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Hi everyone,
As you can see from the previous posts you’ve helped a lot.
You have the details of Charlottes death which is great, but I wondered what was her cause of death.
I sent all the details to GRO but they refunded my money so I assume they never found her death certificate, although they didn’t give any explanation.
I was wondering, as she died in the Workhouse, is there any other way I can find out cause of death?
Thanks
Glyn

Hi Glyn- did you order the death certificate using the volume and page numbers?

Death:
Name: Charlotte Beacham
Registration Year: 1863
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration district: Frome
Inferred County: Somerset
Volume: 5c <<<<<<<<
Page: 382<<<<<<<<<<<

AQ mentioned that William & Matilda were in Wales in 1881.

for our reference:

William Beacham
in the 1881 Wales Census
Name: William Beacham
Age: 62
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1819
Relation: Lodger
Gender: Male
Where born: Frome, Somerset, England
Civil Parish: Newport
County/Island: Monmouthshire
Country: Wales
Street address: 1 Merchant St
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education: View image
Employment status: View image
Occupation: Labourer
Registration district: Newport
Sub registration district: Newport
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors:
Piece: 5262
Folio: 65
Page Number: 22
Household Members:
William Beacham 62
Matilda Beacham 49

(And several other lodgers, plus householder, etc)


I'm looking for William & Matilda after 1881 (no luck yet) but just posting things as they appear.

Looks like Matilda in 1871, but no William:

Matilda Beauchamp
in the 1871 England Census
Name: Matilda Beauchamp
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1831
Relation: Boarder
Gender: Female
Where born: Frome, Somerset, England
Civil Parish: Frome
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
Town: Frome
County/Island: Somerset
Country: England
Registration district: Frome
Sub-registration district: Frome
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Household schedule number: 96
Piece: 2431
Folio: 13
Page Number: 17
Household Members:
Name Age
John Bishop 70
Matilda Bishop 69
Matilda Beauchamp 40 - married, pedlar


Found not guilty of larceny:

Matilda Hurd
in the England & Wales, Criminal Registers, 1791-1892
Name: Matilda Hurd
Age: 17
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1829
Date of Trial: 26 Oct 1846
Trial Year: 1846
Location of Trial: Somerset, England
Sentence: Acquittal


Aha!
Matilda's called Ellen in 1891:

William Beecham
in the 1891 Wales Census
Name: William Beecham
Age: 66
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1825
Relation: Lodger
Gender: Male
Where born: Frome, Somerset, England
Civil Parish: Ystradyfodwg
Town: Home Penrhys
County/Island: Glamorgan
Country: Wales
Street address: View image
Condition as to marriage: View image
Education: View image
Employment status: View image
Occupation: View image
Registration district: Pontypridd
Sub registration district: Ystradyfodwg
ED, institution, or vessel: 23
Neighbors:
Piece: 4425
Folio: 101
Page Number: 18
Household Members:
William Beecham 66 - labourer
Ellen Beecham 60 - Frome, hawker

(and many other lodgers)


Matilda's death ??

Deaths Dec 1893 (>99%)
Beecham Matilda 62 Pontypridd 11a 298


A slight possibility for William's death ???

Deaths Dec 1895 (>99%)
Basham William 70 Newport, M. 11a 105

Thanks Argyll Gran. That’s really good you found William and Matilda.
No Austin I didn’t, so thanks for that information. I’ll try again.
Brilliant both of you.
Glyn

Just having another look for Uriah - but in vain.

Charlotte and Mercy were both in the workhouse in 1851. I don't think Mercy has been transcribed on Ancestry - at least I don't see her - but a search of the 1851 image shows her listed.:

Charlotte Bridgman
in the 1851 England Census
Name: Charlotte Bridgman
Age: 36
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1815
Relation: Pauper
Gender: Female
Where born: Beckington, Somerset, England
Civil Parish: Frome
Ecclesiastical parish: Christ Church
Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps:
View related Ecclesiastical Parish
County/Island: Somerset
Country: England
Street address:
Registration district: Frome
Sub-registration district: Nunney
ED, institution, or vessel: Frome Union Workhouse
Neighbors:
Household schedule number: 1
Piece: 1932
Folio: 614
Page Number: 5


But there's no sign of Uriah with them, so presumably he died 1841-51.

There are three young Bridgman brothers in the workhouse, but they're a different family.

Yes I saw the other Bridgemans and wondered if they were related. I haven’t been able to find any relatives for Thomas Bridgeman so he may have had brothers who had children
That might explain why we can’t find Uriah, and why Charlotte was distraught when Mercy died as she was the last link to Thomas.
Thanks Argyll Gran

Those three Bridgman brothers in the workhouse had mms Toop.

I've come back to Charlotte and the Beauchamp/ Bridgeman connection after a few years.

So I have a few questions that I'm sure someone can find the answers.
Firstly how do Argyll Gran and others know the 3 Bridgeman boys in the workhouse are not related to Charlotte? I couldn't find any other adult Bridgemans listed as being in the workhouse when they were in there.
It appears William Beauchamp ( called Beacham) is there at the same time as Charlotte which may have been how they met and eventually married. There is a 4year old William Beecham also interested 1851 workhouse records. Would this be William Beechams son????
I know they eventually had my great gran Rhoda, born 1855. However, in 1853 Charlotte has a baby called Alfred on 3rd December. I can't find out anything else about this baby and what happens to him. Or whether William Beauchamp I'd his father or not.
Please can anyone help with any or all of these questions?

The post immediately before your last one has the apparent answer

Ah so must means Mothers Maiden Surname. Thanks Erika

Alfred was born late 1851 or early 1852:

BRIDGMAN, ALFRED -
GRO Reference: 1852 M Quarter in FROME Volume 05C Page 593

But baptised in 1853:

Alfred Bridgman
in the Somerset, England, Church of England Baptisms, 1813-1914
Name: Alfred Bridgman
Baptism Date: 30 Dec 1853
Baptism Place: Frome St John, Somerset, England
Parish as it Appears: Frome Selwood
Mother: Charlotte Bridgman


I can't see him later, either. Presumably he died, though I don't see any record of it.

There's no way of knowing who his father was.

Slight possibilities for the birth of the William Beecham in the workhouse in 1851:

BEACHIM, WILLIAM -
GRO Reference: 1847 J Quarter in FROME Volume 10 Page 390

BEACHIM, WILLIAM -
GRO Reference: 1847 S Quarter in FROME Volume 10 Page 333

Again, no way of knowing who his father was, nor what definitely became of him later.
There are a few possibilities in later censuses, but nothing definite.
Surname spellings are so varied, YOBs on censuses aren't always accurate, and birthplace sometimes just "Somerset".

Thanks Argyll Gran. You found out more than I did. A few more pieces of the puzzle added.

Re the two William Beachim birth records in 1847 -
as these were illegitimate births, Beachim (or variation) would be the mother's name, not the father's, and so unless the mother lied about her name, neither of them can be William Beauchamp's child.

Thank you. It gets complicated when there are somany people in the same area with the same name!!!

Hi I'm trying to find out more about Thomas Bridgeman's family to fill in the early years of marriage to Charlotte.
It seems that before Thomas was transported in 1841 for stealing sheep he had been in prison for 8 months for larceny in 1837. On the records it mentions Edward Bridgeman aged 17 whom I assume is Thomas brother, who was also imprisoned.
So I can't find any record of Thomas birth although he was born in 1817 and in Dilton Marsh according to the prison records. I can't find out who his parents were or anything about Edward Bridgeman. I know about his later life as you can see from this thread but not up to and the first year of his marriage to Charlotte which was in 1836 in Berkley
Can anyone else find anything please?

Ancestry suggests this is Edward's baptism:

Edward Bridgeman
in the Wiltshire, England, Church of England Births and Baptisms, 1813-1916
Name: Edward Bridgeman
Gender: Male
Baptism Date: 13 Aug 1826
Baptism Place: Dilton, Wiltshire, England
Father: John Bridgeman
Mother: Elizabeth Bridgeman


Thomas was baptised on the same day:

Thos Bridgeman
in the Wiltshire, England, Church of England Births and Baptisms, 1813-1916
Name: Thos Bridgeman
Gender: Male
Baptism Date: 13 Aug 1826
Baptism Place: Dilton, Wiltshire, England
Parish as it Appears: Dilton
Father: John Bridgeman
Mother: Elizabeth Bridgeman


Also two more children:

James Bridgeman
in the Wiltshire, England, Church of England Births and Baptisms, 1813-1916
Name: James Bridgeman
Gender: Male
Baptism Date: 13 Aug 1826
Baptism Place: Dilton, Wiltshire, England
Parish as it Appears: Dilton
Father: John Bridgeman
Mother: Elizabeth Bridgeman


John Bridgeman
in the Wiltshire, England, Church of England Births and Baptisms, 1813-1916
Name: John Bridgeman
Gender: Male
Baptism Date: 13 Aug 1826
Baptism Place: Dilton, Wiltshire, England
Parish as it Appears: Dilton
Father: John Bridgeman
Mother: Elizabeth Bridgeman

Possibly James, if he wasn't baptised until aged approx 10 - and perhaps his son?:

James Bridgman
in the 1851 England Census
Name: James Bridgman
Age: 35
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1816
Relation: Visitor
Gender: Male
Where Born: Dittons Marsh, Wiltshire, England
Civil Parish: Frome
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter
Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps:
View related Ecclesiastical Parish
County/Island: Somerset
Country: England
Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Disability:
View image
Registration District: Frome
Sub-registration District: Nunney
ED, institution, or vessel: 2h
Neighbors:
Household Schedule Number: 37
Piece: 1932
Folio: 385
Page Number: 10
Household Members:
Name Age
Daniel Davis 31
Hanah Davis 69
James Bridgman 13 - apprentice boot & shoe maker, Berkley, Somerset.
James Bridgman 35 - widower, agricultural labourer


A tree on Ancestry claims that James married Elizabeth Toop, who died in 1847.
That could make the three young Bridgman boys in Frome workhouse in 1851 his sons.

That makes sense and as it mentions Berkley, that's where Thomas met and married Charlotte a few years before.
Thanks for finding the family. Amazing. So Edward and Thomas were convicted of larceny and that was why Thomas was transported in 1841 because he had a previous conviction. I wonder if Edward suffered the same fate?
Great help Argyll Gran. Thank you

Can't see any definite sign of Edward after 1837.
Can't see his brother John apart from baptism.
Nor any definite record of the parents after 1826.

Possibly James in 1841:

James Bridgman
in the 1841 England Census
Name: James Bridgman
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1816
Gender: Male
Where Born: Somerset, England
Civil Parish: Berkeley
Hundred: Frome
County/Island: Somerset
Country: England
Street Address:
Occupation: Ag Lab
View image
Registration District: Frome
Sub-registration District: Road
Neighbors:
Piece: 942
Book: 2
Folio: 17
Page Number: 5
Household Members:
Name Age
James Bridgman 25
Elizabeth Bridgman 25
James Bridgman 3
John Bridgman 1