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Just received the death certificate and its not the Robin Peace I need. This one was living in Gedling whereas my Robin Peace was living in Warsop Vale Nottinghamshire. So it looks as though Ronald S Peace is the person I was looking for.

thank you
Sharon

Just an update
I'm still awaiting the certificates

thanks
Sharon

There's no reason why any of the children should necessarily have Stretton as a middle name.

It just happened that George & Alice decided Ronald would have it as a middle name - maybe they knew he would be their last child, and thought they ought to get "Stretton" in before it was too late!

Thank you Dea

Sharon x

They 'were' born later ...............

1939:
Peace Household (5 People) 28 North Street , Warsop U.D., Nottinghamshire, England
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First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Occupation
Ronald S Peace 16 Mar 1925 Surface Screen Worker Colliery
George (Thomas) Peace 28 Feb 1881 Surface Screen Worker (Colliery)
Alice Peace 01 Aug 1881 Household Duties (Unpaid)
John W Peace 01 Nov 1913 Coal Getter Below
Charles Stretton 13 Dec 1868 Old Age Pensioner

Dea x

just to throw a spanner in the works I already have George and Alice nee Stretton in my tree born 1881 and 1882
Frances Lillian 1902
Dorothy May 1904
George Enos 1906
Nellie 1911

This information came from the 1911 Census
Home address 20 George Street Newhall

unless John W, Ronald S and Charles were born later but then why would the children on the 1911 Census not have Stretton as their middle name.

Very complicated to answer!

Ronald 's great-grandparents were George and Ann.
Dermot's great-grandparents were George & Ann.

Ronald's grandfather Enos was a brother of Dermot's grandfather James.

So Ronald's father was a cousin of Dermot's father.

What does that make Ronald, in relation to Dermot's father? First cousin once removed ??

Ronald was also the uncle of the Sheriff of Nottingham (Sir John) who was mentioned by the woman who went to Robin's funeral..

Clear as mud.

Right, thanks - so was his father a brother of Dermot's father?

Or is the 'cousin' relationship not necessarily 'first'?

Recapping -
I think we're tending towards thinking that "Robin" may have been a pet name for Ronald Stretton Peace, 1925.

PEACE, HENRY HECTOR OAKEY Order
GRO Reference: 1900 M Quarter in BURTON UPON TRENT Volume 06B Page 471



1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
122, Victoria Crescent, Horninglow, Burton upon Trent, Staffordshire, England


John W Peace Head Married Male 40 1861 Burton on Trent, Staffordshire, England Accountant's Cashier Transcription
Henrietta Peace Wife Married Female 38 1863 Staffordshire, England - Transcription
John W Peace Son - Male 9 1892 Burton on Trent, Staffordshire, England - Transcription
Dorothy M Peace Daughter - Female 6 1895 Burton on Trent, Staffordshire, England - Transcription
Herbert A Peace Son - Male 2 1899 Burton on Trent, Staffordshire, England - Transcription
Henry H Peace Son - Male 1 1900 Burton on Trent, Staffordshire, England - Transcription
Ada Elson Servant Single Female 14 1887 Burton on Trent, Staffordshire, England General Domestic

Have you considered that Robin was the illegitimate child of one of your father's sisters?

Or that 'Robin' could have been a 'pet' name? Winnie the Pooh was published in 1926

The 1934 child was the son of Henry H and Bessie (Stewart)


Peace Household (5 People)
St Elmo Chestnut Grove , Carlton U.D., Nottinghamshire, England

Bessie Peace 21 May 1895 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 314 2
Henry H Peace 23 Jan 1900 Male Railway Cleaner & F? Married 314 1
John S Peace 26 Jan 1929 Male At School Single 314 3
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Thank you ErikaH

I did message him but have not received an answer.

The one born in late 1934 is in someone's tree on here

Thank you everyone for all your help

I'll let you know what I discover

Sharon x

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Well, at least we won't have to wonder about it and you never know, it may just be 'the one'

Certainly there are no other records for either' Robin' to be found at the moment so it is 'worth a shot'.

Do please let us know the details on here as soon as you receive them.

Dea x

I've ordered it Dea and the birth certificate to get the parents names.

At least this will eliminate him one way or another.

Thanks
Sharon

In that case - don't buy that death cert just yet as it looks as if there may be 2 x 'Robin's', although I think your's was actually called something else.

The death cert is for someone younger than your dad.

Dea x

Yes I do mean Robin was older than my dad.

Dermot- you said:

"Dad had told me he was a bit younger than him and Dad was born in 1928."

Did you mean older? 1926 would make him older than your Dad

He may have married in Mansield in 1953 (without his middle initial).

If so, his widow was living in Mansfield as at 2016 ER.

They had five children, all born in Mansfield, except the first, who was born in 1952.