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Ive inherited a death certificate from my Great Grandmother. The certificate is of her uncles death Robert Webber 1883-1966

He died 27th November 1966 at 4 Tredowen Terrace, Ystrad Mynach, East Glamorgan.

But im really struggling with the informant, it looks like E.Ganreson? Its an E. Ga....son but the middle part is a bit too swirly for me.

Below it says son in law and that he is living at 2 Central Street, Ystrad Mynach.

Robert is living at 4 Dumfries St, Aberdare in the 1911 census with his wife and one daughter. It would be great to know if they had any more children and who they married.

Any help would be much appreciated, thank you.

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You haven't given his wife's name so we can take a look

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Robert Webber on the 1939 Register

1939 Register Transcription

Webber Household (3 People) 4 Tudomen Terrace , Caerphilly U.D., Glamorganshire, Wales
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First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule Sub Number
Robert Webber 21 Feb 1883 Male Office Caretaker Married 216 1
Annie Webber 13 Aug 1883 Female Office Caretaker Married 216 2
Hilda L Webber 16 Apr 1907 Female Incapacitated Single 216 3

Hi thanks ill have a look on there. She was called Annie but i dont know her maiden name.

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
4 Dumfries St Aberdare, Aberdare, Glamorganshire, Wales

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Birth place Occupation
Mary Jane Morgan Head Widow Female 37 1874 Won Rhymney At Home
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Thomas John Morgan Son - Male 13 1898 Glamorgan Aberdare School
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Sam Morgan Son - Male 11 1900 Glamorgan Aberdare School
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Albert Edward Plamber Lodger Single Male 23 1888 - Miner Hewer
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Robert Webber Head Married Male 28 1883 Crewkerne Somerset Miner Hewer Colliery
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Annie Webber Wife Married Female 27 1884 Crewkerne Somerset -
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Hilda Lily Webber Daughter - Female 4 1907 Crewkerne Somerset -

This one ?

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Name: Robert Webber
Age in 1911: 28
Estimated birth year: abt 1883
Relation to Head: Maid
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Crewkerne, Somerset, England
Civil Parish: Aberdare
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County/Island: Glamorgan
Country: Wales
Street address: 4 Dumfries St Aberdare
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Miner Hewer (Colling)
Registration district: Merthyr Tydfil
Registration District Number: 590
Sub-registration district: Aberdare
ED, institution, or vessel: 26
Household schedule number: 157
Piece: 32505
Household Members:
Name Age
Mary Jane Morgan 37
Thomas John Morgan 13
Sam Morgan 11
Albert Edward Plamber 23
Robert Webber 28
Annie Webber 27
Hilda Lily Webber 4
Married 4 years 2. Children born 1 still living

WEBBER, HILDA LILY OSBORNE
GRO Reference: 1907 J Quarter in CHARD Volume 05C Page 343 Order


Marriages Mar 1907
OSBORNE Annie Chard 5c 635
WEBBER Robert Chard 5c 635

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Child that died
WEBBER, ELLEN OSBORNE
GRO Reference: 1910 S Quarter in CHARD Volume 05C Page 311


Deaths Mar 1911
WEBBER Ellen 0 Merthyr T. 11a 446

WEBBER, HILDA LILY OSBORNE Order
GRO Reference: 1907 J Quarter in CHARD Volume 05C Page 343

Marriages Mar 1907 (>99%)

OSBORNE Annie Chard 5c 635
WEBBER Robert Chard 5c 635

Osborne, fantastic!

Daughter Hilda never married

England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007


Name: Hilda Lily Webber
Death Age: 71
Birth Date: 16 Apr 1907
Registration Date: Jun 1978
Registration district: Merthyr Tydfil
Inferred County: Mid Glamorgan
Volume: 27
Page: 0222

Andy

All Webber / Osborne children so all possible children:-

Births Sep 1914 (>99%)
Webber Molly Osborne St.Austell 5c 196
Births Sep 1916 (>99%)
Webber Eileen M Osborne St. Austell 5c 164
Births Dec 1916 (>99%)
Webber Charles Osborne Shoreditch 1c 83
Births Dec 1920 (>99%)
Webber Arthur F Osborne Exeter 5b 146
Births Jun 1922 (>99%)
Webber Thomas R Osborne Exeter 5b 134

Well Hilda didn't marry

Deaths Jun 1978 (>99%)
WEBBER HILDA LILY 16AP1907 Merthyr Tyd 27 222

Hilda is noted as Incapacited on 1939 record so not surprising that she never married.

If the informant was his son in law, then it must be the husband of one of his other daughters.

St Austells is at bit far away isnt it.

And you would think that any other children would of been born by 1939 so would be on that record.

Is it possible the informant could of been bending the truth?

This probably accounts for the St Austell births

Marriages Sep 1913 (>99%)
Webber Gustavis L Osborne St.Austell 5c 210

And this for the Exeter births

Marriages Dec 1919 (>99%)
Webber Austin F Osborne Exeter 5b 255

The Shoreditch birth is not directly accounted for by a marriage, but the wife could have been married before

1939 only recorded the people actually living at the address at the time

In 1911, Annie says she has had two children - one of whom has died

From your other 'Thread' with below Census, presuming they must be related...

Birth
WEBBER, GLADYS MAY (WHATLEY)
GRO Reference: 1907 J Quarter in CHARD Volume 05C Page 344

Deaths Mar 1915 (>99%)
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Webber Gwladys 7 Merthyr T. 11a 1168


http://newspapers.library.wales/view/3579491/3579494/40/

(Robert Webber her Uncle, in above article, her Interment)

Chris :)


MarieCeleste Report 4 Dec 2010 17:47

Is this them in 1911?

WEBBER, Joseph Head Married M 33 1878 Assurance Agent Crewkerne Somerset
WEBBER, Alice Wife Married 9 years F 33 1878 Shirt And Collar Hand Coomne St Nicholas Som
WEBBER, Maud Daughter F 8 1903 Crewkerne Somerset
WEBBER, Bessie Daughter F 6 1905 Crewkerne Somerset
WEBBER, Glady Daughter F 3 1908 Crewkerne Somerset
WEBBER, Edna Daughter F 7 1904 Crewkerne Somerset

Registration District: Chard Sub District: Crewkerne Enumeration District: 3 Parish: Crewkerne

Address: Gas Lane Crewkerne County: Somersetshire


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WEBBER, ELLEN OSBORNE Order
GRO Reference: 1910 S Quarter in CHARD Volume 05C Page 311



Deaths Mar 1911 (>99%)
WEBBER Ellen 0 Merthyr T. 11a 446

Yes,Bessie Webber is my Great Grandmother. Gladys was never mentioned in the family, my mother never knew there were 4 daughters, she olny knew the 3.