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Susan

Susan Report 31 Jul 2018 21:50

Thank you so much for all your help.

malyon

malyon Report 27 Jul 2018 23:22

ernest goddard in the 1939 reg

Ernest Goddard
England and Wales Birth Registration Index
Name Ernest Goddard
Event Type Birth Registration
Registration Quarter Apr-May-Jun
Registration Year 1928
Registration District Nottingham
County Nottinghamshire
Event Place Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England
Mother's Maiden Name (not available before 1911 Q3) Pyggott
Volume 7B
Page 589
Line Number 48

malyon

malyon Report 27 Jul 2018 23:19

harold goddard in the 1939 reg mother alice rennocks

Births Mar 1894 (>99%)
Pygott Alice Basford 7b 201

alice's marrige
Marriages Sep 1916

Pygott Alice R_nnocks Nottingham 7b 583

Rennocks Arthur Pygott Nottingham 7b 583


Harold Goddard
England and Wales Birth Registration Index
Name Harold Goddard
Event Type Birth Registration
Registration Quarter Apr-May-Jun
Registration Year 1925
Registration District Nottingham
County Nottinghamshire
Event Place Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England
Mother's Maiden Name (not available before 1911 Q3) Pygott
Volume 7B
Page 604
Line Number 76

malyon

malyon Report 27 Jul 2018 23:03

Thomas Goddard
England and Wales Census, 1881
Name: Thomas Goddard
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1881
Event Place: Gotham, Nottinghamshire, England
Registration District: Basford
Residence Note: East Street
Gender: Male
Age: 7
Marital Status (Original): Single
Occupation: Scholar
Relationship to Head of Household: Son
Birth Year (Estimated): 1874
Birthplace: Gotham, Nottinghamshire, England
Page Number: 24
Registration Number: RG11
Piece/Folio: 3339/55
Affiliate Record Type: Household
Household Role Sex Age Birthplace
John Goddard Head Male 36 Gotham, Nottinghamshire, England
Mary Goddard Wife Female 32 Ruddington, Nottinghamshire, England
William Goddard Son Male 9 Gotham, Nottinghamshire, England
Thomas Goddard Son Male 7 Gotham, Nottinghamshire, England
Mary A Goddard Daughter Female 4 Gotham, Nottinghamshire, England

Susan

Susan Report 27 Jul 2018 22:02

Thanks Argyll gran. I thought that was the case but I just wanted to be sure.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 27 Jul 2018 21:31

"mms" means "mother's maiden surname".

Quarter D means the quarter ending in December - ie - Oct, Nov, Dec.
Quarter S = July, August, September.

The record Maddie posted showing 3 Byron Street is from the 1939 Register.


https://search.ancestry.co.uk/search/db.aspx?dbid=61596
About 1939 England and Wales Register

Historical Context

Initially taken due to the onset of war with the purpose of producing National Identity Cards, the register later came to be multi-functional, first as an aid in the use of ration books and later helping officials record the movement of the civilian population over the following decades and from 1948, as the basis for the National Health Service Register. The 1939 Register is an extremely important genealogical resource, not only for the rich detail and information recorded for each person and household, but also in helping to bridge a thirty-year gap in census data. The census taken in 1931 was destroyed during the Second World War and no census was carried out in 1941 due to the ongoing conflict. The register, as held by The National Archives, contains data only for England and Wales and does not include records from households in Scotland, Northern Ireland, the Channel Islands or the Isle of Man.

Susan

Susan Report 27 Jul 2018 21:27

Thank you both so much. You've helped me in the past and you have come out fighting this time too. Still trying to make sense of it all. Maybe tomorrow when I'm not so tired. Could you tell me what mms means please ? Also I understand the quarters when they are numbers but what does quarter D and quarter S etc. mean ?
Maddie, the first message you sent refers to 3 Byron street with Alice and three others. What year is that please ? Is it a census or something ? Thanks again
Sue x

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 27 Jul 2018 17:47

???

Georgina Goddard
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: Georgina Goddard
Death Age: 76
Birth Date: abt 1853
Registration Date: Sep 1929
Registration district: Nottingham
Inferred County: Nottinghamshire
Volume: 7b
Page: 285


I don't see a likely Nottinghamshire death for an Emma Goddard of the right age.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 27 Jul 2018 17:44

William's with Florence in 1911. He says he's been married for 37 years.

Still don't see any Goddard/Johnson marriage apart from the one posted by Maddie.


William Goddard
in the 1911 England Census
Name: William Goddard
Age in 1911: 59
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1852
Relation to Head: Father
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Nottinghamshire, England
Civil Parish: Nottingham
County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Country: England
Street address: 49 Gordon Road Nottingham
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Boot Maker
Registration district: Nottingham
Registration District Number: 430
Sub-registration district: Nottingham North East
ED, institution, or vessel: 29
Piece: 20569
Household Members:
Name Age
Florence Gillespie 33 - widow
William Goddard 59


Marriages Sep 1900 (>99%)
Gillespie Thomas Irven Nottingham 7b 450
Goddard Florence Nottingham 7b 450


Deaths Sep 1907 (>99%)
GILLESPIE Thomas Irving 31 Nottingham 7b 173


Ancestry suggests that this is William's marriage, but it can't be:

Marriages Dec 1871 (>99%)
GODDARD William Basford 7b 196
Holmes Emma Basford 7b 196

There's no previous Johnson/Holmes marriage , and Emma would have been too young in any case.

There are possible Holmes and Johnson births - but no Georgiana or similar, apart from one in 1844:

Births Mar 1854 (>99%)
Holmes Emma Basford 7b 127

Births Dec 1853 (>99%)
JOHNSON Emma Basford 7b 114



But there's this:

Georgina Goddard
in the 1911 England Census
Name: Georgina Goddard
Age in 1911: 58
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853
Relation to Head: Lodger
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Nottinghamshire, England
Civil Parish: Nottingham
County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Country: England
Street address: 12 Pym Street Nottingham
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Lace Hand
Registration district: Nottingham
Registration District Number: 430
Sub-registration district: Nottingham North East
ED, institution, or vessel: 33
Piece: 20573
Household Members:
Name Age
Rose Robinson 38
Edward Percy Robinson 14
George William Robinson 12
Constance Mary Agnes Robinson 10
Laura Robinson 9
Georgina Goddard 58

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 27 Jul 2018 16:37

Another child of Thomas Henry and Mary Ann:

GODDARD, HENRY ARCHIBALD mms HOPEWELL
GRO Reference: 1903 D Quarter in NOTTINGHAM Volume 07B Page 370


Deaths Mar 1904 (>99%)
GODDARD Henry Archibald 0 Nottingham 7b 198

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 27 Jul 2018 16:33

Can this be Thomas only being christened as an adult, in 1911 ??

Thomas Henry Goddard
in the England & Wales, Christening Index, 1530-1980
Name: Thomas Henry Goddard
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 2 Apr 1911
Christening Place: Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England
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Father: William Henry Goddard
Mother: Emma Goddard

Susan

Susan Report 27 Jul 2018 16:32

Oh Wow! Thanks everyone.
So much info is great. I'll get back to you when I get time to digest it all. Many thanks.
Sue x

Maddie

Maddie Report 27 Jul 2018 16:27


First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule Sub Number
Arthur Goddard 17 Mar 1902 Male Trolley Vehicle Driver Married 14 1
Ivy M Goddard 26 May 1907 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 14 2
Raymond Goddard 03 Jan 1929 Male At School Single 14 3
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GODDARD, ARTHUR HOPEWELL Order
GRO Reference: 1902 J Quarter in NOTTINGHAM Volume 07B Page 360

Raymond
Last name Goddard
Birth year 1929
Birth quarter 1
Registration month -
Mother's maiden name Button
District Nottingham
County Nottinghamshire
Country England
Volume 7B
Page 521

RAYMOND
Last name GODDARD
Gender Male
Birth day 3
Birth month 1
Birth year 1929
Age -
Death quarter 2
Death year 2002
District Nottingham
District number 6891F
Register number F72A
Entry number 237

ARTHUR
Last name GODDARD
Marriage quarter 3
Marriage year 1928
Registration month -
MarriageFinderâ„¢ ARTHUR GODDARD married
Ivy M Button
Spouse's last name Button
District Nottingham
District number -
County Nottinghamshire
Country England
Volume 7B
Volume as transcribed 7B
Page number 894

BUTTON, IVY MAY PARKER Order
GRO Reference: 1907 S Quarter in BASFORD Volume 07B Page 277

Ivy May Button

in the British Army WWI Pension Records 1914-1920
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Name: Ivy May Button
Birth Date: 26 May 1907
Birth Place: Basford, Notts
Age: 8
Document Year: 1915
Relationship to Soldier: Child
Form Title: Descriptive Report on Enlistment
Number of Images: 5
Other Records:
Family Members:
Name Relation to Soldier
Ernest Button Self (Head)
Florence Clara Parker Spouse
Ivy May Button Child

Name: Ernest Button
Gender: Male
Birth Date: abt 1883
Marriage Date: 15 Sep 1903
Marriage Place: Nottingham
Age: 32
Document Year: 1915
Residence Place: 8 St Anns Valley, Nottingham
Regimental Number: 51747
Regiment Name: North Staffordshire (Prince of Wales's) Regiment
Form Title: Short Service Attestation
Number of Images: 5
Other Records: Search for 'Ernest Button' in other WWI collections
Family Members:
Name Relation to Soldier
Ernest Button Self (Head)
Florence Clara Parker Spouse
Ivy May Button Child

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 27 Jul 2018 16:25

Later children:

GODDARD, GEORGE mms JOHNSON
GRO Reference: 1882 M Quarter in NOTTINGHAM Volume 07B Page 344


GODDARD, WILLIAM HENRY mms JOHNSON
GRO Reference: 1886 M Quarter in NOTTINGHAM Volume 07B Page 334


George Goddard
in the 1891 England Census
Name: George Goddard
Gender: Male
Age: 9
Birth Year: 1882
Birth Place: Nottinghamshire, England
Civil Parish: St Mary
Residence Place: Nottingham, St Mary, Nottinghamshire, England
Sub registration district: Nottingham North East
ED, Institution or Vessel: 20
Neighbors:
Piece: 2696
Folio: 60
Household Members:
Name Age
William Goddard 39
Emma Goddard 37
Thomas Goddard 17
Florence Goddard 13
Arthur Goddard 11
George Goddard 9
William Goddard 5

Maddie

Maddie Report 27 Jul 2018 16:16

??????
WILLIAM
Last name GODDARD
Marriage quarter 3
Marriage year 1873
Registration month -
MarriageFinderâ„¢ WILLIAM GODDARD married one of these people
Mary Ann Redgaed, Georgeani Johnson ----------
District Nottingham
District number -
County Nottinghamshire
Country England
Volume 7B
Volume as transcribed 7B
Page number 397
Record set England & Wales Marriages 1837-2005

1861

1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Ebenezer Square, Snenton, Radford, Nottinghamshire, England

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First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Thomas Johnson Head Married Male 28 1833 Framework Knitter Silk Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England
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Jane Johnson Wife Married Female 28 1833 - Nottinghamshire, England
Transcription
Georgina Johnson Daughter - Female 7 1854 - Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England
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Charles H Johnson Son - Male 5 1856 - Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England


CANNOT SEE A MARRIAGE TO AN EMMA JOHNSON

Maddie

Maddie Report 27 Jul 2018 16:09

GODDARD, THOMAS HENRY JOHNSON Order
GRO Reference: 1873 D Quarter in NOTTINGHAM Volume 07B Page 280

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 27 Jul 2018 16:07

???

Thomas Goddard
in the 1881 England Census
Name: Thomas Goddard
Age: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1874
Relationship to Head: Son
Father: William Goddard
Mother: Emma Goddard
Gender: Male
Where born: Nottinghamshire, England
Civil Parish: Nottingham St Mary
County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Country: England
Street address: 7 Alison Rise
Occupation: Scholar
Registration district: Nottingham
Sub registration district: St Ann
ED, institution, or vessel: 20
Neighbors:
Piece: 3356
Folio: 61
Page Number: 21
Household Members:
Name Age
William Goddard 29
Emma Goddard 27
Thomas Goddard 7
Annie Goddard 5
Flora Goddard 3
Arthur Goddard 1


GODDARD, ARTHUR mms JOHNSON
GRO Reference: 1879 D Quarter in NOTTINGHAM Volume 07B Page 298

GODDARD, FLORENCE mms JOHNSON r
GRO Reference: 1877 S Quarter in NOTTINGHAM Volume 07B Page 303

Maddie

Maddie Report 27 Jul 2018 16:02

THOMAS H
Last name GODDARD
Gender Male
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year 1874
Age 75
Death quarter 3
Death year 1949
District Nottingham
County Nottinghamshire
Volume 3C
Page 327
Country England
Record set England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007

1901 ???

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
26 Seymour St Nottingham, Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Birth place Occupation
Thomas Henry Goddard Head Married Male 37 1874 Nottingham Warehous Clerk
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Mary Ann Goddard Wife Married Female 34 1877 Nottingham -
Transcription
Arthur Goddard Son - Male 9 1902 Nottingham

THOMAS HENRY
Last name GODDARD
Marriage quarter 4
Marriage year 1901
Registration month -
MarriageFinderâ„¢ THOMAS HENRY GODDARD married one of these people
Mary Ann Hopewell, Elizabeth Burton
District Nottingham
District number -
County Nottinghamshire
Country England
Volume 7B
Volume as transcribed 7B
Page number 536

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 27 Jul 2018 16:01

Birth:

GODDARD, THOMAS HENRY mms JOHNSON
GRO Reference: 1873 D Quarter in NOTTINGHAM Volume 07B Page 280

Maddie

Maddie Report 27 Jul 2018 15:56

FOR REF
3 Byron Street , Nottingham C.B., Nottinghamshire, England
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First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule Sub Number
Thomas Henry Goddard 23 Nov 1873 Male Builders Storekeeper Married 133 1
Alice Rennocks 09 Dec 1893 Female House Keeper Married 133 2
Florence Jackson (Reunocks) 17 Jul 1917 Female Cardboard Box Maker Single 133 3
Harold Goddard 17 May 1925 Male Errand Boy Single 133 4
Ernest Goddard 30 Apr 1928 Male School Single 133 5