 2018 21:33

I am beginning to wonder if there was an army connection and they moved about .

The Lillian could of just said she had come to Lancashire in 1929 she may be wanting to cover her tracks being an unmarried mother.
thanks all

safc

safc Report 14 Sep 2018 21:34

Record Transcription:
1911 Census For England & Wales

2 Gray's Cottages East St Colchester Essex, Colchester, Essex, England

Lillian Irene Allen's Household Members
Members that resided in the household at the time of the census.
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Harry Davey Head Single Male 58 1853 Hawker Pedlar Colchester Essex
Emily Davey Housekeeper Widow Female 50 1861 Housekeeper Muddiford Devon Marwood
Lillian Irene Allen Daughter - Female 6 1905 School Colchester Essex

emily davey should read emily allen

Andrew

Andrew Report 14 Sep 2018 21:38

I have seen the name Davey on something today with a Lilian Irene, it may have been the 1911 census but i couldn't look at it fully as I don't have a subscription.
i will send for the birth cert and try and look at the 1911.

Thanks

Andrew

Andrew Report 14 Sep 2018 21:46

Thank you all, my friend will be please that we are maybe getting somewhere, she says she would love to know about her mum before she dies herself!
As it was always a mystery

malyon

malyon Report 14 Sep 2018 21:52

seems strange that there is only one birth 1905 till 1961 in colchester and only one death 1902 till 1955 could they be related

Andrew

Andrew Report 14 Sep 2018 22:03

Malyon, I find it strange too sure it will all come out in the end

Alison

Alison Report 14 Sep 2018 22:23

can you tell me when she died? or when her husband John died? Are you on Ancestry? I have been looking there for you and will continue to look if you like
Alison

malyon

malyon Report 14 Sep 2018 22:24

could edward who died in 1902 be lililians grandfather her mother was not married when she was born so no fathers name what was lillian's mother's christian name

safc

safc Report 14 Sep 2018 22:32


First name(s) Lilian Irene
Last name Kenyon
Gender Female
Birth day 22
Birth month 2
Birth year 1905
Age -
Death quarter 3
Death year 1987
District Leigh
Register number 887
County Lancashire
Volume 39
Page 1887
Country England
Record set England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Civil Deaths & Burials
Collections from Great Britain, England