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Riley54
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30 May 2018 23:37 |
Does anyone have any information on my dad's cousin Robin Peace. He was from Warsop Vale in Nottinghamshire. Probably born around 1926.
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KathleenBell
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31 May 2018 00:06 |
Could he have been born a bit later? This is the only birth I can see in Nottinghamshire:-
England & Wales births 1837-2006 Transcription
First name(s) ROBIN Last name PEACE Birth year 1935 Birth quarter 1 Registration month - Mother's last name Stewart District Basford County Nottinghamshire Country England Volume 7B Page 390 Record set England & Wales Births 1837-2006 Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Civil Births
If this is the correct birth then it is likely that this is his death:-
England & Wales deaths 1837-2007 Transcription Print Start free family tree First name(s) ROBIN Last name PEACE Gender Male Birth day 17 Birth month 12 Birth year 1934 Age - Death quarter 2 Death year 1999 District Nottingham District number 6891A Register number A69A Entry number 002 Date of registration mm/yy 0699 County Nottinghamshire Country England Record set England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007 Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Civil Deaths & Burials
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KathleenBell
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31 May 2018 00:11 |
Could this be his parent's marriage? :-
England & Wales marriages 1837-2005 Transcription Learn more
Print View image Start free family tree First name(s) HENRY H Last name PEACE Marriage quarter 3 Marriage year 1928 Registration month - MarriageFinderâ„¢ HENRY H PEACE married Bessie Stewart Spouse's last name Stewart District Basford District number - County Nottinghamshire Country England Volume 7B Volume as transcribed 7B Page number 373 Record set England & Wales Marriages 1837-2005 Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
If so then this will be his parents on the 1939 register and one of the closed records is probably Robin:-
Peace Household (5 People) St Elmo Chestnut Grove , Carlton U.D., Nottinghamshire, England
FIRST NAME(S) LAST NAME(S) DOB SEX OCCUPATION MARITAL STATUS SCHEDULE SCHEDULE SUB NUMBER
Bessie Peace 21 May 1895 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 314 2 Henry H Peace 23 Jan 1900 Male Railway Cleaner & F? Married 314 1 John S Peace 26 Jan 1929 Male At School Single 314 3 Sorry, this record is officially closed. Check if you can open a closed record. Sorry, this record is officially closed. Check if you can open a closed record.
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KathleenBell
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31 May 2018 00:16 |
This could be his marriage:-
England & Wales marriages 1837-2005 Transcription
First name(s) ROBIN Last name PEACE Marriage quarter 4 Marriage year 1969 Registration month - MarriageFinderâ„¢ ROBIN PEACE married Pauline Topley Spouse's last name Topley District Basford District number - County Nottinghamshire Country England Volume 3C Volume as transcribed 3C Page number 263 Record set England & Wales Marriages 1837-2005
This looks like a child from that marriage:-
England & Wales births 1837-2006 Transcription
First name(s) RICHARD STUART Last name PEACE Birth year 1970 Birth quarter 4 Registration month - Mother's last name Topley District Nottingham County Nottinghamshire Country England Volume 3C Page 1718 Record set England & Wales Births 1837-2006 Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Civil Births
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KathleenBell
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31 May 2018 00:21 |
Possibly Richard's marriage:-
England & Wales marriages 1837-2005 Transcription
First name(s) RICHARD S Last name PEACE Marriage quarter 3 Marriage year 1999 Registration month 9 MarriageFinderâ„¢ RICHARD S PEACE married Nicola J Kemp Spouse's last name Kemp District Loughborough District number 601 County Leicestershire Country England Volume - Page number 0888 Entry number 038 Source code RXX Record set England & Wales Marriages 1837-2005
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KathleenBell
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31 May 2018 00:23 |
Will send you a private message with an address from the 2014 electoral register on Findmypast for Richard and his wife. They have lived there for many years so may still be at the same address.
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Riley54
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31 May 2018 05:46 |
Hello Kathleen Thank you very much for all the information. It could be that Robin was born later than I thought and that this is who I am looking for. I will write to his son and see if I can get any other information that will confirm the connection.
Can I just ask? In the 1939 register where two of the records in the Household are closed - do you know the reasons that records are closed and how I would be able to check to see if they can be opened. Many thanks for your time
Sharon
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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31 May 2018 05:52 |
Record are closed for those under 100 years of age whose deaths havent been picked up to last time the register was updated
It was the reassurance at the time that records would be sealed for 100 years
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31 May 2018 06:08 |
To check that is the correct cousin, who were your dad's uncles and aunts. Robin must be from your dad's mother's side?
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Riley54
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31 May 2018 08:36 |
Shirley
Many thanks for the clarification on that.
Sharon
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31 May 2018 08:40 |
Rose
Robin is from my dad's side.
I do have ancestors that could be his parents but I need to find the link.
thank you Sharon
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Catherine
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31 May 2018 13:20 |
Who were your Dad's grandparents? If Robin and your Dad were cousins then they must share the same grandparents. It may be possible to make a link on following the family.
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Riley54
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31 May 2018 14:29 |
My Dad's grandparents were James (1864 - 1920)and Rosa (1866 - 1948) Peace nee Cox. They had 10 possibly 12 children but all I have is their names and year of birth ranging from 1884 to 1909. I have the children for four of them but not the others. I could send for death certificates but it would be expensive and there is only a slim chance of Robin being named on the death certificate as the informant.
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Catherine
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31 May 2018 17:23 |
1891 (for ref) Name: James Peace Gender: Male Age: 27 Relationship: Head Birth Year: 1864 Spouse: Rosa Peace Child: Horace Peace Faith Peace Mary Peace Birth Place: Newhall, Derbyshire, England Civil Parish: Newhall Residence Place: Newhall, Derbyshire, England Sub registration district: Gresley ED, Institution or Vessel: 25 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 2200 Folio: 115 Household Members: Name Age James Peace 27 Rosa Peace 25 Horace Peace 6 Faith Peace 4 Mary Peace 2
1901 (just for ref) Name: James Peace Age: 37 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1864 Relation to Head: Head Gender: Male Spouse: Rosa Peace Birth Place: Newhall, Derbyshire, England Civil Parish: Newhall Search Photos: Search for 'Newhall' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection Ecclesiastical parish: Newhall St John County/Island: Staffordshire Country: England Street address: Occupation: Registration district: Burton upon Trent Sub-registration district: Gresley ED, institution, or vessel: 15 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 2639 Folio: 91 Page Number: 7 Household schedule number: 41 Household Members: Name Age James Peace 37 Rosa Peace 36 Horace Peace 16 Mary Peace 12 Harriet Peace 9 John Peace 7 Ann Peace 5 Agnes Peace 2 Arthur Peace 9/12
1911 Name: James Peace Age in 1911: 47 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1864 Relation to Head: Head Gender: Male Birth Place: Newhall, Derbyshire Civil Parish: Stanton and Newhall Search Photos: Search for 'Stanton and Newhall' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection County/Island: Derbyshire Country: England Street address: 6 Beards Rd, Newhall Nr Burton On Trent Marital Status: Married Years Married: 26 Estimated Marriage Year: 1885 Occupation: Miner and Hewer Registration district: Burton upon Trent Registration District Number: 365 Sub-registration district: Gresley ED, institution, or vessel: 10 Household schedule number: 144 Piece: 16779 Household Members: Name Age James Peace 47 Rosa Peace 45 Mary Peace 22 John Peace 17 Arthur Peace 10 Leve Peace 8 Albert Edward Peace 6 William E Peace 3 Winnie May Peace 1
Siblings:- Horace, Faith, Mary, Harriet, John, Ann, Agnes, Arthur, Levi, Albert Edward, William E., Winnie May.
If the Robin born 1935 is your man and his father is Henry H. Peace, then he does not show as a sibling in the Peace family above.
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Catherine
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31 May 2018 17:26 |
I would suggest that Henry H. Peace is the following:-
Name: Henry Hector Peace Age in 1911: 10 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1901 Relation to Head: Son Gender: Male Birth Place: Burton Upon Trent Civil Parish: Burton on Trent Search Photos: Search for 'Burton on Trent' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection County/Island: Staffordshire Country: England Street address: 50 Horninglow Road North, Burton Upon Trent Occupation: school Registration district: Burton upon Trent Registration District Number: 365 Sub-registration district: Burton upon Trent ED, institution, or vessel: 10 Household schedule number: 182 Piece: 16797 Household Members: Name Age John William Peace 50 Henrietta Peace 48 John William Peace 19 Dorothy M Peace 16 Herberta Peace 12 Henry Hector Peace 10
...........and his parents are John William and Henrietta Peace, so could not be an uncle.
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Riley54
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31 May 2018 19:34 |
I see what you mean Catherine. Do you recommend I sign up to get parish baptisms, marriages and deaths, I am already a member on genes reunited . Also can you recommend a Family Tree maker software where I can enter my family tree.
Thank you for your help Sharon
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31 May 2018 20:05 |
How about we start with your dad? Who were your dad's parents? Might be better off to start with him and work backwards.
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Riley54
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31 May 2018 20:36 |
My dad's name was Horace Peace 1928 - 2013 to Arthur Baden Peace 1900 - 1946 and Clara neeTagg. 1900 - 1955 They had 11 children but 3 died in infancy
Arthur's parents were James 1864 - 1920 and Rosa 1865 - 1948 Peace nee Cox They had 12 children
James' parents were George and Ann Peace nee Miller both born around 1844 They had 11 children
George's mother was Sarah Peace born 1798 I have no other information on Sarah This is as far back as I have been able to go.
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31 May 2018 21:27 |
So - working through Arthur's male siblings -
PEACE, HORACE mms COX GRO Reference: 1884 D Quarter in BURTON UPON TRENT Volume 06B
?? Marriages Sep 1907 (>99%) PEACE Horace Burton 6b 765 PRICE Edith Mary Burton 6b 765
Horace Peace in the 1911 England Census Name: Horace Peace Age in 1911: 25 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1886 Relation to Head: Head Gender: Male Birth Place: Newhall, Derbyshire Civil Parish: Swadlincote County/Island: Derbyshire Country: England Street address: No 2 Union Rd, Swadlincote, Burton On Trent Marital Status: Married Occupation: Tram Conductor Registration district: Burton upon Trent Registration District Number: 365 Sub-registration district: Gresley ED, institution, or vessel: 8 Household schedule number: 75 Piece: 16777 Household Members: Name Age Horace Peace 25 Edith Mary Peace 23 Sydney Peace 1
Another child - looks like the only other one:
Births Mar 1913 (>99%) Peace Faith Price Burton 6b 721
Sadly, both Sidney and Faith died in infancy:
Faith Peace in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1837-1915 Name: Faith Peace Estimated Birth Year: abt 1913 Registration Year: 1913 Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar Age at Death: 0 Registration district: Burton upon Trent Inferred County: Staffordshire Volume: 6b Page: 486
Sydney Peace in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1837-1915 Name: Sydney Peace Estimated Birth Year: abt 1910 Registration Year: 1912 Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar Age at Death: 2 Registration district: Burton upon Trent Inferred County: Staffordshire Volume: 6b Page: 498
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31 May 2018 21:34 |
Arthur's brother John:
PEACE, JOHN HENRY mms COX GRO Reference: 1894 M Quarter in BURTON UPON TRENT Volume 06B Page 425
Marriages Sep 1916 (>99%) Peace John H Yates Burton 6b 561 Yates Lilian M Peace Burton 6b 561
Only one child, apparently:
Births Sep 1917 (>99%) Peace Rosamund I Yates Burton 6b 551
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