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paphosdave

paphosdave Report 19 Jun 2018 12:30

This is ALL the info I have from my wife, Frances and she would dearly love to find out more. Robert John Powell c1873-died 1954, bn Towyn,North Wales. Mrd Unknown but had 2 sons James & Robert. 2nd wife Annie Unknown had 12 children [no order here]
John [c1919-c1980 mrd Ethel ?], Annie[Fran's Mum 1920-1983 mrd James Wilson],Alfred,Edith[Edie],Elsie,Albert, Edward,Ernest,Joan,Dorothy,Doris & Harry

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 19 Jun 2018 12:33

Have you found them on any census

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 19 Jun 2018 12:45

Was Annie quite young when she married??


First name(s) ANNIE
Last name POWELL
Marriage quarter 4
Marriage year 1938
Registration month -
MarriageFinder™ ANNIE POWELL married
James Wilson
Spouse's last name Wilson
District Barton
District number -
County Lancashire
Country England
Volume 8C
Volume as transcribed 8C
Page number 1133
Record set England & Wales Marriages 1837-2005
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Civil Marriage & Divorce
Collections from Great Britain, England
© brightsolid online publishing ltd

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 19 Jun 2018 12:49

Could this be them on the 1939 register


Wilson Household (3 People)
Asaph Street , Salford C.B., Lancashire, England
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FIRST NAME(S) LAST NAME(S) DOB OCCUPATION
Annie Wilson 11 Jan 1920 Unpaid Domestic Duties
James Wilson 20 Jul 1915 Railway Carriage Cleaner
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Ref: RG101/4632A/004/6 Letter Code: NPRX
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 19 Jun 2018 12:53

????

Marriages Sep 1939
Collier Ethel Powell Salford 8d 1833
Powell John R Collier Salford 8d 1833


Births Jun 1919
Powell John R Birchall Newport M. 11a 320

But not seeing all the children with mmn Birchall

paphosdave

paphosdave Report 19 Jun 2018 13:26

Thanks Shirley, I have this info already apart from the Collier/Powell wedding date. I forgot that Fran's Aunty Ett's name was Collier. As usual, we searchers are like Oliver Twist...Can I have some more please? Take care. God Bless. D.

paphosdave

paphosdave Report 19 Jun 2018 13:28

Not looked on census, I can't afford the fees, that's why I rely on you wonderful people here.

paphosdave

paphosdave Report 19 Jun 2018 13:33

Yes, Annie was just 18 when they married, may be because of the threat of imminent war. Frances was born 1940 and her brother, John Edward, in 1942. He never saw his Dad until 1946 when he returned home from Burma.

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safc

safc Report 19 Jun 2018 13:35

Marriage: 24 Dec 1938 St Mary the Virgin, Eccles, Lancashire, England
James Wilson - 23, Carriage Cleaner, Bachelor, 21 Lane End, Eccles
Annie Powell - 18, Spinster, 19 Lane End, Eccles
Groom's Father: Thomas Wilson, Carter
Bride's Father: Robert Powell, Shoe Repairer
Witness: John Robert Powell; Emma Sutton
Married by Banns by: Alvan Birkett, Vicar
Register: Marriages 1929 - 1942, Page 179, Entry 358
Source: Manchester Central Library

paphosdave

paphosdave Report 19 Jun 2018 14:01

Thank you for this safc, some info I didn't have this morning. D.

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 19 Jun 2018 14:13

???

Marriages Sep 1908
POWELL Robert Jones Corwen 11b 578
ROBERTS Annie Corwen 11b 578

The jones is blurred on the actual typed sheet so could be john

malyon

malyon Report 19 Jun 2018 14:13

look on familysearch for census its free

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 19 Jun 2018 14:42

Based on marriage area

Maybe
Births Dec 1917
Collier Ethel Smith Salford 8d 179


England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007 No Image
Name: Ethel Powell
Death Age: 77
Birth Date: 2 Oct 1917
Registration Date: Apr 1995
Registration district: Salford
Inferred County: Greater Manchester
Register Number: TD41
District and Subdistrict: 0111D

alviegal

alviegal Report 19 Jun 2018 14:47

Births Jun 1918 (>99%)
Powell John R Kelsall Barton I. 8c 890
Births Mar 1920 (>99%)
Powell Annie Kelsall Barton I. 8c 1296
Births Mar 1923 (>99%)
Powell Alfred Kelsall Barton I. 8c 954
Births Jun 1924 (>99%)
Powell Harry Kelsall Barton I 8c 922
Births Mar 1926 (>99%)
Powell Edith M Kelsall Barton I. 8c 852
Births Jun 1928 (>99%)
Powell Albert Kelsall Barton I. 8c 839
Births Jun 1929 (>99%)
Powell Elsie M Kelsall Barton I. 8c 798
Births Dec 1931 (>99%)
Powell Joan Kelsall Barton I. 8c 685
Births Jun 1933 (>99%)
POWELL Ernest Kelsall Barton I. 8c 745
Births Jun 1935 (>99%)
Powell Dorothy Kelsall Barton 8c 718
Births Jun 1936 (>99%)
Powell Edward Kelsall Barton 8c 710
Births Jun 1942 (>99%)
Powell Doris U Kelsall Barton 6b 995


Marriages Sep 1917 (>99%)
Beech Emily L Wellwood Barton I. 8c 1010
Haddock Walter Smith Barton I. 8c 1010
>>Kelsall Annie Powell Barton I. 8c 1010
>>Powell Robert Kelsall Barton I. 8c 1010
Wellwood Daniel W Beech Barton I. 8c 1010


Marriage: 22 Aug 1917 St Mary the Virgin, Eccles, Lancashire, England
Robert Powell - 33, Clogger, Widower, 3 Thomas St.
Annie Kelsall - 20, Spinster, 6 Thomas St.
Groom's Father: James Powell, Joiner
Bride's Father: Robert Kelsall, Maker Up
Witness: John Ratcliffe; Mary Dorinda O'Kelly
Married by Banns by: George Vaughan, Assistant Curate
Register: Marriages 1906 - 1919, Page 218, Entry 435
Source: Manchester Central Library

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 19 Jun 2018 14:51

Looks like she is living with her parents


Powell Household (1 Person)
East Wynford Street , Salford C.B., Lancashire, England
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FIRST NAME(S) LAST NAME(S) DOB OCCUPATION
Ethel Powell 02 Oct 1917 Suet Packing Hand
Ref: RG101/4640D/019/12 Letter Code: NPUM
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Same address


Collier Household (4 People)
58 East Wynford Street , Salford C.B., Lancashire, England
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FIRST NAME(S) LAST NAME(S) DOB OCCUPATION
Oscar G Collier 05 May 1889 Dock Labourer Hw
Annie Collier 17 Dec 1889 Unpaid Domestic Duties
James Collier 08 Jul 1921 Single Radio Assembler
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Ref: RG101/4640D/019/8 Letter Code: NPUM
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 19 Jun 2018 15:07

Got them birth years are a bit different for mum and dad


Powell Household (7 People)
40 Walker Road , Eccles M.B., Lancashire, England
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FIRST NAME(S) LAST NAME(S) DOB OCCUPATION
Alfred Powell 26 Jan 1923 Plumbers Mate
Robert Powell 21 Mar 1885 Boot & Shoe Repairer
Anne Powell 13 Jun 1897 Unpaid Domestic Duties
Albert Powell 07 May 1928 At School
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Joan Barrett (Powell) 26 Sep 1931 At School
Dorothy Coles (Powell) 22 Apr 1935 Under School Age
Ref: RG101/4753F/010/27 Letter Code: NUMA
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rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 19 Jun 2018 15:10

Is this your family please? If so, a different birth year for father Robert.


1939 REGISTER TRANSCRIPTION
Powell Household (7 People)
40 Walker Road , Eccles M.B., Lancashire, England

Alfred Powell
DOB 26 Jan 1923
SEX Male
OCCUPATION Plumbers Mate
MARITAL STATUS Single
SCHEDULE 107
SCHEDULE SUB NUMBER 3

Robert Powell
DOB 21 Mar 1885
SEX Male
OCCUPATION Boot & Shoe Repairer
MARITAL STATUS Married
SCHEDULE 107
SCHEDULE SUB NUMBER 1

Anne Powell
DOB 13 Jun 1897
SEX Female
OCCUPATION Unpaid Domestic Duties
MARITAL STATUS Married
SCHEDULE 107
SCHEDULE SUB NUMBER 2

Albert Powell
DOB 07 May 1928
SEX Male
OCCUPATION At School
MARITAL STATUS Single
SCHEDULE 107
SCHEDULE SUB NUMBER 4

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Joan Barrett (Powell)
DOB 26 Sep 1931
SEX Female
OCCUPATION At School
MARITAL STATUS Single
SCHEDULE 107
SCHEDULE SUB NUMBER 6

Dorothy Coles (Powell)
DOB 22 Apr 1935
SEX Female
OCCUPATION Under School Age
MARITAL STATUS Single
SCHEDULE 107
SCHEDULE SUB NUMBER 7

Ref: RG101/4753F/010/31 Letter Code: NUMA
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 19 Jun 2018 15:12

1911 census with the two sons

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Name: Robert Powell
Age in 1911: 26
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1885
Relation to Head: Boarder
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Salford, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Broughton
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County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address: 8 West St Broughton
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Clogger >>>>>
Registration district: Salford
Registration District Number: 465
Sub-registration district: Greengate
ED, institution, or vessel: 19
Piece: 24032
Household Members:
Name Age
Edward Coupe 46
Lilian Coupe 23
Richard Coupe 18
Ellen Coupe 16
Edith Coupe 13
Robert Powell 26
Ada Powell 26
Robert Powell 4
James Powell 2

Note the occ is still to do with footwear

Marriages Dec 1906
POWELL Robert Salford 8d 144
WILDE Ada Salford 8d 144


Her death
View England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1837-1915
Name: Ada Powell
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1884
Registration Year: 1914
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Age at Death: 30
Registration district: Salford
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 8d
Page: 138

Birth surname misspelt

POWELL, ROBERT WILD
GRO Reference: 1907 J Quarter in MANCHESTER Volume 08D Page 243

POWELL, JAMES WILD
GRO Reference: 1908 S Quarter in SALFORD Volume 08D Page 121 Order

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 19 Jun 2018 15:16

Marriages Dec 1906
POWELL Robert Salford 8d 144
Wilde Ada Salford 8d 144

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 19 Jun 2018 15:29

Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: Order:
POWELL, JAMES WILD Order
GRO Reference: 1908 S Quarter in SALFORD Volume 08D Page 121 Order
POWELL, WILLIAM WILD Order
GRO Reference: 1911 D Quarter in SALFORD Volume 08D Page 208 Order