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Hi,
I am looking to find Thomas Daniel Quine born around 1850 on the Isl of Man. He married Isabella ? Who was also from the Isle of Man. They had the following children in Liverpool.
1879 Maud E J
Thomas J,
Ann J,
Beatrice M,
Lily S.
I cannot find the marriage of Thomas and Isabella nor their parents or their deaths. Any help that people could give would be wonderful.
Thanks
Kathy :-D

The family in 1891, just for our reference:

Thomas Quinn
in the 1891 England Census
Name: Thomas Quinn
Gender: Male
Age: 41
Relationship: Head
Birth Year: 1850
Spouse: Isabella Quinn
Child: Maud E J Quinn
Thomas J Quinn
Ann J Quinn
Beatrice M Quinn
Lily L Quinn
Birth Place: Isle of Man, Isle of Man
Civil Parish: Toxteth Park
Residence Place: Toxteth Park, Lancashire, England
Sub registration district: Toxteth Park
ED, Institution or Vessel: 51
Neighbors:
Piece: 2933
Folio: 86
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Quinn 41
Isabella Quinn 38 - Isle of Man
Maud E J Quinn 11
Thomas J Quinn 9
Ann J Quinn 7
Beatrice M Quinn 5
Lily L Quinn 1 [ Lily S ]

for ref

Name Thomas Quinn
Gender Male
Age 41
Relationship Head
Birth Year 1850
Spouse Isabella Quinn
Child Maud E J Quinn
Birth Place Isle of Man, Isle of Man
Civil parish Toxteth Park
Residence Place Toxteth Park, Lancashire, England
Sub registration district Toxteth Park
ED, Institution or Vessel 51
Piece 2933
Folio 86
Household Members
Name Age
Thomas Quinn
Isabella Quinn
Maud E J Quinn
Thomas J Quinn
Ann J Quinn
Beatrice M Quinn
Lily L Quinn

QUINE, LILY SOPHIA mms KNEEN
GRO Reference: 1889 D Quarter in TOXTETH PARK Volume 08B Page 191


QUINE, BEATRICE MARGARET mms KNEEN
GRO Reference: 1886 M Quarter in TOXTETH PARK Volume 08B Page 172

possible death

Name: Thomas Quinn
Birth Date: 15 Feb 1855
Death Date: 22 Oct 1922
Death Place: West Derby, Metropolitan Borough of Liverpool, Merseyside, England
Has Bio?: N
Spouse: Isabella Quinn
Children: Anthony Quinn
URL: https://www.findagrave.com/mem...

forget death as this looks to be the above
1901
Name: Thomas Quinn
Age: 46
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Spouse: Isabella Quinn
Birth Place: Whiston, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Everton
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Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation:
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Registration district: West Derby
Sub-registration district: South Everton
ED, institution, or vessel: 20
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3482
Folio: 157
Page Number: 20
Household schedule number: 117
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Quinn 46
Isabella Quinn 46
Anthony Quinn 9

1881
Name: Thomas Quine
Age: 33
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1848
Relationship to Head: Head
Spouse: Isabella Quine
Gender: Male
Where born: Isle of Man, Isle of Man
Civil Parish: Toxteth Park
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address: 4 Pecksniff St
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Engineer
Registration district: Toxteth Park
ED, institution, or vessel: 34
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3641
Folio: 7
Page Number: 9
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Quine 33
Isabella Quine 31
Elanor J. Quine 1

relevant

aother child bornin the Isle of Man

Name Thomas Quine
gender Male

occupation:- Constable
Abode:- Douglas

Wife Isabella Kneen
Daughter Nessie Isabella Quine
Other information in the record of Nessie Isabella Quine
from Isle of Man Parish Registers
Event Type Christening
Event Date 29 Nov 1874
Event Place Braddan, Isle of Man
Gender Female
Father's Name Thomas Quine
Mother's Name Isabella Kneen

Their marriage

Name Thomas Quine
Spouse's Name Isabella Kneen
Event Date 06 Aug 1872
Event Place Braddan,Isle Of Man,England

I imagine they married in the Isle of Man.

Isabella's baptism ??


Isabella Kneen
Isle of Man Parish Registers
Event Type Christening
Event Date 07 Jul 1850
Event Place Patrick, Isle of Man
Gender Female
Father's Name John Kneen
Mother's Name Elenor Kneen

Possibly her parents' marriage ??


John Kneen
mentioned in the record of John Kneen and Elenor Waterson
Name John Kneen
Birth Date 1823
Age 21
Spouse's Name Elenor Waterson
Spouse's Birth Date 1823
Spouse's Age 21
Event Date 13 Aug 1844
Event Place Patrick,Isle Of Man,England

In 1911 Lily and Beatrice are both married and living together:-

Name: Lilian Sopia Holm
Age in 1911: 21
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1890
Relation to Head: Wife
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Toxteth Park
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County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address: 65 Greig St Lpool
Marital Status: Married
Registration district: Toxteth Park
Registration District Number: 454
Sub-registration district: Toxteth Park South West
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Piece: 22234
Household Members:
Name Age
James Holm 23
Lilian Sopia Holm 21
Elizabeth Holm 5/12

Harry Beard 25
Beatrice Beard 25
Lily Beard 2

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Name: Lily Sophia Quine
Gender: Female
Age: 21
Birth Year: abt 1888
35 Moreton Street
Marriage Date: 25 Dec 1909
Marriage Place: Toxteth Park, St John the Baptist, Lancashire, England
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Father: Thomas Daniel Quine
Engineer (not noted as being deceased)
Spouse: James Holmes
Fireman

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Name: Beatrice Margaret Quine
Gender: Female
Age: 21
Birth Year: abt 1887
7 Chipping Street
Marriage Date: 7 Jun 1908
Marriage Place: Toxteth, St Silas, Lancashire, England
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Father: Thomas Daniel Quine
Engineer (not noted as deceased)
Spouse: Harry Rowe Beard

Name: Beatrice M Beard
Death Age: 79
Birth Date: abt 1884
Registration Date: Dec 1963
Registration district: Middleton
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 10e
Page: 483

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Marriages Dec 1900 (>99%)
Pickles John W. Derby 8b 577
Quine Maud Elleanor W. Derby 8b 577
Quine Maud Ellenor W. Derby 8b 577
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Name: Elleanor Pickles
Age in 1911: 32
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1879
Relation to Head: Wife
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: West Derby
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County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address: 18 Fedora Street
Marital Status: Married
Registration district: West Derby
Registration District Number: 455
Sub-registration district: West Derby Eastern
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Piece: 22614
Household Members:
Name Age
John Pickles 32 - French Polisher
Elleanor Pickles 32
John Pickles 9
William Pickles 6
Hanley Pickles 4
Harry Pickles 1

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1939
Name: Maud Elinor Pickles
Gender: Female
Marital Status: Married
Birth Date: 23 Apr 1879
Residence Year: 1939
Address: 226
Residence Place: Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Occupation: Unpaid Domestic Duties
Schedule Number: 76
Sub Schedule Number: 2
Enumeration District: NIWG
Registration district: 455/7.
Inferred Spouse: John Pickles
Household Members:
Name
John Pickles
Maud Elinor Pickles
William Pickles
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Name: Maud Eleanor J Pickles
Death Age: 92
Birth Date: 23 Apr 1879
Registration Date: Sep 1971
Registration district: Liverpool
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 10d
Page: 413

I cannot thank you enough, I have been banging my head with the Isle of Man connection, I am more used to dealing with Scottish records.

The information that you have found for me is priceless

Thank you so much
Kathy

Hi,
I noticed that on the Isle of Man Thomas is a Constable but in Liverpool on Lily’s Wedding banns he is an Engineer, would it be normal to give up the Police to become an Engineer do you think?

Thanks
Kathy

is this thomas in 1871

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Thomas D Quin
England and Wales Census, 1871
Name: Thomas D Quin
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1871
Event Place: Westoe, Durham, England
Enumeration District: 16
Gender: Male
Age: 16
Marital Status: Unmarried
Occupation: Labourer
Relationship to Head of Household: Son
Birth Year (Estimated): 1855
Birthplace: Felling, Durham
Entry Number: 20
Affiliate Image Identifier: GBC/1871/5032/0203
Household Role Sex Age Birthplace
Thomas D Quin Head Male 43 Co Armagh, Ireland
M D Quin Wife Female 44 Co Armagh, Ireland
Thomas D Quin Son Male 16 Felling, Durham
Sarah D Quin Daughter Female 13 South Shields, Durham
William D Quin Son Male 10 South Shields, Durham

The death of their first child born on the Isle of Man:-

Name: Nessie Isabella Quine
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1875
Registration Year: 1878
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Age at Death: 3
Registration district: West Derby
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 8b
Page: 265

Hi Malyon, I don’t think it is my family as he was born on the Isle of Man.

Thanks
Kathy

If the baptism of Isabella is correct, then this could very well be her:-

1851
Name: Isabella Kneen
Age: 9 Mo
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850
Where born: Patrick, Isle of Man, Isle of Man
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: John Kneen
Mother's name: Elanor Kneen
Gender: Female
Civil Parish or Township: Patrick
County/Island: Isle of Man
Country: Isle of Man
Street address:
Registration district: Isle of Man
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 19
Piece: 2523
Folio: 55B
Page Number: 6
Household Members:
Name Age
John Kneen 29 - Fisherman - b.1822, Patrick, Isle of Man, Isle of Man
Elanor Kneen 28 - b.1823 (same place)
William Kneen 4
Isabella Kneen 9 Mo

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1861
Name: Isabella Kneen
Age: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: John Kneen
Mother's name: Eleanor Kneen
Gender: Female
Where born: Patrick, Isle of Man
Civil Parish or Township: Patrick
Country: Isle of Man
Registration district: Anglesey
Sub-registration district: Holyhead
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 28
Piece: 4427
Folio: 55
Page Number: 7
Household Members:
Name Age
John Kneen 38
Eleanor Kneen 37
Isabella Kneen 10
Sophia Kneen 5
John Kneen 4
Thos Kneen 2
Margaret Corlett 20
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1871
Name: Isabella Kneen
Age in 1871: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Patrick, Isle of Man, Isle of Man
Civil Parish: Conchan
Town: Douglas
County/Island: Isle of Man
Country: Isle of Man
Occupation: Servant Domestic
Registration district: Isle Of Man
Sub-registration district: E
ED, institution, or vessel: 11a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 54
Piece: 5775
Folio: 79
Page Number: 11
Household Members:
Name Age
William Cowley 56
Jane Cowley 50
John Cowley 29
Francis Cowley 13
William Patterson 23
Isabella Kneen 20

??? Purely because their marriage took place here - (Braddan):-

1851
Name: Thomas Quine
Age: 6 Mo
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850
Where born: Braddan, Isle of Man, Isle of Man
Relation: Son
Father's name: William Quine
Mother's name: Ann Quine
Gender: Male
Civil Parish or Township: Braddan
County/Island: Isle of Man
Country: Isle of Man
Registration district: Isle of Man
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 4
Piece: 2525
Folio: 459
Page Number: 1
Household Members:
Name Age
William Quine 26
Ann Quine 27
William Quine 2
Thomas Quine 6 Mo
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Name: William Quine
Age: 21 Years
Birth Year: abt 1848
Burial Date: 3 Jul 1869
Burial Place: Braddan, Isle of Man
Residence: B'menagh
Biography: 21 yrs
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1861
Name: Thomas Quine
Age: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851
Relation: Son
Father's name: William Quine
Mother's name: Ann Quine
Gender: Male
Where born: Braddan, Isle of Man
Civil Parish or Township: Conchan
Country: Isle of Man
Registration district: Anglesey
Sub-registration district: Holyhead
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 52
Piece: 4415
Folio: 44
Page Number: 12
Household Members:
Name Age
William Quine 37
Ann Quine 38
Thomas Quine 10
Anna Quine 8
Margarett Quine 6
John Quine 4
Sarah Quine 2
Elizabeth I Quine 5 Months
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Name: Ann Maddrell
Marriage Date: 20 May 1848
Marriage Place: Braddan, Isle of Man
Spouse: William Quine
Biography: Married: William Quine.
Groom's marital status: Bachelor.
Groom's father: not stated.
Bride's marital status: Spinster.
Bride's father: not stated. (MS09073/3/5part2)