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What a wonderful result! Congratulations Eileen and Sherry!

Hi Sherry - fortunately Genes reunited notify me of replies , so. I’ve just received both your messages and my thanks too to ArgyllGran! Marvelous!! Eileen

Thank you, ArgyllGran!

Welcome to the boards, Sherry.

Although it's only nine months since the last post on this thread, Eileen may not be looking here for more replies now, and may not see your post.

Try sending her a private message - click on her name at the top of one of her posts.

GR will send her notification that there's a message from you in the system, and hopefully she will see that and respond.

She may reply to you on here, so keep looking at this thread.
Or she may reply to you directly by email, via GR..

Hi Eileen

I am the granddaughter of the Terrence Michael Titus who was born in Ingersoll, Ontario in 1919 and who died in 1994. We found out at a family Thanksgiving dinner last night that my grandfather had been previously married in England during the war. My aunt was going through some old papers that she had found, and she shared that info with us last night. I found your thread when I googled his first wife’s name in addition to his and the year they were married. One of his papers had her address in East Grinstead, Sussex.

My grandparents had 7 children, six of whom are still living. Grampa never talked about the war years, and my dad, uncles and aunt had no idea that they had two older half-siblings. My dad is the second eldest, and he turns 70 this year.

Looking forward to hearing from you,
Sherry

Thank you mgnv - I've actually got some of this same info by contacting someone with a Family Tree on Ancestry who'd listed Charles Titus before I lost internet connection last thurs - He's descrnded from his wife Ann altha Talbot . I had new router today so only just able to acknowledge your very kind help!

I know you're more interested in Terry's descendents, but here's the easily accessible free stuff on his ancestors:

Using http://automatedgenealogy.com/census/index.html
1911 Census of Canada
Home / 1911 / Ontario / Oxford South / 26 Oxford West / page 9
10 99 Titus Charles M Head M Aug 1876 34
11 99 Titus May F Wife M May 1878 33
12 99 Titus Maud F Daughter S Feb 1908 3
13 99 Titus Charles M Son S Apr 1911 1/12
http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1911/pdf/e002010961.pdf

Next page:
1911 Census of Canada
Home / 1911 / Ontario / Oxford South / 26 Oxford West / page 10
19 115 Titus Henry M Head M Nov 1848 62
20 115 Titus Altha F Wife M May 1852 59
21 115 Titus Ella F Daughter S Aug 1891 19
22 115 Titus Ettie F Daughter S Aug 1893 17
23 115 Titus Maud F Daughter S Aug 1887 23
24 115 Titus Thomas M Son S May 1879 32
25 115 Titus James M Son S May 1881 30
26 115 Titus William M Son S Aug 1885 25
http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1911/pdf/e002010962.pdf


1901 Census of Canada Page Information
District: ON OXFORD (South/Sud) (#102)
Subdistrict: Oxford (West/Ouest) I-2 Page 7
etails: Schedule 1 Microfilm T-6490
31 80 Titus Henry M Head M Nov 18 1847 53
32 80 Titus Altha F Wife M May 28 1852 59
33 80 Titus Martha F Daughter S Jun 16 1873 27
34 80 Titus Charles M Son S Aug 15 1875 25
35 80 Titus Robert M Son S Aug 10 1877 23
36 80 Titus John M Son S May 18 1879 21
37 80 Titus James M Son S May 19 1880 20
38 80 Titus Mamie F Daughter S May 12 1883 17
39 80 Titus Willard M Son S Aug 20 1885 15
40 80 Titus Mandy F Daughter S Aug 2 1887 13
41 80 Titus Lottie F Daughter S Aug 29 1889 11
42 80 Titus Ella F Daughter S Aug 4 1891 9
43 80 Titus Esther F Daughter S Aug 2 1893 7
[Everyone has pob=O (i.e., Ontario)]
Using http://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/census/Pages/census.aspx
http://data2.collectionscanada.ca/1901/z/z002/pdf/z000093687.pdf
Sched 2 http://data2.collectionscanada.ca/1901/z/z002/pdf/z000093678.pdf

Using http://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/census/Pages/census.aspx
1891 http://central.bac-lac.gc.ca/.item/?app=Census1891&op=pdf&id=30953_148162-00201
1881 http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/e/e328/e008195695.pdf
1871 http://data2.collectionscanada.ca/1871/pdf/4396745_00344.pdf



Using https://familysearch.org/search/collection/list#page=1®ion=CANADA

Ontario Births, 1869-1912 [with image links]
Chas https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FMCM-13P
U Jas https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FM36-SHY

Ontario Marriages, 1869-1927 [with image links]
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KZ13-R2K [also check following image]
[We see Chas was a methodist, and May/Mary was an RC - so their might be an Ontario Drouin record for her baptism]





Anyone in Canada can search 1921 and get images, transcriptions for free, but only via:
http://search.ancestry.ca/search/db.aspx?dbid=8991
Don't let Ancestry bounce you to another of their sites - I don't know about access from outside of Canada - I'll Pm you a copy of JC's 1921 image

I do agree Joonie , re - personal details, but felt it relevant for gathering the right info and not following false trails - it's a sort of 'need to know'. Of course, now things are getting a little too sensitive I think!

Eileen, you wouldn't be able to find a marriage record in Ontario, as they are not publicly available for that period.

It's possible that he obtained a divorce in Ontario, claiming he didn't know where she was in order to serve her, for instance. He might have had to prove grounds.

I don't imagine the Eilene who married Terrance was the Toronto one. Too much distance and difference. And Norma Wilson would have been a not uncommon name.

I'm getting a little leery of the personal details being posted here, incuding of people who may not be directly related, and perhaps even more so of people who are, if Terrance did have kids. Some of it might want to be deleted once it's all sorted.

I'm going to see what I might come up with for Eileen and Val this weekend and will report back.

MargaretM - so far there's no sign of another marriage record in Canada. (Also, not sure, but there may be other Eilene's in her family with same spelling ).... could be a can of worms ?

I wondered if that was the case, Eileen. I'm sure it happened more than once. Perhaps he never married Eilene who spelled her name wrong knowing that it would be illegal.

Have now discovered that Terrance and Constance Titus never divorced!

Thank you Argyll ... I'm not too fussed about Norma Eilene Wilson's info as not Val's blood family - but very keen on the Titus side of things , but of course I will save this info too. I can't thank you enough for your generous time !

John & Elizabeth Wilson from that 1928 travel record are on the 1921 census, at the address John was at in 1928.
He was a store-keeper, per both the 1921 census and the 1928 street directory.

There was at least one other Norma Wilson about the same age in Toronto.
There's a 1945 university yearbook entry for one, who was a dental nurse.

[Record deleted from here, as maybe still alive.]

Could be the same person, of course - just because the one who married Terrence was a cook in 1972 doesn't mean she couldn't have been a dental nurse when younger!

That must be her Argyll because her maiden name was Wilson (on the gravestone). Again - thank you so much ....

???
Maybe , although her age is a couple of years out ???


Norma E Wilson
in the Canadian Passenger Lists, 1865-1935
Name: Norma E Wilson
Gender: Female
Age: 4
Birth Year: abt 1924
Birth Country: Canada (Toronto)
Date of Arrival: 6 Oct 1928
Vessel: Antonia
Port of Arrival: Quebec, Canada
Port of Departure: Belfast, Northern Ireland

Travelling with her mother Elizabeth A Wilson, 37, born Belfast.

Going to husband/father Mr John Wilson, Coxwell Ave, Toronto.
Elizabeth had lived in Canada before, 1918 - 1928

Elizabeth's parents: Mr & Mrs William Gardiner, [address deleted ] Belfast.

Many, many thanks again Argyll and Joonie. - I wait in excited anticipation !! ??

I'm doing a little looking around for Eileen behind the scenes, especially with what ArgyllGran has found here, so if you will give me a day or two, I'll see what I come up with for her. Sorry to be cryptic, but I may have a line on a connection and shouldn't really put details here.

Aargh, I complete missed the voters list info AG posted on page 1!

Great minds, only mine was awfully slow this time. :-)