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Eringobragh1916
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5 Mar 2017 16:39 |
Someone else looking for same family...???
http://www.geneal-forum.com/phpbb/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?t=14292&p=48116
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Naiomi
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5 Mar 2017 16:59 |
Yes Eringobragh, I think you may be right! <3
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Naiomi
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6 Mar 2017 12:21 |
I have managed to get in contact with great granddad William's, niece's son.
Who I am hoping will fill in some gaps about Henry Mathis's side, my great granddads brother.
As for my great great granddad their father William Otto Mathis born in Switzerland/Germany I think past that, it will always be a mystery.
Thank you for all your help. I couldn't of found that relative without you all.
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Eringobragh1916
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6 Mar 2017 13:09 |
Am pleased to hear you managed to get in touch but Rome wasn't built in a day and you may find other leads to Wm Otto from other sources ..You never know what's round the corner.
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PatinCyprus
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6 Mar 2017 14:09 |
Family Search is free and does have some European BMD here's a link
https://familysearch.org/
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Naiomi
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6 Mar 2017 20:47 |
Yes I have use family search lots. I have just this afternoon got access to my distant relatives tree. And I am shocked how much I got right from family search.
I now chasing my taylor side, I have found my nan's granddads records, 2 census and baptism... Can hardly read what they say.. May take a while.
<3
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Eringobragh1916
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7 Mar 2017 08:43 |
If you post the Taylor details that you have I am sure members on here will be able to help.
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ArgyllGran
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7 Mar 2017 11:26 |
Just in case any helpers are wondering about the Scottish side of Naiomi's family -
Rather than mix it up with this Mathis / Taylor thread, Naiomi PM'd me some details, and I've PM'd back all that I can find without spending credits on SP, plus some census and travel records.
Have gone as far back as I can be sure of accuracy, based on what she told me. If she wants to know anything further back, she'll have to buy credits to look at images of certs, to find out people's parents' names.
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Naiomi
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7 Mar 2017 14:23 |
I have just paid for a small search for Scottish side, cost a fortune. Scraping by on min wage. They say times were hard in times of old. My great great grandparents had 4 servants, I can't even afford a dishwasher :-D :-D ha ha
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Naiomi
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7 Mar 2017 14:40 |
So my nan Violet who married who married William Mathis B.1907
Her mother was Janet Nichols B.1897 London. Married Harry L Taylor B.1894. I think.
They had 6 children. I have all their details.
Then Harry's dad I think was Herbert Lothian Taylor B.1868 and his mother Mary Little (I think) B.1864 approx
I think he had 5 brothers/sisters Annie (1892) William (1896) Margaret (1901) Doris (1904) Herbert (1906) No further details on them.
Their father Herbert Lothian Taylor if I am right had 9 brothers/sisters William (1864) Albert (1865) Harry (1867) Louisa (1871) Florence (1874) Charles (1876) Percy (1887) Ethel (1888) Ernest (1890) These could be all wrong :-( :-(
I then have Herbert's father as William Taylor born approx 1825 And Herbert's mother as Louisa (No maiden name) born around 1836.
99% most London/Middlesex area. I paid to see some census's and baptism records for Herbert, which is how I have above. If I have read it write. Then looked at free census records to try and tie the rest. (Could be all wrong) <3
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ArgyllGran
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7 Mar 2017 16:45 |
Marriages Dec 1917 (>99%) Nichols Janet I Taylor Wandsworth 1d 1138 Taylor Harry A L Nichols Wandsworth 1d 1138
Births Sep 1894 (>99%) Taylor Harry Albert L Pancras 1b 6
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TAYLOR, HARRY ALBERT LOTHIAN mms LITTLE GRO Reference: 1894 S Quarter in PANCRAS Volume 01B Page 6
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ArgyllGran
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7 Mar 2017 16:47 |
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Harry A L Taylor in the 1911 England Census Name: Harry A L Taylor Age in 1911: 16 Estimated birth year: abt 1895 Relation to Head: Son Gender: Male Birth Place: Camden Town, London, England Civil Parish: Portsmouth County/Island: Hampshire Country: England Street address: 17 Jubilee Road, Southsea Occupation: Butcher Assistin Registration district: Portsmouth Registration District Number: 90 Sub-registration district: Kingston and East Southsea ED, institution, or vessel: 15 Household schedule number: 264 Piece: 5536 Household Members: Name Age Herbert L Taylor 42 Marjorie A E Taylor 46 Annie M L Taylor 18 Harry A L Taylor 16 William J Taylor 14 Margaret F Taylor 10 Doris Taylor 7 Herbert Taylor 4
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ArgyllGran
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7 Mar 2017 17:13 |
Same family ??
William Taylor in the 1901 England Census Name: William Taylor Age: 4 Estimated birth year: abt 1897 Relation to Head: Son Gender: Male Father: Herbert L Taylor Mother: Margare Taylor Birth Place: Portsmouth, Hampshire, England Civil Parish: Shirley Ecclesiastical parish: Shirley St James County/Island: Hampshire Country: England Street address: Registration district: South Stoneham Sub-registration district: Millbrook ED, institution, or vessel: 09 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 1072 Folio: 133 Page Number: 30 Household schedule number: 188 Household Members: Name Age Herbert L Taylor 34 Margare Taylor 36 Louisa V Taylor 8 Harry Taylor 7 William Taylor 4
1911 census says they'd been married 19 years, which would be c1892. I don't see the marriage of a Herbert Taylor to any woman surnamed Little around that time.
Margaret / Marjorie was born in Feltham, Middlesex. This will be her birth :
Births Mar 1864 (>99%) LITTLE Margaret Ann Elizabeth Staines 3a 3
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Naiomi
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7 Mar 2017 17:24 |
I have all below but had Mary as Marjorie ? There seems to be a few spellings I ha Mary, but above she is down as Marjorie and Margare. All the rest I have, thank you for confirming. So helpful, and nice that there are still folks in the world willing to help out a complete stranger. :-)
Herbert L Taylor 42 Marjorie A E Taylor 46 Annie M L Taylor 18 Harry A L Taylor 16 William J Taylor 14 Margaret F Taylor 10 Doris Taylor 7 Herbert Taylor 4
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ArgyllGran
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7 Mar 2017 17:24 |
this will be Margaret's marriage, but Herbert's name's missing;
Marriages Sep 1891 (>99%) Holman Ellen Westminster 1a 1052 Little Margaret Ann E Westminster 1a 1052 <<<<<<<< Lucas John Westminster 1a 1052 Smith George John Westminster 1a 1052 Thornton Margaret Ellen Westminster 1a 1052
Here's Herbert:
Marriages Sep 1891 (>99%) Back Agnes Westminster 1a 1062 Taylor Herbert Lothian Westminster 1a 1062 <<<<< Yarrow Thomas Westminster 1a 1062
The page number for Margaret's marriage should be 1062, not 1052 - it's hard to read. I'll do a postem.
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ArgyllGran
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7 Mar 2017 17:37 |
Herbert Lothian Taylor:
Herbert L. Taylor in the 1881 England Census Name: Herbert L. Taylor Age: 12 Estimated birth year: abt 1869 Relationship to Head: Son Father: William Taylor Mother: Louisa V. Taylor Gender: Male Where born: Lambeth, Surrey, England Civil Parish: Lambeth County/Island: London Country: England Street address: 75 Lwr Tulse Hill Occupation: Scholar Registration district: Lambeth Sub registration district: Brixton ED, institution, or vessel: 14 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 616 Folio: 16 Page Number: 23 Household Members: Name Age William Taylor 56 Louisa V. Taylor 45 William J. Taylor 17 Albert E. Taylor 16 Harry A. Taylor 14 Herbert L. Taylor 12 Louisa V. Taylor 10 Florence N. Taylor 8 Charles F. Taylor 6 Percy R. Taylor 4 Ethel B. Taylor 3 Ernest V. Taylor (Plus four servants)
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ArgyllGran
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7 Mar 2017 17:45 |
William & Louisa's marriage:
William Taylor in the London, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 Name: William Taylor Spouse: Louisa Victoria Nightingale Record Type: Marriage Event Date: 21 Aug 1862 Parish: St Anne, Limehouse Borough: Tower Hamlets Father Name: John Taylor Spouse Father: George Henry Nightingale Register Type: Parish Register
Marriages Sep 1862 (>99%) NIGHTINGALE Louisa Victoria Stepney 1c 923 Taylor William Stepney 1c 923
Louisa's baptism:
Louisa Victoria Nightingale in the London, England, Church of England Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906 Name: Louisa Victoria Nightingale Record Type: Baptism Baptism Date: 9 Feb 1838 Father's name: George Henry Nightingale Mother's name: Louisa Nightingale Parish or Poor Law Union: St George in the East Borough: Tower Hamlets Register Type: Parish Registers
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Eringobragh1916
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7 Mar 2017 17:57 |
Another one on the search....2005
https://www.british-genealogy.com/archive/index.php/t-3941.html
Love this bit....
" I have his son my G Grandfather and future daughter in law in 11 Vigo street Westminster in 1891." Herbert was disinherited for marrying the family servant :-(. (Oral history) !!
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Naiomi
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7 Mar 2017 18:36 |
This is great, I had Nightingale, but wasn't sure. Wonder if there i any distant relation to ''Florence'' ha ha
I also have william taylor born approx 1885 a his dad being John taylor so this i good. I have siblings as possibly Eliza Charlotte Louisa John George
And that John their dad's wife was possibly, Martha (no surname) Again it could ll be wrong, but part matches up with your search :-)
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Naiomi
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7 Mar 2017 18:38 |
ohI have seen vigo street some where on my travels.
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