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SueBrewer
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14 May 2017 00:41 |
I have a friend who has heard she is a descendent of John Pollard The man that shot the man that shot Lord Nelson. John was born 27/July1787 Cawsand Cornwall d. 22/April 1868 The lady I am trying to help is Wendy Pollard born Hull. 1945 I know you are much better experts at ancestry than me I was hoping someone was as fascinated by this story as I was. and would do us the honours "Thank You" Regards I believe there's a Lee Pollard that has a public tree on Myheritage That I can't afford if that helps thanks again. George
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MargaretM
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14 May 2017 03:21 |
The thing to do is work backwards from Wendy, i.e. her parents' names, grandparents' names etc.
FreeBMD has a Wendy L. Pollard born 1945, Hull, mother's maiden name is Parkin.
Then there's a John T. Pollard married to Amy Parkin, 1936, Hull. Wendy's parents?
A John T. Pollard was born in 1912, Hull with mother's maiden name Ezard.
Then there's an Edward Pollard married to Martha Ezard, 1904, Pocklington. Any chance that these are Wendy's grandparents?
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Mary
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14 May 2017 10:42 |
lee Pollard has a tree on Ancestry,but he doesn't have John Pollard 27/7/1787 on it.
Maryb.
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PricklyHolly
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14 May 2017 11:13 |
For info on the family......
1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Greenwich Hospital Staff, Greenwich, London, England
John Pollard Head Married Male 74 1787 Lient Royal Navy (Cawsand) Cornwall, England Matilda Pollard Wife Married Female 34 1827 - Kingsland Matilda M Pollard Daughter Single Female 30 1831 - Devonport, Devon, England Mary J Pollard Daughter Single Female 26 1835 - Kingsland Cicilia J Pollard Daughter Single Female 24 1837 - Chatton, Northumberland, England Horatio Pollard Son ... Male 19 1842 Clerk Accounts Office Ireland Smith Eymond Daughter In Law Married Female 21 1840 - Kingsland, Middlesex, England Edson Eymond Son In Law Married Male 33 1828 Commander R N... Hanworth, Devon, England Emma Mashman Son Unmarried Male 24 1837 Servant Greenwich, Kent, England May A M Mashman Son Unmarried Male 19 1842 Servant Greenwich, Kent, England
England & Wales deaths 1837-2007 Transcription First name(s) JOHN Last name POLLARD Gender Male Birth day - Birth month - Birth year 1787 Age 81 Death quarter 2 Death year 1868 District Greenwich County London Volume 1D Page 466 Country England Record set England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007 Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Deaths & burials Collections from Great Britain
Deaths Jun 1863 (>99%) Pollard Matilda Greenwich 1d 433
Matilda Pollard in the England & Wales, Non-Conformist and Non-Parochial Registers, 1567-1970 Name: Matilda Pollard Birth Date: abt 1802 Event Type: Burial Death Date: abt 1863 Death Age: 61 Burial Date: 5 May 1863 Burial Place: Greenwich, Kent, England Piece Title: Piece 18-2: Greenwich Hospital and Schools, Baptisms, Burials, 1859-1864
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PricklyHolly
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14 May 2017 11:33 |
John Pollard in the England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966, 1973-1995 Name: John Pollard Death Date: 23 Apr 1868 Death Place: Kent, England Probate Date: 16 May 1868 Registry: Principal Registry
Late of Greenwich Hospital in the Parish of Greenwich.Retired Commander from Her Majesties Navy....Died at Greenwich Hospital.
Proved by The Oath of Matilda Mary Pollard of Greenwich Hospital aforesaid Spinster the Daughter of one of the Executrixes.
Effects: Under £300
Son Horatio...
Horatio John Pollard in the England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966, 1973-1995 Name: Horatio John Pollard Death Date: 21 Feb 1866 Death Place: Kent, England Probate Date: 30 May 1866 Registry: Principal Registry
Also died at the Royal Hospital, Greenwich.
To sister Matilda Mary Pollard (Spinster) .........Effects: Under £450
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malyon
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14 May 2017 11:42 |
http://news.bbc.co.uk/local/oxford/hi/people_and_places/history/newsid_8318000/8318968.stm
http://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/bygones/13886536.Sailor_who_shot_the_killer_of_Admiral_Nelson/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Pollard_%28Royal_Navy_officer%29
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14 May 2017 12:14 |
Of the 6 children John had, the only male was Horatio John, who appears to have died without getting married. If your friend is a descendant, it would be more likely that she is decended from one of the unmarried daughters? Might be worth following them through to later census.
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PricklyHolly
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14 May 2017 12:29 |
Daughter Emily married in 1857.......
Marriages Sep 1857 (>99%) Pollard Emily Greenwich 1d 762 Symons Edwin Charles Greenwich 1d 762
The 3 other sister who appear on the 1861 census...........are all spinster in 1881
1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 1, Magdala Villa, Saltash, St Germans, Cornwall, England
Matilda Mary Pollard Head Single Female 51 1830 Annuitant Interest Of Money Devonport, Devon, England Mary Jane Pollard Sister Single Female 49 1832 Annuitant Interest Of Money Cawsand, Cornwall, England Cecilia Louisa Golcha Pollard Sister Single Female 47 1834 Annuitant Interest Of Money Chatham, Kent, England
There seems to be a child missing from the 1861 census.
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14 May 2017 12:31 |
Details of the 6 children from the national archives:
Married Matilda Trevethan (baptised 28 February 1802 Maker Church; died 5 May 1863 Greenwich Hospital) 13 August 1822, Stonehouse, Plymouth. Children: Matilda Mary Pollard (baptised 6 February 1823, Stoke Damerel, Plymouth; died) Elizabeth Maria Pollard (baptised 17 March 1825, Rame Church; married Reverend Joseph Lamphier; died) Mary Jane Pollard (baptised 28 March 1827, Cawsand Independent Church; died) Cecelia Louise Goldie Pollard (baptised 28 January 1831, St Mary's Church, Chatham; died) Emily Pollard (born 10 November 1833; married Lieutenant Edwin Symons; died) Horatio John Pollard (born 19 May 1841, Sligo, Ireland; died 21 February 1866)
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PricklyHolly
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14 May 2017 12:43 |
1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Parkfield, Ford Park Road, Compton Gifford, Plympton St Mary, Devon, England
Mary J Pollard Head Single Female 59 1832 Living On Her Own Means Kingsand, Devon, England Cecelia L Pollard Sister Single Female 57 1834 Living On Her Own Means Chatham, Kent, England Ann Trenouth Servant Single Female 24 1867 General Domestic Servant Millbrook, Cornwall, England
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14 May 2017 12:50 |
Matilda's probate in 1889 confirms Cecilia was still a spinster - so the marriage posted by Malyon would not be correct.
Added Cecilia died 23/9/1901, and her probate also confirmed she was a spinster - probate was granted to sisters Mary Jane (spinster) and Emily Symons (who is now a widow)
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Maddie
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14 May 2017 12:57 |
Name: Matilda Treveathan Gender: Female Baptism Date: 28 Feb 1802 Baptism Place: Maker,Cornwall,England Father: Richard Treveathan Mother: Mary FHL Film Number: 916983
John Last name Pollard Sex Male Age 21 Muster year 1805 Birth year 1784 Birth parish Cawsand Birth county Cornwall Birth country England Enlistment year 1805 Enlistment date 03 Apr 1805 Muster date ? Aug 1805 Ship name Victory Location - Ship name or location (as transcribed) Victory Record type Ship muster books Archive The National Archives Series ADM 36 Series description Admiralty muster books (series 1) Date range August-October 1805 Archive reference ADM 36/15900 Record set British Royal Navy, Ships' Musters Category Military, armed forces & conflict Subcategory Regimental & service records Collections from Great Britain
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Maddie
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14 May 2017 13:07 |
Name: John Pollard Gender: Male Baptism Date: 30 Aug 1786 Baptism Place: Rame By Plymouth,Cornwall,England Father: John Pollard Mother: Elizabeth FHL Film Number: 916982
ELISA Last name POLLARD Gender Female Birth year 1789 Baptism year 1789 Baptism date 19 Dec 1789 Parish Rame Father's first name(s) John Father's last name Pollard Mother's first name(s) Elizabeth Mother's last name - Relationship Dau Place RAME County Cornwall Country England Record set Cornwall Baptisms Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Births & baptisms
RICHARD Last name POLLARD Gender Male Birth year 1787 Baptism year 1787 Baptism date 22 Nov 1787 Parish Rame Father's first name(s) John Father's last name Pollard Mother's first name(s) Elizabeth Mother's last name - Relationship Son Place RAME County Cornwall
RICHARD Last name POLLARD Age 45 Birth year 1789 Death year 1834 Burial year 1834 Burial date 30 Mar 1834 Burial location RAME Residence Kingsand County Cornwall Country England Entry number 507 Archival reference P196 1/11
rame and kingsand are close to cawsand
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14 May 2017 13:21 |
Mary Jane Pollard died in Exeter in 1909, a spinster and probate granted to sister Emily (widow) & Mabel Symons (spinster).
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PricklyHolly
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14 May 2017 14:04 |
1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Vernon Place, Birkenhead, Cheshire, England
Edward C Symons Head - Male 43 1828 - Devon, England Emily Symons Wife - Female 33 1838 - Cornwall, England Emily H Symons Daughter - Female 9 1862 - Kent, England Charles J Symons Son - Male 6 1865 - Kent, England Mabel Symons Daughter - Female 4 1867 - Kent, England Edith M Symons Daughter - Female 1 1870 - Cheshire, England Horace Symons Son - Male 0 1871 - Cheshire, England Anne Williams Servant - Female 32 1839 - Caernarvonshire, Wales Ellen James Servant - Female 23 1848 - Caernarvonshire, Wales
Edwin C. Symons in the 1881 England Census Name: Edwin C. Symons Age: 53 Estimated birth year: abt 1828 Gender: Male Where born: Plymouth, Devon, England Civil Parish: Vessels County/Island: Cheshire Country: England Street address: "Akbar" Marital Status: MarriedEducation: Occupation: Capt.Royal Navy Capt.Superintendent Registration district: Wirral ED, institution, or vessel: Akbar (4)
Edwin C. Symons 53 Emily Symons 43 Mabel Symons 14 Edith Symons 11 Horace Symons 10 Walter Symons 7 Percy Symons 4
1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription College Road, Compton Gifford, Plympton St Mary, Devon, England
Edwin O Symons Head Married Male 62 1829 Captain Royal Navy Retired Plymouth, Devon, England Emily Symons Wife Married Female 49 1842 - Cawsand, Cornwall, England Emily H Symons Daughter Single Female 26 1865 - Greenwich, Kent, England Edith Symons Daughter Single Female 19 1872 - Birkenhead, Cheshire, England Walter Symons Son Single Male 16 1875 - Rock Ferry, Cheshire, England Percy Symons Son - Male 13 1878 - Rock Ferry, Cheshire, England Martha Owen Servant Single Female 21 1870 General Domestic Servant Bebington, Cheshire, England
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PricklyHolly
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14 May 2017 14:10 |
Edwin Charles Symons in the England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966, 1973-1995 Name: Edwin Charles Symons Death Date: 5 Nov 1897 Death Place: Plymouth, Devon, England Probate Date: 11 Dec 1897 Registry: London, England
Of 4 Glenside, Mannamead, Plymouth.......Retired Captain in Royal Navy.
To Emily Symons widow......Effects: £582 18s 5d
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SueBrewer
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14 May 2017 22:07 |
https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/18527913_1896056580648258_4762949696008692297_n.jpg?oh=5dcc17afa5d7ab7495a9c583869d6841&oe=59BA26CB The ones in (Blue) are the tree I'd like you to follow Many thanks
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MargaretM
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14 May 2017 22:17 |
So can you tell us, George, if Wendy's parents are John T. Pollard & Amy Parkin?
p.s. I don't understand your generations list, you seem to have husbands & wives mixed up in the list.
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SueBrewer
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14 May 2017 22:36 |
Thanks for your reply Margaret. It's the Blue one's that are married to each other. John Pollard b 1915 m Amy Parkin b. 1910 and so on I believe. Thanks for your interest Regards George
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PricklyHolly
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14 May 2017 22:44 |
Unfortunately, the link George posted has stretched the thread
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