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Hiya, crumbs with all these variants its been fun trying to track down the Frizzell tree.

So grandad George Alexander Lever Frizzell born Greenock, 1920 died 1966 turned into a very interesting success story resulting in the MoD sending me my grandad's ww2 service medals.

His dad was another success story, Hugh Frizzel born 1884 born Greenock died 1944. His service records for his service in ww1 still existed! Thanks to a cousin i met on this site I actually got several photos of him, one of his marriage in 1904 and several others of his in his kilt from his time in the Argyll & Sutherland Highlanders.

Hugh's dad James Frizzel transpires to be Irish, so records from the Scottish Peoples Record are a bit more sketchy to find. I discovered him on the 1891 census records via his wife Hessie Frizzel (Brown) and also his death record also 1891. There's also a record for his marriage 1884 Greenock.

Its been suggested that my great grandfather Hugh Frizzell was therefore orphaned and sent to Canada as a quarry boy? Where would i locate those records?

For reference, here's Laird's previous very long thread about this family:

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1354196?page=0

It's probably easier to add you new query to the old thread, Laird, to keep everything together.

For helpers' reference -
the 1891 census with Hugh and his parents was posted by Glasgowlass on page three of that thread.

Hugh Frizzel

in the UK, Outward Passenger Lists, 1890-1960
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Name: Hugh Frizzel
Gender: Male
Age: 11
Birth Date: abt 1885
Departure Date: 3 Apr 1896
Port of Departure: Glasgow, Scotland
Destination Port: New York, USA
Ship Name: State of Nebraska
Search Ship Database: Search for the State of Nebraska in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping line: Allan Line And State Line
Master: John Brown

all children on board

Hugh Frizzel

in the Canadian Passenger Lists, 1865-1935
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Name: Hugh Frizzel
Gender: Male
Age: 11
Birth Year: abt 1885
Date of Arrival: 14 Apr 1896
Vessel: State of Nebraska
Search Ship Database: Search for the State of Nebraska in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Port of Arrival: Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada
Port of Departure: Glasgow, Scotland and Moville, Ireland

I haven't re-read all the old thread yet - but on page 3 it seems we decided Hugh had married in Greenock in 1904 - to Christina Sutherland.

Is that a different Hugh from the one who went to Canada?

EDIT:
On page 4 of the old thread, Glasgowlass suggests they are the same person, and that Hugh (who she says is in Toronto in 1901) must have returned before 1904, but no record found.

Copied from the other thread :

Item: Hugh FRIZZEL
Given Name(s): Hugh
Surname: FRIZZEL
Age: 11
Gender: M
Ship: STATE OF NEBRASKA
Port of Departure: Glasgow
Date of Departure: 1896-04-03
Port of Arrival: Halifax
Date of Arrival: 1896-04-14
Year of Arrival: 1896
Party: Quarrier's Orphan Homes of Scotland <<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Destination: Brockville, Ontario
Comments: 132 children
Type of Records: Passenger Lists
Microfilm Reel Number: C-4517
Children travelling together: H96BD
Source: Library and Archives Canada
Reference: RG 76 C1b
Item Number: 43658


By "quarry boy", do you mean that he was with Quarrier's Homes?

https://quarriers.org.uk/about-us/history/


https://quarriers.org.uk/about-us/genealogy/

Re the Quarrier's Home at Brockville, Obtario -

https://tinyurl.com/yde742hm


Apparently records re Brockville were destroyed, but a copy of a child's Scottish record can be applied for..

Is this Hugh on the 1901 Canadian census?


Hugh Frizzell
in the 1901 Census of Canada
Name:
Hugh Frizzell
Gender:
Male
Marital Status:
Single
Age:
17
Birth Day & Month:
25 Jul
Birth Year:
1883
Birthplace:
Scotland
Relation to Head of House:
Laborer
Immigration Year:
1896
Racial or Tribal Origin:
Irish
Religion:
Methodist
Province:
Ontario
District:
Lanark (north/nord)

Household Members:

William J Graham 43
Elizabeth S Graham 38
Lucy B Graham 11
Jennie S Graham 9
Emma R Graham 5
Rena C Graham 3
Ehaka S Graham 2
Hugh Frizzell 17

Crossed eyed first time ...no change 2nd time around....
Re Hugh ...(ArgylGran 16.06.today)

B/F from old thread.(My Posting...)

Have found this relating to Hugh Frizzell husband to Christina..He was employed on the Railway and can only assume the Ref.is Greenock District.....So he needed to have come back from Canada before May1902

Hugh Frizzell Record from RailScot.

12.05.1902 Greenock. Porter. aged 18 GD1/573/2
9.01.1905 Greenock Transferred to Traffic Inspectors Dept. GD1/573/2
5.01.1920 Greenock Carter GD1/573/2

Have you joined the BHC site on Facebook

Lots of knowledgeable people on there who live in Canada and can point you to Canadian records

My mums elder half sister was a BHC in 1909 and I have found folks who are very helpful on there

I too help with UK look ups for Canadian descendents of BHC children

Hugh Frizzel
in the 1891 Scotland Census
1891 Scotland Census No Image
Text-only collection
Name: Hugh Frizzel
Age: 6
Estimated birth year: abt 1885
Relationship: Son
Father's name: James Frizzel
Mother's name: Hessie Frizzel
Gender: Male
Where born: Greenock, Renfrewshire
Registration Number: 564/2
Registration district: Greenock West
Civil Parish: Greenock West
Town: Greenock
County: Renfrewshire
Address: 3 Prospecthill St
Occupation: Scholar
ED: 44
Household schedule number: 81
LINE: 13
Roll: CSSCT1891_183
Household Members:
Name Age
James Frizzel 32
Hessie Frizzel 31
Hugh Frizzel 6
Annie Frizzel 6 Mo
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Source Citation
Parish: Greenock West; ED: 44; Page: 21; Line: 13; Roll: CSSCT1891_183
Source Information
Ancestry.com. 1891 Scotland Census [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2007.

A tree on ancestry has his death cert and a picture of him and Christine


https://www.ancestry.co.uk/mediaui-viewer/tree/104285692/person/180041713468/media/479198b3-9383-47e5-b768-f4ab694941aa

Hugh Frizzell
in the Canadian Immigrant Records, Part One
Canadian Immigrant Records, Part One No Image
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Name: Hugh Frizzell
Year of Record: 1901
Occupation: born outside of Canada
Source/Event: 1901 Census of Canada; Province of Ontario; Lanark County (Extraction of those who gave a place of birth outside of Canada and a year of immigration).
Age: 17
Reference: National Archives of Canada [Ottawa] reel T6477; District 80; Sub-Dist. J04; page 6

Brilliant information guys, I've just now messaged the Quariers organisation so fingers crossed they have a record for him.

I assume his mother passed away about the same time as his father but looking through the People of Scotland register I found no record of her.

Do you have this?

Item: Hugh FRIZZEL (43658)
Given Name(s):
Hugh
Surname
FRIZZEL
Gender:
M
Age:
11
Year of Arrival:
1896
Ship:
STATE OF NEBRASKA
Date of Departure:
1896-04-03
Port of Departure:
Glasgow
Date of Arrival:
1896-04-14
Port of Arrival:
Halifax
Party:
Quarrier's Orphan Homes of Scotland
Destination:
Brockville, Ontario
Children travelling together:
H96BD
Comments:
132 children
Type of Records:
Passenger Lists
Microfilm Reel Number:
C-4517
Reference:
RG 76 C1b
Source:
Library and Archives Canada
Database Item Number:
43658

Laird.....


If you check back on your other thread you will see all that info has be posted....


I posted Hessies' death myself....and you acknowledged same.......

16 Aug 2016 16.53
The following may clarify a couple of things for you although to be honest I have been crossed eyed trying to follow through your threads....These are relative to the Frizzel (Variations)..

If you go back to Page 4 of your thread (21-27August 2015) and the postings by GlasgowLass /ArgyllGran and yourself .....

The Marriage of Hugh Frizzell and Ann Wilson took place 3 August 1858 in Rasharkin Church of Ireland in the Parish of Rasharkin and Civil District of Ballymoney.

The place where the couple lived was KILRAGHTS
Hugh was the son of James Frizzell of Ballaghmore.

19 July 1859 a Margaret "Frizzle" married a William Anderson in the Ballymoney Register's Office...she was sister to Hugh.

Moving forward ...

James Frizzell (Greenock) died on the 1st Nov.1891 aged 32 at 88 Drumfrochar Rd.Greenock

Hessie died at Smithson the home of her brother George Brown Feb 1896 *******



Eringobragh1916, brilliant information thanks a lot! I've just added the little extra insights you mention to my tree.

Eringobragh1916 thanks for this, i'll pop back across to the Peoples Records of Scotland and see if i can locate Hessie Frizzells death certificate/record.

Eringobragh1916

yup found it this time thank you, have just purchased the info from National Records of Scotland :-)

Here it is-

https://imgur.com/a/WTjQ7

I'm struggling to understand the cursive writing :-(

Great photo of Grandad George Alexander Lever Frizzell with the service medals I got from the MoD in 2016.

https://imgur.com/a/uhIB9