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JAMES FAMILY MONTREAL CANADA

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ian

ian Report 4 Sep 2018 10:33

Looking for any info on the following 2 brothers, both in the Canadian Navy WWII
sons of Frank James b 1891 England died Canada May 1943
John (Jack) b Montreal 1920 NOT LIVING

Alfred Roy b Montreal b 1922/23 NOT LIVING

Seems to be no records of B, M OR D

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 4 Sep 2018 11:05

Vital Records (B.M & D) in Canada have different closure rules than the UK. Each State/Province has different criteria. They are not held by the Federal authorities.

They are probably too recent to be released for an internet search.

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 4 Sep 2018 11:18

Is this relevant?

John James
in the Quebec, Canada, Vital and Church Records (Drouin Collection), 1621-1968

Name: John James
Event Type: Baptême (Baptism)
Baptism Date: 1 March 1921
Baptism Place: Montréal, Québec (Quebec)
Place of Worship or Institution: Anglican Saint Mark

Image says,
John, son of Frank James, Blacksmith of the city of Montreal & of Elsie Fist his wifewas born on the twenty third of November in the year of our Lord (corrected from 1921 to) 1920
Can’t make all the signatures, but they could be Frank James, Annie W (something?) Elsie Miller

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 4 Sep 2018 11:19

Baptism of John- image is on Ancestry- although difficult to read:

Name: John James
Event Type: Baptême (Baptism)
Baptism Date: 9th Mar 1921
Baptism Place: Montréal, Québec (Quebec)
Place of Worship or Institution: Anglican Saint Mark
Son of Frank James, blacksmith and Elsie Fish his wife.
Born on 23rd November 1920

EDIT- sorry det, didn't refresh- think his birth is 1920

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 4 Sep 2018 11:23

Yes - it looks as if you are correct. Will edit yob to 1920

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 4 Sep 2018 11:30

Alfred Roy Baptism:

Name: Alfred Roy James
Religion: Anglican
Event Type: Baptême (Baptism)
Baptism Date: 13th ? 1923
Baptism Place: Montréal, Québec (Quebec)
Place of Worship or Institution: Anglican Saint Augustin
Son of Frank James of Montreal and his wife Elsie
Born ? (12th or Twentieth) May

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 4 Sep 2018 11:31

Could be a coincidence -
Canada, Voters Lists, 1935-1980

Name: John James
Occupation: Contremaltre (google translate says Foreman)
Year: 1972
Location: Mercier, Québec, Canada
Electoral District: Mercier

With Mrs Micheline James


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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 4 Sep 2018 11:34

That Alfred Roy James bap just isn't coming up :-|

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 4 Sep 2018 11:37


Frank James
in the 1921 Census of Canada
Name:
Frank James
Gender:
Male
Marital Status:
Married
Age:
29
Birth Year:
abt 1892
Birth Place:
England
Relation to Head of House:
Chef (Head)
Spouse's Name:
Elise James
Father Birth Place:
England
Mother Birth Place:
England
Year of Immigration:
1913
Racial or Tribal Origin:
Anglaise (English)
Province or Territory:
Quebec
District:
Montreal (Hochelaga)
District Number:
167
Sub-District:
Hochelaga Ward, Montreal
Sub-District Number:
17
Street or Township:
625 Joliette
Occupation:
Forgeron
Income:
1050

Household Members:
Frank James 29
Elise James 30
Jack James 6/12

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 4 Sep 2018 11:38

Try searching by church: Anglican Saint Augustin- with just surname James

Marriage of parents:
Name: Frank James (Blacksmith of the city of Montreal, son of the late Isaac James and Annie Price his wife)
Event Type: Mariage (Marriage)
Marriage Date: 12th May 1920
Marriage Place: Montréal, Québec (Quebec)
Place of Worship or Institution: Anglican Saint Matthew
Spouse: Elsie Fish (spinster of the same place, daughter of the late William Henry Fish and Sarah Oakes his wife)

Dea

Dea Report 4 Sep 2018 11:41

The above family on 1921 census although it is VERY difficult to read:

http://central.bac-lac.gc.ca/.item/?app=Census1921&op=img&id=e003073949

Young John / Jack was 6 months old.

Dea x

ian

ian Report 4 Sep 2018 11:43

Thanks DetEcTive & Austinq, can you please see if you can find 2 sisters, Lillian 1928 Marguerite Ann 1930 same parents

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 4 Sep 2018 11:47

Found Alfred's bap. Thanks for that. Don't think that I can add anymore to the transcription other than the bap took place on a day ending with teenth!

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 4 Sep 2018 11:47

Lillian's Baptism:

Name: Lillian James
Religion: Anglican
Event Type: Baptême (Baptism)
Baptism Date: 23rd March 1928
Baptism Place: Montréal, Québec (Quebec)
Place of Worship or Institution: Anglican Institutions
Child of Frank James and Elsie Fish his wife.
Born on the 4th day of January 1928.
In the presence of Elsie James & Elizabeth Cowdry

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 4 Sep 2018 11:50

The original of Alfred Roy's baptism says born 12 May 1923 and baptized 13 July 1923.

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 4 Sep 2018 11:53

Marguerite's Baptism

Name: Marguerite Ann James
Religion: Anglican
Event Type: Baptême (Baptism)
Baptism Date: 30th November 1930
Baptism Place: Montréal, Québec (Quebec)
Place of Worship or Institution: Anglican Saint Luke
Daughter of Frank James of 5501 ninth Avenue, Rosemount, Montreal Province of Quebec and Elsie Fish his wife.
Born at the above stated address on 21st July 1930
Witnesses: Elsie James, Frank James & Annie Whelan

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 4 Sep 2018 11:53

Found Lilians - back in a mo
Added - didn't spot that one AustinQ!

Over to you -I'm being nagged :-0

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 4 Sep 2018 11:59

oh no! What have you done? -or what haven't you done :-D

ian

ian Report 4 Sep 2018 12:02

Thanks all, a great help, census very hard to read, can just make it out, Ian

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 4 Sep 2018 12:39

Spent too long on the PC. What he really meant, it was his turn now. :-D