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27 Jul 2018 15:44 |
Hello I wonder if anyone can help me find information on a Thomas Henry Goddard who I found living with my grandmother in Nottingham according to the 1939 census. I believe he was born in Nottingham 1873 or poss 1874. I'd like to get census info which may shed light on his parents and any siblings. But more importantly any wife children and his death. Thank you Sue x
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27 Jul 2018 15:56 |
FOR REF 3 Byron Street , Nottingham C.B., Nottinghamshire, England Add to tree View original image Print First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule Sub Number Thomas Henry Goddard 23 Nov 1873 Male Builders Storekeeper Married 133 1 Alice Rennocks 09 Dec 1893 Female House Keeper Married 133 2 Florence Jackson (Reunocks) 17 Jul 1917 Female Cardboard Box Maker Single 133 3 Harold Goddard 17 May 1925 Male Errand Boy Single 133 4 Ernest Goddard 30 Apr 1928 Male School Single 133 5
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ArgyllGran
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27 Jul 2018 16:01 |
Birth:
GODDARD, THOMAS HENRY mms JOHNSON GRO Reference: 1873 D Quarter in NOTTINGHAM Volume 07B Page 280
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27 Jul 2018 16:02 |
THOMAS H Last name GODDARD Gender Male Birth day - Birth month - Birth year 1874 Age 75 Death quarter 3 Death year 1949 District Nottingham County Nottinghamshire Volume 3C Page 327 Country England Record set England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007
1901 ???
1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 26 Seymour St Nottingham, Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Birth place Occupation Thomas Henry Goddard Head Married Male 37 1874 Nottingham Warehous Clerk Transcription Mary Ann Goddard Wife Married Female 34 1877 Nottingham - Transcription Arthur Goddard Son - Male 9 1902 Nottingham
THOMAS HENRY Last name GODDARD Marriage quarter 4 Marriage year 1901 Registration month - MarriageFinderâ„¢ THOMAS HENRY GODDARD married one of these people Mary Ann Hopewell, Elizabeth Burton District Nottingham District number - County Nottinghamshire Country England Volume 7B Volume as transcribed 7B Page number 536
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27 Jul 2018 16:07 |
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Thomas Goddard in the 1881 England Census Name: Thomas Goddard Age: 7 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1874 Relationship to Head: Son Father: William Goddard Mother: Emma Goddard Gender: Male Where born: Nottinghamshire, England Civil Parish: Nottingham St Mary County/Island: Nottinghamshire Country: England Street address: 7 Alison Rise Occupation: Scholar Registration district: Nottingham Sub registration district: St Ann ED, institution, or vessel: 20 Neighbors: Piece: 3356 Folio: 61 Page Number: 21 Household Members: Name Age William Goddard 29 Emma Goddard 27 Thomas Goddard 7 Annie Goddard 5 Flora Goddard 3 Arthur Goddard 1
GODDARD, ARTHUR mms JOHNSON GRO Reference: 1879 D Quarter in NOTTINGHAM Volume 07B Page 298
GODDARD, FLORENCE mms JOHNSON r GRO Reference: 1877 S Quarter in NOTTINGHAM Volume 07B Page 303
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27 Jul 2018 16:09 |
GODDARD, THOMAS HENRY JOHNSON Order GRO Reference: 1873 D Quarter in NOTTINGHAM Volume 07B Page 280
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27 Jul 2018 16:16 |
?????? WILLIAM Last name GODDARD Marriage quarter 3 Marriage year 1873 Registration month - MarriageFinderâ„¢ WILLIAM GODDARD married one of these people Mary Ann Redgaed, Georgeani Johnson ---------- District Nottingham District number - County Nottinghamshire Country England Volume 7B Volume as transcribed 7B Page number 397 Record set England & Wales Marriages 1837-2005
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1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Ebenezer Square, Snenton, Radford, Nottinghamshire, England
Learn more Print View image Add to tree Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Thomas Johnson Head Married Male 28 1833 Framework Knitter Silk Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England Transcription Jane Johnson Wife Married Female 28 1833 - Nottinghamshire, England Transcription Georgina Johnson Daughter - Female 7 1854 - Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England Transcription Charles H Johnson Son - Male 5 1856 - Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England
CANNOT SEE A MARRIAGE TO AN EMMA JOHNSON
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ArgyllGran
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27 Jul 2018 16:25 |
Later children:
GODDARD, GEORGE mms JOHNSON GRO Reference: 1882 M Quarter in NOTTINGHAM Volume 07B Page 344
GODDARD, WILLIAM HENRY mms JOHNSON GRO Reference: 1886 M Quarter in NOTTINGHAM Volume 07B Page 334
George Goddard in the 1891 England Census Name: George Goddard Gender: Male Age: 9 Birth Year: 1882 Birth Place: Nottinghamshire, England Civil Parish: St Mary Residence Place: Nottingham, St Mary, Nottinghamshire, England Sub registration district: Nottingham North East ED, Institution or Vessel: 20 Neighbors: Piece: 2696 Folio: 60 Household Members: Name Age William Goddard 39 Emma Goddard 37 Thomas Goddard 17 Florence Goddard 13 Arthur Goddard 11 George Goddard 9 William Goddard 5
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Maddie
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27 Jul 2018 16:27 |
First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule Sub Number Arthur Goddard 17 Mar 1902 Male Trolley Vehicle Driver Married 14 1 Ivy M Goddard 26 May 1907 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 14 2 Raymond Goddard 03 Jan 1929 Male At School Single 14 3 Sorry, this record is officially closed. Check if you can open a closed record. Sorry, this record is officially closed. Check if you can open a closed record.
GODDARD, ARTHUR HOPEWELL Order GRO Reference: 1902 J Quarter in NOTTINGHAM Volume 07B Page 360
Raymond Last name Goddard Birth year 1929 Birth quarter 1 Registration month - Mother's maiden name Button District Nottingham County Nottinghamshire Country England Volume 7B Page 521
RAYMOND Last name GODDARD Gender Male Birth day 3 Birth month 1 Birth year 1929 Age - Death quarter 2 Death year 2002 District Nottingham District number 6891F Register number F72A Entry number 237
ARTHUR Last name GODDARD Marriage quarter 3 Marriage year 1928 Registration month - MarriageFinderâ„¢ ARTHUR GODDARD married Ivy M Button Spouse's last name Button District Nottingham District number - County Nottinghamshire Country England Volume 7B Volume as transcribed 7B Page number 894
BUTTON, IVY MAY PARKER Order GRO Reference: 1907 S Quarter in BASFORD Volume 07B Page 277
Ivy May Button
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Name: Ivy May Button Birth Date: 26 May 1907 Birth Place: Basford, Notts Age: 8 Document Year: 1915 Relationship to Soldier: Child Form Title: Descriptive Report on Enlistment Number of Images: 5 Other Records: Family Members: Name Relation to Soldier Ernest Button Self (Head) Florence Clara Parker Spouse Ivy May Button Child
Name: Ernest Button Gender: Male Birth Date: abt 1883 Marriage Date: 15 Sep 1903 Marriage Place: Nottingham Age: 32 Document Year: 1915 Residence Place: 8 St Anns Valley, Nottingham Regimental Number: 51747 Regiment Name: North Staffordshire (Prince of Wales's) Regiment Form Title: Short Service Attestation Number of Images: 5 Other Records: Search for 'Ernest Button' in other WWI collections Family Members: Name Relation to Soldier Ernest Button Self (Head) Florence Clara Parker Spouse Ivy May Button Child
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Susan
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27 Jul 2018 16:32 |
Oh Wow! Thanks everyone. So much info is great. I'll get back to you when I get time to digest it all. Many thanks. Sue x
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ArgyllGran
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27 Jul 2018 16:33 |
Can this be Thomas only being christened as an adult, in 1911 ??
Thomas Henry Goddard in the England & Wales, Christening Index, 1530-1980 Name: Thomas Henry Goddard Gender: Male Christening Date: 2 Apr 1911 Christening Place: Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Map: View this parish Father: William Henry Goddard Mother: Emma Goddard
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ArgyllGran
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27 Jul 2018 16:37 |
Another child of Thomas Henry and Mary Ann:
GODDARD, HENRY ARCHIBALD mms HOPEWELL GRO Reference: 1903 D Quarter in NOTTINGHAM Volume 07B Page 370
Deaths Mar 1904 (>99%) GODDARD Henry Archibald 0 Nottingham 7b 198
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ArgyllGran
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27 Jul 2018 17:44 |
William's with Florence in 1911. He says he's been married for 37 years.
Still don't see any Goddard/Johnson marriage apart from the one posted by Maddie.
William Goddard in the 1911 England Census Name: William Goddard Age in 1911: 59 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1852 Relation to Head: Father Gender: Male Birth Place: Nottinghamshire, England Civil Parish: Nottingham County/Island: Nottinghamshire Country: England Street address: 49 Gordon Road Nottingham Marital Status: Married Occupation: Boot Maker Registration district: Nottingham Registration District Number: 430 Sub-registration district: Nottingham North East ED, institution, or vessel: 29 Piece: 20569 Household Members: Name Age Florence Gillespie 33 - widow William Goddard 59
Marriages Sep 1900 (>99%) Gillespie Thomas Irven Nottingham 7b 450 Goddard Florence Nottingham 7b 450
Deaths Sep 1907 (>99%) GILLESPIE Thomas Irving 31 Nottingham 7b 173
Ancestry suggests that this is William's marriage, but it can't be:
Marriages Dec 1871 (>99%) GODDARD William Basford 7b 196 Holmes Emma Basford 7b 196
There's no previous Johnson/Holmes marriage , and Emma would have been too young in any case.
There are possible Holmes and Johnson births - but no Georgiana or similar, apart from one in 1844:
Births Mar 1854 (>99%) Holmes Emma Basford 7b 127
Births Dec 1853 (>99%) JOHNSON Emma Basford 7b 114
But there's this:
Georgina Goddard in the 1911 England Census Name: Georgina Goddard Age in 1911: 58 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853 Relation to Head: Lodger Gender: Female Birth Place: Nottinghamshire, England Civil Parish: Nottingham County/Island: Nottinghamshire Country: England Street address: 12 Pym Street Nottingham Marital Status: Married Occupation: Lace Hand Registration district: Nottingham Registration District Number: 430 Sub-registration district: Nottingham North East ED, institution, or vessel: 33 Piece: 20573 Household Members: Name Age Rose Robinson 38 Edward Percy Robinson 14 George William Robinson 12 Constance Mary Agnes Robinson 10 Laura Robinson 9 Georgina Goddard 58
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ArgyllGran
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27 Jul 2018 17:47 |
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Georgina Goddard in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007 Name: Georgina Goddard Death Age: 76 Birth Date: abt 1853 Registration Date: Sep 1929 Registration district: Nottingham Inferred County: Nottinghamshire Volume: 7b Page: 285
I don't see a likely Nottinghamshire death for an Emma Goddard of the right age.
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Susan
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27 Jul 2018 21:27 |
Thank you both so much. You've helped me in the past and you have come out fighting this time too. Still trying to make sense of it all. Maybe tomorrow when I'm not so tired. Could you tell me what mms means please ? Also I understand the quarters when they are numbers but what does quarter D and quarter S etc. mean ? Maddie, the first message you sent refers to 3 Byron street with Alice and three others. What year is that please ? Is it a census or something ? Thanks again Sue x
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ArgyllGran
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27 Jul 2018 21:31 |
"mms" means "mother's maiden surname".
Quarter D means the quarter ending in December - ie - Oct, Nov, Dec. Quarter S = July, August, September.
The record Maddie posted showing 3 Byron Street is from the 1939 Register.
https://search.ancestry.co.uk/search/db.aspx?dbid=61596 About 1939 England and Wales Register
Historical Context
Initially taken due to the onset of war with the purpose of producing National Identity Cards, the register later came to be multi-functional, first as an aid in the use of ration books and later helping officials record the movement of the civilian population over the following decades and from 1948, as the basis for the National Health Service Register. The 1939 Register is an extremely important genealogical resource, not only for the rich detail and information recorded for each person and household, but also in helping to bridge a thirty-year gap in census data. The census taken in 1931 was destroyed during the Second World War and no census was carried out in 1941 due to the ongoing conflict. The register, as held by The National Archives, contains data only for England and Wales and does not include records from households in Scotland, Northern Ireland, the Channel Islands or the Isle of Man.
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Susan
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27 Jul 2018 22:02 |
Thanks Argyll gran. I thought that was the case but I just wanted to be sure.
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malyon
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27 Jul 2018 23:03 |
Thomas Goddard England and Wales Census, 1881 Name: Thomas Goddard Event Type: Census Event Date: 1881 Event Place: Gotham, Nottinghamshire, England Registration District: Basford Residence Note: East Street Gender: Male Age: 7 Marital Status (Original): Single Occupation: Scholar Relationship to Head of Household: Son Birth Year (Estimated): 1874 Birthplace: Gotham, Nottinghamshire, England Page Number: 24 Registration Number: RG11 Piece/Folio: 3339/55 Affiliate Record Type: Household Household Role Sex Age Birthplace John Goddard Head Male 36 Gotham, Nottinghamshire, England Mary Goddard Wife Female 32 Ruddington, Nottinghamshire, England William Goddard Son Male 9 Gotham, Nottinghamshire, England Thomas Goddard Son Male 7 Gotham, Nottinghamshire, England Mary A Goddard Daughter Female 4 Gotham, Nottinghamshire, England
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malyon
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27 Jul 2018 23:19 |
harold goddard in the 1939 reg mother alice rennocks
Births Mar 1894 (>99%) Pygott Alice Basford 7b 201
alice's marrige Marriages Sep 1916
Pygott Alice R_nnocks Nottingham 7b 583 Rennocks Arthur Pygott Nottingham 7b 583
Harold Goddard England and Wales Birth Registration Index Name Harold Goddard Event Type Birth Registration Registration Quarter Apr-May-Jun Registration Year 1925 Registration District Nottingham County Nottinghamshire Event Place Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England Mother's Maiden Name (not available before 1911 Q3) Pygott Volume 7B Page 604 Line Number 76
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malyon
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27 Jul 2018 23:22 |
ernest goddard in the 1939 reg
Ernest Goddard England and Wales Birth Registration Index Name Ernest Goddard Event Type Birth Registration Registration Quarter Apr-May-Jun Registration Year 1928 Registration District Nottingham County Nottinghamshire Event Place Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England Mother's Maiden Name (not available before 1911 Q3) Pyggott Volume 7B Page 589 Line Number 48
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