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Member Since: May 2003 Posts: 858 Send Message	Marcus	Report	28 Oct 2017 13:12
Member Since: May 2003 Posts: 858 Send Message	Looking for George Cole b1833 Bethnal Green from 1871 onwards. For reference:- Parents are James Cole & Ann Cole (Nee Allen). Sibling are - Maria 1816, Mary Ann 1817, James 1819, Eliza 1820, Elizabeth 1822, James 1824, William 1828 & John 1830. All born, I think in the Bethnal Green & Shoreditch area of East London/Middlesex. I have George in 1841 & 1851 living with parents and a few siblings, aged 7 & 18 respectively. George is listed as a Silk Weaver!! In 1861 I have a George Cole aged 25, a Silk Weaver, married to Mary Ann, Son George, and daughters Mary A. Matthew, Elizabeth Matthew & Julia Matthew. All born Bethnal Green. Question - are these 'Daughters' from Mary's previous marriage? If so, who was here previously married to?? Also where is George & Mary 1871 onwards?? Any clues??
Member Since: October 2004 Posts: 8,837 Send Message	malyon	Report	28 Oct 2017 13:28
	England and Wales Census, 1851 Name George Cole Event Type Census Event Date 1851 Event Place Saint Leonard Shoreditch, Middlesex, England Registration District Shoreditch Residence Note Dove Row Gender Male Age 18 Marital Status Unmarried Occupation Silk Weaver Relationship to Head of Household Son Birth Year (Estimated) 1833 Birthplace Bethnal Green, Middlesex Page Number 4 Registration Number HO107 Piece/Folio 1538 / 194 Affiliate Record Type Household Household Role Sex Age Birthplace James Cole Head M 53 Bethnal Green, Middlesex Ann Cole Wife F 55 Bethnal Green, Middlesex John Cole Son M 20 Bethnal Green, Middlesex George Cole Son M 18 Bethnal Green, Middlesex
Member Since: June 2007 Posts: 31,288 Send Message	PricklyHolly	Report	28 Oct 2017 13:28
	For information.... 1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 5, Bath Street, Bethnal Green, London & Middlesex, England George Cole Head Married Male 25 1836 Silk Weaver Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England Transcription Mary A Cole Wife Married Female 26 1835 - Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England Transcription Mary A Matthews Daughter - Female 8 1853 - Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England Transcription Elizabeth Matthews Daughter - Female 8 1853 - Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England Transcription Julia Matthews Daughter - Female 3 1858 - Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England Transcription George Cole Son - Male 0 1861 - Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England
	Researching: "If I don't see you through the week.........I will see you through the window". :o))
Member Since: December 2004 Posts: 24,447 Send Message	Dea	Report	28 Oct 2017 13:37
	The mother's maiden name for Mary Ann + Elizabeth was Johnson: Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: Order: MATTHEWS, ELIZABETH JOHNSON Order GRO Reference: 1853 J Quarter in BETHNAL GREEN Volume 01C Page 290 Order MATTHEWS, MARY ANN JOHNSON Order GRO Reference: 1853 J Quarter in BETHNAL GREEN Volume 01C Page 290 Dea x Also the same for Julia: MATTHEWS, JULIA CAROLINE JOHNSON Order GRO Reference: 1857 S Quarter in BETHNAL GREEN Volume 01C Page 281 Order Dea x
Member Since: December 2004 Posts: 24,447 Send Message	Dea	Report	28 Oct 2017 13:41
	This looks a likely marriage for Mary Ann? Marriages Sep 1852 (>99%) Erly Elizabeth Bethnal Green 1c 521 Scan available - click to view Johnson Mary Ann Bethnal Gn. 1c 521 Scan available - click to view Matthews William Bethnal Green 1c 521 Scan available - click to view Rönner Diederich Bethnal Green 1c 521 Scan available - click to view Dea x
Member Since: June 2007 Posts: 31,288 Send Message	PricklyHolly	Report	28 Oct 2017 13:45
	I am wondering if this might be the same family in 1871 ?? 1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Scott Street, Bethnal Green, London & Middlesex, England A bit odd with father George though! George Barrell Head - Male Bricklayer 28 1843 - Middlesex, England Transcription Mary A Mathews Wife - Female 35 1836 - Middlesex, England Transcription Julia Mathews Daughter - Female 13 1858 - Middlesex, England Transcription George Mathews Son - Male 10 1861 - Middlesex, England Transcription Agnes Mathews Daughter - Female 4 1867 - Middlesex, England Transcription Harriet Mathews Daughter - Female 0 1871 - Middlesex, England One of the witnesses on Julia's marriage record was an Agnes Matthews. Julia Caroline Matthews in the London, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1931 Name: Julia Caroline Matthews Gender: Female Marriage Age: 26 Record Type: Marriage Birth Date: abt 1857 Marriage Date: 25 Mar 1883 Marriage Place: St Jude, Bethnal Green, Tower Hamlets, England Father: William Matthews (Deceased) Twine Spinner Spouse: Alfred Richard Willis Register Type: Parish Register Witnesses: James Clay and Agnes Matthews
	Researching: "If I don't see you through the week.........I will see you through the window". :o))
Member Since: June 2007 Posts: 31,288 Send Message	PricklyHolly	Report	28 Oct 2017 13:47
	??? Marriages Sep 1852 (>99%) Johnson Mary Ann Bethnal Gn. 1c 521 Matthews William Bethnal Green 1c 521
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Member Since: June 2007 Posts: 31,288 Send Message	PricklyHolly	Report	28 Oct 2017 13:52
	MATTHEWS, AGNES MMN JOHNSON GRO Reference: 1867 M Quarter in BETHNAL GREEN Volume 01C Page 265 MATTHEWS, HARRIET MMN JOHNSON GRO Reference: 1870 D Quarter in BETHNAL GREEN Volume 01C Page 283
	Researching: "If I don't see you through the week.........I will see you through the window". :o))
Member Since: June 2007 Posts: 31,288 Send Message	PricklyHolly	Report	28 Oct 2017 13:58
	?? 1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Eastman Street, Bethnal Green, London & Middlesex, England George Matthews Head Married Male 48 1843 Stinerant Musician London, Middlesex, England Transcription Mary A Matthews Wife Married Female 55 1836 - London, Middlesex, England Transcription Agnes Matthews Daughter Single Female 24 1867 Seamstress Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England Transcription Harriet Matthews Daughter Single Female 20 1871 Machinist London, Middlesex, England
	Researching: "If I don't see you through the week.........I will see you through the window". :o))
Member Since: October 2004 Posts: 8,837 Send Message	malyon	Report	28 Oct 2017 14:00
	this looks like mary ann in 1871 with another man so she did not marry George cole Julia Mathews England and Wales Census, 1871 Name Julia Mathews Event Type Census Event Date 1871 Event Place Bethnal Green, London, Middlesex, England Enumeration District 5 Gender Female Age 13 Marital Status Single Occupation Lucifer Box Maker Relationship to Head of Household Daughter Birth Year (Estimated) 1858 Birthplace Bethnal Green, Middlesex Entry Number 10 Affiliate Image Identifier GBC/1871/0492/0094 Household Role Sex Age Birthplace George Barrell Head M 28 Mile End, Middlesex Mary A Mathews Wife F 35 Bethnal Green, Middlesex Julia Mathews Daughter F 13 Bethnal Green, Middlesex George Mathews Son M 10 Bethnal Green, Middlesex Agnes Mathews Daughter F 4 Bethnal Green, Middlesex Harriet Mathews Daughter F 0 Bethnal Green, Middlesex harriet and agnes mother name Johnson MATTHEWS, HARRIET JOHNSON GRO Reference: 1870 D Quarter in BETHNAL GREEN Volume 01C Page 283 MATTHEWS, AGNES JOHNSON GRO Reference: 1867 M Quarter in BETHNAL GREEN Volume 01C Page 265
Member Since: December 2004 Posts: 24,447 Send Message	Dea	Report	28 Oct 2017 14:04
	Name: William Matthew Gender: Male Record Type: Marriage Marriage Date: 5 Sep 1852 Marriage Place: St Andrew, Bethnal Green, Tower Hamlets, England Father: William Matthew Spouse: Mary Ann Johnson Register Type: Parish Register Dea x
Member Since: June 2007 Posts: 31,288 Send Message	PricklyHolly	Report	28 Oct 2017 14:08
	H'mmmm :-S I don't know if i am on the right track here.... ?? Agnes Barrell in the 1881 England Census Name: Agnes Barrell Age: 14 Estimated birth year: abt 1867 Relationship to Head: Daughter Father: George Barrell Mother: Mary A. Barrell Gender: Female Where born: Bethnal Green Civil Parish: Mile End Old Town County/Island: London Country: England Street address: No1 George Pla Brady St Bethl Green Education: Employment status: View image Occupation: No Occupation Registration district: Mile End Old Town ED, institution, or vessel: 14 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 481 Folio: 31 Page Number: 55 Household Members: Name Age George Barrell 38 (Bricklayer) Mary A. Barrell 45 Agnes Barrell 14 Harriet Barrell 11
	Researching: "If I don't see you through the week.........I will see you through the window". :o))
Member Since: June 2007 Posts: 31,288 Send Message	PricklyHolly	Report	28 Oct 2017 14:19
	They appear as Matthews on the 1901 census. 1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Block 1, 4, Eastman Street, Bethnal Green, London & Middlesex, England George Matthews Head Married Male 58 1843 Street Musician Mile End, Middlesex, England Transcription Mary Matthews Wife Married Female 66 1835 Street Musician Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England Transcription Agnes Matthews Daughter Single Female 34 1867 Needle Hand Clothing Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England ?? 1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 4 Eastman St Bethnal Green, Bethnal Green, London & Middlesex, England George Matthews Husband Marrid Male House Decorator 68 1843 Mile End London Transcription Mary Ann Matthews Wife Married Female Weaver Silk 76 1835 Bethnal Gn London Married 45 years....2 children born and living
	Researching: "If I don't see you through the week.........I will see you through the window". :o))
Member Since: December 2004 Posts: 24,447 Send Message	Dea	Report	28 Oct 2017 14:25
	Well, you do 'seem' to be on the right track Prickles though there are several name changes and occupation changes which is very confusing !! :-S Dea x
Member Since: June 2007 Posts: 31,288 Send Message	PricklyHolly	Report	28 Oct 2017 14:35
	I can't cope! :-S :-D
	Researching: "If I don't see you through the week.........I will see you through the window". :o))
Member Since: June 2007 Posts: 31,288 Send Message	PricklyHolly	Report	28 Oct 2017 14:39
	I am wondering if Mary Ann moved on from George Cole after the 1861 census. And she then moved on to a George Barrell? She didn't marry George Barrell......but because of her children, he took on the surname of Matthews? Pure speculation of course!
	Researching: "If I don't see you through the week.........I will see you through the window". :o))
Member Since: December 2004 Posts: 24,447 Send Message	Dea	Report	28 Oct 2017 15:14
	George Barrell was already married: Name: George Barrell - Bricklayer. 3a John St. Gender: Male Marriage Age: 22 Record Type: Marriage Birth Date: abt 1841 Marriage Date: 12 Oct 1863 Marriage Place: St Dunstan and All Saints, Stepney, Tower Hamlets, England Father: Charles Barrell - Bricklayer Spouse: Ann Nathan - fr. Lewis Nathan - solicitor Register Type: Parish Register Dea x
Member Since: May 2003 Posts: 858 Send Message	Marcus	Report	28 Oct 2017 15:19
Member Since: May 2003 Posts: 858 Send Message	Thanks for all your replies...... I am confused as to who married / did not marry who!! I have found a few possible deaths for George Cole 1861 - 1877. 2 for Bethnal Green, 2 for Poplar, 1 for Whitechapel, 1 for St. Olave and 1 for Hackney. That is assuming George died in this time period. If not, then where is he??
Member Since: October 2004 Posts: 8,837 Send Message	malyon	Report	28 Oct 2017 15:33
	George Cole England and Wales Death Registration Index 1837-2007 Name George Cole Event Type Death Registration Quarter Jan-Feb-Mar Registration Year 1877 Registration District Hackney County London Event Place Hackney, London, England Age (available after 1866) 44 Birth Year (Estimated) 1833 Volume 1B Page 387 Line Number 262
Member Since: October 2004 Posts: 8,837 Send Message	malyon	Report	28 Oct 2017 15:36
	George Cole England and Wales Marriage Registration Index Name George Cole Event Type Marriage Registration Quarter Oct-Nov-Dec Registration Year 1850 Registration District Bethnal Green County London Event Place Bethnal Green, London, England Volume 2 Page 14 Line Number 28 George Cole probably married one of the following people Name Amos Buckley Name William James Mitchell Name Celia Murrell Name Elizabeth Newland Name Thomas Norcott Name Ann Silverside Name Caroline Wren

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