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lancashireAnn
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19 Feb 2018 12:38 |
Isaac was born in 1834-36 In Abergavenny son of Roger a wheelwright/carpenter.
I have his marriage certificate to Harriet Ballard on 7 May 1854 in Bromham and he was living in Trowbridge. I have just found a daughter Harriet Jane born in Dec qtr 1854 in Trowbridge. His second daughter Emma was born in Abergavenny. The marriage states he was of full age (probably not true as he was only 16 in 1851 and on all that I have found of him he was an iron moulder by trade.
I have never found him from his marriage onwards though I have all census of Emma. He registered Emma's birth in April 1859.
There is a tree on ancestry which suggests he died in USA, which I suspect is not true as they have him marrying out there and his baptism as the son of Isaac & Ann though the tree itself states son Roger & Jane!
However his brother was out in USA for some time as he had 2 children born out there and then returned to Wales. I do not have access to world wide ancestry and wondered if someone could look at this for me please.
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ErikaH
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19 Feb 2018 12:40 |
Is this the one on the Ancestry tree?
First name(s) Isaac Last name Prosser Sex Male Age 30 Birth year 1833 Birth place England Origin country England Year 1863 Date 1863 Destination country United States Place United States Source dataset California, San Francisco Passenger Lists, 1893-1953 View original source record View the record's source Record set British & Irish Roots Collection
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19 Feb 2018 12:43 |
???????? Name: Isaac Prosser Estimated birth year: abt 1834 Registration Year: 1898 Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep Age at Death: 64 Registration district: Abergavenny Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District Inferred County: Monmouthshire Volume: 11a Page: 37
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lancashireAnn
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19 Feb 2018 12:44 |
Yes that is in the tree I have found
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ErikaH
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19 Feb 2018 12:44 |
For info only
First name(s) Isaac Last name Prosser Age Of Age Birth year - Marital status B Occupation Iron Moulder Residence ? Marriage year 1854 Marriage date 07 May 1854 Place Bromham County Wiltshire Country England Spouse's first name(s) Harriet Spouse's last name Ballard Spouse's age Of Age Spouse's marital status S Spouse's residence Bromham Father's name Peter Prosser Father's occupation Carpenter Spouse's father's name James Ballard Spouse's father's occupation Weaver Witness 1 James Ballard Witness 2 Emma Prosser Record set Wiltshire Marriages Index 1538-1933
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lancashireAnn
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19 Feb 2018 12:46 |
the 1898 death has a newspaper article which states that that death was in a coal mining accident which I was tempted to discard as Isaac had always described himself as an iron moulder (apprentice in 1851)
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ErikaH
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19 Feb 2018 12:47 |
Name: Isaac Prosser Birth Year: abt 1834 Event Type: Death Event Year: 1898 Death Age: 64 Death Date: 29 Sep 1898 Death Place: Monmouth, Wales Occupation: Overman Colliery: Forge Slope Owner: Blaenavon Co Ltd Notes: While giving directions for removing some additional side coal in the Main Heading which was being reopened after the strike a fall of roof occurred killing him instantly.
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19 Feb 2018 12:47 |
Just to discount this one - there are 2 Isaac Prosser's on the 1841 census - yours in Abergavenny and this one in Whitson s/o Isaac and Ann
1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 216, Euston Road, Pancras Wards, St Pancras, London & Middlesex, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Sampson Windsor Lodger Married Male 23 1838 Tailor Somerset, England James Jackson Lodger Married Male 25 1836 Carpenter Plymouth, Devon, England Isaac Prosser Lodger Married Male 24 1837 Undertaker Whitson, Monmouthshire, Wales
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lancashireAnn
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19 Feb 2018 12:48 |
That is the correct marriage but his father is Roger (I have a copy of the original certificate)
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lancashireAnn
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19 Feb 2018 12:50 |
greyghost yes I found that and I think that is where the tree I found goes wrong, mixing up the 2 Isaacs
I agree that the 1898 one is probably that Isacc
thanks people for your help so far
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19 Feb 2018 12:53 |
If this is Harriett in 1871, the original shows her to be a Widow
Harriett b Bramham, Wilts, Albert b Bath Emma b Abergavenny
1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Victoria Street, Abergavenny, Monmouthshire, Wales
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Harriett Prosser Head - Female 43 1828 - Wiltshire, England Albert C Prosser Son - Male 18 1853 - Somerset, England Emma Prosser Daughter - Female 11 1860 - Monmouthshire, Wales Robert Prosser Nephew - Male 18 1853 - United States
------------------- Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: Order: PROSSER, EMMA BALLARD Order GRO Reference: 1859 J Quarter in ABERGAVENNY Volume 11A Page 57
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lancashireAnn
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19 Feb 2018 13:04 |
greyghost - thanks - I had forgotten that one - it is on a different page of my notes. Must organise this family better. I have not looked at this branch for over 6 years
I do have Emma's birth certificate as she is my great grandmother
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lancashireAnn
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19 Feb 2018 13:08 |
I would guess that Albert Prosser is Albert Charles Parsons Ballard born in district Bath in 1853 mmn Ballard
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greyghost
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19 Feb 2018 13:09 |
Albert b pre marriage (no mmn given)
Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: BALLARD, ALBERT CHARLES PARSONS - Order GRO Reference: 1852 J Quarter in BATH Volume 05C Page 737
PROSSER, HARRIET JANE BALLARD Order GRO Reference: 1854 D Quarter in MELKSHAM Volume 05A Page 105
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Chris Ho :)
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19 Feb 2018 13:09 |
If her below?...
Chris :)
Monmouthshire Merlin 17th February 1866
ABERGAVENNY. POLICE COURT, WEDNESDAY.—[Before C. Bailey, Esq.]—Mary Ann Jones, Harriett Prosser, and Ann Jones, frail sisters, were charged with indecently be- having themselves.-Prosser, who is an old offender, was sentenced to one month's imprisonment, hard…
http://newspapers.library.wales/search/advanced
(worth a look on above)
Monmouthshire Merlin 20th December 1870
ABERGAVENNY. EXTRAORDINARY CHARGE GF LIBEL.—At the Police Court, on Wednesday last, Isaac Prosser was charged with a libel on Mr. Jones...
Prosser Albert Charles Parsons 1852 — 1874 (17th August 1874) Yorkshire Marriages Doncaster, Christ Church, Yorkshire (West Riding), England (Find My Past) Father, Isaac Prosser, occ. Moulder)
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ErikaH
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19 Feb 2018 13:10 |
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First name(s) Harriet Last name Prosser Role Bride Age 42 Birth year 1829 Marital status w Year 1871 Marriage date 11 Sep 1871 Marriage place Llanwenarth Church, Llanwenarth Citra Spouse's first name(s) Thomas Spouse's last name Prosser Spouse's age 32 Spouse's marital status b Archive Gwent Archives / Archifau Gwent Volume - Date range 1863-1874 Record set Wales, Monmouthshire Marriage Notices 1859-1877 Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Parish Marriages Collections from Wales, Great Britain
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ErikaH
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19 Feb 2018 13:11 |
1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 52, Merthyr Road, Abergavenny, Monmouthshire, Wales
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Birth place Occupation Harriet Prosser Head Widow Female 53 1828 Bromham, Wiltshire, England Laundress Transcription Emma Prosser Daughter Single Female 21 1860 Abergavenny, Monmouthshire, Wales Laundress Transcription Thomas Prosser Boarder Single Male 44 1837 Brecknockshire, Wales Plasterer Transcription
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19 Feb 2018 13:12 |
Stated as widow 1881
1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 52, Merthyr Road, Abergavenny, Monmouthshire, Wales
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Birth place Occupation Harriet Prosser Head Widow Female 53 1828 Bromham, Wiltshire, England Laundress Emma Prosser Daughter Single Female 21 1860 Abergavenny, Monmouthshire, Wales Laundress Thomas Prosser Boarder Single Male 44 1837 Brecknockshire, Wales Plasterer
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lancashireAnn
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19 Feb 2018 13:16 |
There are so many Prosser families in the area, most of them with similar names.
I don't think the marriage to Thomas is the right one. I have Harriet, still a widow, in both 1881 and 1891. Though she does have a Thomas boarding with he but age 44 in 81 and 50 in 91!
Charles C - Harriet was a servant in bath in 1851
I suspect that the harriet in that article Chris is a different one, but who knows it might be right
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ErikaH
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19 Feb 2018 13:20 |
The 'marriage' isn't registered - the info above is a marriage 'notice'
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