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Still questions-Lily May Wilkins Born 1900 Wales

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Squeaky020

Squeaky020 Report 22 Apr 2017 23:09

Looking for this person in the 1939 register.

Mother Elizabeth Watkins
Father George Wilkins

Married Thomas William Adams 1918.

I have her on the 1901 census and the 1911 but cannot seem to find her after her marriage in the 1939.

Any help would be appreciated.

malyon

malyon Report 22 Apr 2017 23:26

Births Jun 1900   (>99%)

WILKINS
 Lily May
 
 Bridgend
 11a
856


Deaths Sep 1975   (>99%)

ADAMS
 LILY MAY
 13MY1900
 LUTON
 9
361

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 22 Apr 2017 23:26

Do you have her exact date of birth to make it easier to find her. There are a few Lily M. Adams but none that look to be the right one.

Could she have married for a second time?

Kath. x

Squeaky020

Squeaky020 Report 22 Apr 2017 23:31

If the above death is correct - maybe try 13 May 1900 as a birth date please??

Donna x

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 22 Apr 2017 23:36

Still can't find her using that birth date. The only one that comes up with that birth date is an Alice L Adams but she seems to be married to a Richard J. Adams living in Surrey.

Kath. x

malyon

malyon Report 22 Apr 2017 23:46

there are only two lily may's born in 1900


Births Mar 1900   (>99%)

Wilkins
 Lily May
 
 Birmingham
 6d
197
  

Births Jun 1900   (>99%)

WILKINS
 Lily May
 
 Bridgend
 11a
856

Squeaky020

Squeaky020 Report 23 Apr 2017 15:04

Its definitely the Bridgend Lily May as it states Tyneswys as her birth place on both 1901 & 1911 census!

Cannot understand why I cannot find her on the 1939.....

Maybe her parents in 1939 will show something....

jansmith

jansmith Report 23 Apr 2017 22:34

There are some children surname Adams mmn Wilkins born in same district as marriage. Could someone look at Glennis Adams in 1939 register might be the eldest child.


KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 24 Apr 2017 00:13

This looks like Glennis (with father Thomas W. Adams) in the 1939 register:-

Adams Household (4 People)
46 High Street , Llantrisant and Llantwit Fardre R.D., Glamorganshire, Wales

FIRST NAME(S) LAST NAME(S) DOB SEX OCCUPATION MARITAL STATUS SCHEDULE SCHEDULE SUB NUMBER

Glennis Bryant (Adams) 20 Oct 1918 Female Household Duties Single 15 4
Sarah Adams 25 Mar 1870 Female Household Duties Widowed 15 1
Thomas W Adams 10 Jun 1893 Male Repairer Coal Mine (Below) Married 15 2
William S Adams 05 Mar 1922 Male Labourer (Coal Mine) Above Married 15 3

Thomas is married but no wife listed. He seems to be living with his widowed mother and two of his children.

Kath. x

Squeaky020

Squeaky020 Report 24 Apr 2017 17:05

Fantastic Kath !!!

Thank you Jan also!! Thats brilliant that you found this!

There is no Lily on here which still confuses me but finding these is fab!

I wont give up on Lily yet!

Thank you :-D

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 24 Apr 2017 17:22

Just realised that there is a closed record on the above 1939 Register record. Maybe you know if there are any other children or if it could be Lily?

Kath. x

Squeaky020

Squeaky020 Report 24 Apr 2017 18:21

I'm not sure if that is a closed record for the same household Kath,
think it might be for number 47? as cannot see the address anywhere if you catch my drift :-)

Kay????

Kay???? Report 24 Apr 2017 22:24

Lily Adams 1895 Pontardawe R.D. Glamorganshire
Transcription
(purchased).


This one appears to be in hospital,

Lily Adams,

6/4/95.
Married.

the hospital name is.

Clu-r?-s?dach Hospital.

along with many others who have closed records.

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 24 Apr 2017 22:31

The closed record is definitely with the Adams household as Rachel A. Scott in the next household is number 1 in that household, not number 2, so the closed record has to be person number 5 in the Adams household.

The addresses on that page are all even numbers, so wouldn't expect number 47 to be showing on that page.

Kath. x

Squeaky020

Squeaky020 Report 25 Apr 2017 18:02

Thanks Kay,

I do believe that Lily was born 1900, I have her in the 1901 aged 11 months.

Thanks Kath!

I can see where you're coming from now in regards to the closed record.

why is it closed and how can I open it??? :-D :-D :-D

Advice would be appreciated.

jansmith

jansmith Report 25 Apr 2017 19:59

Possible children

Births Mar 1919

Adams Glennis mmn Wilkins Pontypridd 11a 948


Births Sep 1919
Adams Sarah L Wilkins Pontypridd 11a 1108

Births Dec 1920
Adams Lily Wilkins Pontypridd 11a 1271

Births Jun 1927
Adams Mary E Wilkins Pontypridd 11a 960

jansmith

jansmith Report 25 Apr 2017 20:19

possible William's birth

Births Jun 1922

Adams William S mothers maiden name Davies. Bridgend 11a 1630
If it is then he is not one of their children.

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 25 Apr 2017 21:15

A record would be closed because the person involved was still alive in around 1990 when they stopped updating the register. Before 1990 the register was regularly updated and anyone who had died previously had their record opened and any female who married had their married name included.

To get a closed record opened you have to have proof that they have died (i.e. a death certificate).

Kath. x

jansmith

jansmith Report 26 Apr 2017 11:51

I suppose the other closed record could be the Lily (1920) or Mary E (1927) ?
Possible Thomas death year
Deaths
quarter Jun 1953
ADAMS Thomas W age 59 Bridgend 8b 61

May be Glennis death index

Bryant Glennis born 1918 died 2005 England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007 Rhondda, Glamorganshire, Wales

jansmith

jansmith Report 26 Apr 2017 12:16

If you go to search trees and put in Glennis Adams 1918 someone called Margaret looks like she has her in her tree. Margaret may be a daughter of Glennis. You could then send her a message.