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MargaretM
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7 Jan 2018 10:45 |
An obit here for Ola Jean Kemp who died 2003. It mentions her sisters Marion Harris, Laura Englesdorfer and June Hamilton. It also says predeceased by sister Eilene Titus.
http://strathroy.denningfuneralhomes.com/tribute/details/2688/Ola-Kemp/obituary.html
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JoonieCloonie
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7 Jan 2018 10:55 |
Terrance's death notice at the Legion's Last Post site:
https://legionmagazine.com/en/last-post/?mode=entry&id=153346
Lance-Corporal Terrance M. TITUS Date Deceased: November 1st, 1994 Age: 75
Service Information Rank: Lance-Corporal Unit: Royal Canadian Army Service Corps Period of Service: World War II Service Numbers: A9039
Legion Branch Information Legion Branch: Caradoc Branch, Mount Brydges, Ontario, Canada Legion Title: Life member
You might find that the Legion would be helpful in passing contact info to a family member, if there are members remaining who knew Terrance.
https://www.facebook.com/RCL251/
2500 Veterans Drive Mount Brydges, Ontario N0L1W0 (519) 264-1580
Friday night's post: "Legion is closed. Friday Night Darts is cancelled. Due to the weather. Stay home and watch Team Canada play in the gold metal game." :-)
You can send a message via Facebook. (I'd make it brief with your email address, so as not to get stuck in Facebook's messaging thing!)
Strathroy and Mt Brydges are both small towns outside London, Ontario -- if Terrance and Eilene had children, they would most likely be in London or another larger centre.
... However, there are 2 Titus listings in Strathroy at present, and they must be fairly closely related at least:
http://www.canada411.ca/search/?stype=si&what=titus&where=London%2C+ON
(last two in the list)
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ArgyllGran
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7 Jan 2018 11:47 |
It does look as if whoever wrote Vera Hamilton's obit just listed the sisters, and assumed they were all still alive.
But the suggestion still stands - the funeral home could maybe put you in touch with the family.
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Eringobragh1916
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7 Jan 2018 11:52 |
Eileen Have you established if Terence and Constance ever divorced ?...
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Eileen
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7 Jan 2018 11:56 |
Yes - I agree Margaret - I need to get my head round it all , which isn't easy at my age (80) !
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Eileen
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7 Jan 2018 11:59 |
Erin - No I haven't , but I will chat to Valerie today and ask her - thanks for the prompt !
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JoonieCloonie
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7 Jan 2018 14:29 |
You saw the info about the Legion, Eileen ... ?
Just for info, this is the inscription on Terrance's headstone:
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/185099130/terrence-micheal-titus
Terrence Micheal Titus (yes, all spelt that way) 1919-1994
This is him with his family in the 1921 census (free to search at Ancestry)
Charles Fatus 44 laborer May Fatus 37 Cecilia Fatus 13 Patrick Fatus 10 Clarence Fatus 7 Ruth Fatus 4 Terrence Fatus 2
(Ancestry's transcriptions of Canadian censuses are about as bad as it gets.)
In Woodstock, another town close to Ingersoll, near London.
I would try finding marriages for siblings, but I am so tired of getting familysearch's "We are unable to display search results due to technical difficulties. Please try searching again in a few minutes." yet again that I might throw my monitor through a window the next time.
FindAGrave has a memorial for a Charles born 1903 buried in Ingersoll who I would suspect is an older brother, https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/180449887/charles-henry-titus
No; a different one -- familysearch finally responds.
1911 census:
Charles Titus Head M 35 Ontario May Titus Wife F 33 Ontario Maud Titus Daughter F 3 Ontario Charles Titus Son M 0 Ontario (born Charles Kennedy Titus)
Cecilia married Joseph Edgar Beswarick, 1925. For the rest, no luck.
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ArgyllGran
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7 Jan 2018 14:38 |
Patrick Titus in the Ontario, Canada, Deaths and Deaths Overseas, 1869-1946 Name: Patrick Titus (married) Gender: Male Age: 25 Birth Date: abt 1911 (image says 20 May 1911 ) Birth Place: Ontario Death Date: 14 Nov 1936 Death Place: Bruce, Ontario, Canada Father: Charles Titus Mother: Mary Jane Kennedy Informant: his mother. Cause of death: Exposure in water after boat had sunk off Pointe au Barques [ Lake Huron, Michigan ]. Body was found in the water about one mile north of Saugeen river.
Mr Patrick Charles Titus in the Michigan, Marriage Records, 1867-1952 Name: Mr Patrick Charles Titus Gender: Male Race: White Birth Year: abt 1911 Birth Place: Ontario Marriage Date: 5 Nov 1935 Marriage Place: Port Huron, St Clair, Michigan, USA License County: St Clair Age: 24 Residence Place: Sarnia, Ontario, Canada Father: Charles Titus Mother: Mary J Kennedy Spouse: Rose Helen Brooks County File Number: 24345 State File Number: 77 5304 Film: 212 Film Title: 77 St. Clair 2720-5999 Film Description: St Clair (1930 - 1936)
EDIT:
A tree on Ancestry says Patrick was actually Charles Patrick Kennedy Titus, and the same person as the "wrong" Charles mentioned above by JC.
So Charles in 1911 census isn't wrong - he's the same person as Patrick in 1921.
Charles Kennedy Titus in the Ontario, Canada Births, 1858-1913 Name: Charles Kennedy Titus Date of Birth: 20 May 1911 Gender: Male Birth Place: Wellington, Ontario, Canada Father's name: Charles Titus Mother's name: May Kennedy
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JoonieCloonie
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7 Jan 2018 14:56 |
Ah interesting, and tragic, a week before first wedding anniversary.
Cecilia's husband was actually named Edgar Joseph Beswarick at birth. There are records of an Edgar Beswarick in a 1946 crew list in Minnesota, Duluth and Wisconsin, Superior Crew Lists on the Viscount Bennett (so obviously a Canadian vessel).
I wonder whether Patrick also worked on the Great Lakes. And whether the sinking was newsworthy. Ancestry shows only 4 other deaths on that date, 3 women and 1 man, but I can't see details.
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MargaretM
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7 Jan 2018 15:29 |
Marriage of Terrance's sister Ruth?
Ruth Jessie Marie Titus in the Ontario, Canada, Marriages, 1801-1935 Name: Ruth Jessie Marie Titus Gender: Female Age: 18 Birth Year: abt 1916 Birth Place: Ingersoll. Ontario. Residence: 235 Chippewa St. Sarnia Ontario. Marriage Date: 27 Feb 1934 Marriage Place: Sarnia, Lambton, Ontario, Canada Father: Charles Titus Mother: May Titus Spouse: Martiems John Smit
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Eileen
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7 Jan 2018 15:37 |
Oh Joannie - only just seen your post - thank you so much. That is marvelous ... Ha ha - the info is coming fast and furious now and I can't believe how everyone is so willing to help me !! The info all looks very promising and I will be kept busy sorting it all for Val. Her Dad Terry was just a name to her and when I found his grave headstone pic she was so excited because she saidhe suddenly became a real person to her. I'm hoping somehow to find she has half-siblings who are still alive .... she would be over the moon! Thank you to everyone !
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ArgyllGran
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7 Jan 2018 15:40 |
Owen Sound, ON (Lake Huron) Motorship HIBOU Sinks, Nov 1936 ... https://www.gendisasters.com/.../owen-sound-on-lake-huron-motorship-hibou-sinks-n... Owen Sound, ON (Lake Huron) Motorship HIBOU Sinks, Nov 1936. Submitted by Stu Beitler ... The vessel, a steel bottomed 100-foot remodelled tug from Detroit, cleared this port at 4:30 a.m. today and is believed to have sunk within half an hour off Squaw Point four miles north of here. MISS JOHNSON was the only woman ...
(Can't open this - site currently not available, apparently.)
The Last Trip of the Season Saturday, November 21, 1936 steamboatstories.ca/hibou.pdf The Sinking of the Hibou. THE SETTING FOR A TRAGEDY. O n November 21, 1936 the 121.8 foot freight and passenger steamer Hibou sank just a few kilometers NNE of the port of Owen Sound. Seven members of her crew of seventeen went down with her. Two of those bodies were never recovered. Unlike most ...
(Can't open this one either !) EDIT: Yes, It has opened - it's a 24-page PDF file.
The "Hibou" was a car ferry which also carried cargo. Patrick's not listed as a crew member, so presumably was a passenger.
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Eileen
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7 Jan 2018 15:43 |
Margaret & Argyll. -I can't thank you enough ... you've given me so much to explore. For some reason, I don't seem to have access to any of this with my Ancestry subscription - only the records for when Terrence was here in uk in the army.
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Eileen
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7 Jan 2018 15:45 |
Joannie - the Legion/ army records are particularly interesting and useful and I will explore further .... thank you
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Eringobragh1916
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7 Jan 2018 19:09 |
? Marriage of Charles Titus and Mary Jane Kennedy
From Family Search.org....looks like 1905 Marriages from Film Reel
Charles L Titus mentioned in the record of Charles L Titus and Mary Jane Kennedy
Name Charles L Titus. Laborer. Residence : looks like Ingersol Event Type Marriage Event Place , Oxford, Ontario, Canada Gender Male Age 29 Father's Name Henry Titus Mother's Name Ann Talbot Spouse's Name Mary Jane Kennedy Residence : Mattawa Spouse's Gender Female Spouse's Age 24 Spouse's Father's Name Patrick Kennedy Spouse's Mother's Name Jane Egan
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Eringobragh1916
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7 Jan 2018 19:50 |
From Familysearch.org...1901 Census for Patrick Kennedy snr and Jane Egan.... Patrick Senior is on separate page...
Name Patrick Kennedy (jnr) Event Type Census Event Date 31 Mar 1901 Event Place Nipissing, Ontario, Canada Gender Male Age 22 Marital Status Single Nationality Canadian Ethnicity Irish Religion Roman Catholic Relationship to Head of Household (Original) Son Birth Year (Estimated) 1879 Birthplace Ontario Page 8
Household
Role
Sex
Age
Birthplace
Jane Kennedy Wife F 50 Ontario John Kennedy Son M 26 Qc Tun Kennedy Son M 24 Ontario Patrick Kennedy Son M 22 Ontario Mary Kennedy Daughter F 20 Ontario Lornie Kennedy Son M 18 Ontario Cecila Kennedy Daughter F 16 Ontario Daniel Kennedy Son M 15 Ontario Terrance Kennedy Son M 13 Ontario Martin Kennedy Son M 12 Ontario
All the childrens Birth Marriages etc are to be found on Family Search... You will be there forever...
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Eileen
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7 Jan 2018 22:49 |
Erin - I am most grateful for all the info - I'm looking forward to being occupied with looking them all up on Family Search ! I didn't manage to talk with Val today but hoping to do so tomorrow. - she will be thrilled! Off to bed now ...????????
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JoonieCloonie
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9 Jan 2018 03:57 |
Until I get my Ancestry sub renewed, anybody want to look at these results on the Canada voters' lists?
https://search.ancestry.ca/search/db.aspx?dbid=2983 or https://search.ancestry.co.uk/search/db.aspx?dbid=2983
depending on where your sub is
Terrance Titus 1958 Middlesex, Ontario Terrance Titus 1972 Middlesex, Ontario Terrence Titus 1965 Middlesex, Ontario Terrence Titus 1957 Middlesex, Ontario
It's possible that there would be a voting-aged adult child in the household in 1972 (the last available).
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Eileen
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9 Jan 2018 09:11 |
Thank you Joonie. I couldn't chat with Val yesterday as she was out but she's phoning me today. The info I'm really looking for is any clues to Terrence and Eilene's children - the nearest of which seems to have been the Voters ref 1972 posted by ArgyllGran which names likely sons Charles and Ronald. The address is RRI Mt Bridges, which after I googled it, turns out to be Rangeland Research Institute.
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Eileen
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9 Jan 2018 09:17 |
I also would love to know when Terrence and Eilene married. Val says she doesn't know the year of her parents divorce. I will try to find in the uk records.
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