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Think it must be a different mathis, my g g granddfather died in the UK x

William Mathis
New York, New York City Municipal Deaths
Name William Mathis
Event Type Death
Event Date 11 Sep 1905
Event Place Brooklyn, Kings, New York, United States
Residence Place New York City, N Y
Gender Male
Age 60
Marital Status Married
Race White
Occupation Harnessmaker
Birth Year (Estimated) 1845
Birthplace Germany
Burial Date 13 Sep 1905
Burial Place New York City, N Y
Cemetery Greenwood
Father's Name Wm Mathis
Father's Birthplace Germany
Mother's Name Marie
Mother's Birthplace Germany

says he is going abroad for 2 years

Thank you, not sure on the name Ernestine. Dose this mean he was travelling to new york? :-) Thank you

William Mathis
United States Census, 1880
Name William Mathis
Event Type Census
Event Date 1880
Event Place New York, New York, New York, United States
Gender Male
Age 35
Marital Status Married
Race White
Race (Original) W
Occupation Manfr. Of Harness
Relationship to Head of Household Self
Relationship to Head of Household (Original) Self
Birth Year (Estimated) 1845
Birthplace Germany
Father's Birthplace Germany
Mother's Birthplace Germany
Sheet Letter A
Sheet Number 552
Person Number 0
Volume 1
Household

Role

Sex

Age

Birthplace
William Mathis Self M 35 Germany
Ernstine Mathis Wife F 35 Germany
William Mathis Son M 9 New York, United States
Robert Mathis Son M 7 New York, United States
John Mathis Son M 4 New York, United States
Citing this Record

"United States Census, 1880," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MZ6Q-8R4 : 14 July 2016), William Mathis, New York, New York, New York, United States; citing enumeration district ED 199, sheet 552A, NARA microfilm publication T9 (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records

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First name(s) William
Last name Mathis
Sex Male
Age 56
Birth year 1845
Birth place Germany
Year 1901
Spouse's first name(s) Ernestine
Spouse's last name Mathis
State New York
Country United States
Certificate number 42837
NARA collection Passport Applications, 1795-1905.
NARA publication number M1372
Roll number Roll 579
Event type Passport Application
Record set United States Passport Applications
Category Travel & migration
Subcategory Migration
Collections from United States & Canada



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I have found this, posted some years ago....

Help needed from a very kind person who subscribes to World Membership on Ancestry.co.uk. I am looking for the information concealed on the Immigration & Emigration record type for, the Hamburg Passenger List 1850-1934 arrival: Southampton on; Cherbourg; New York, for William Mathis.

This was the reply
Furst Bismarck, August 1901:
Entry 93, MATHIS William, 56, verh [think it means married], New York, Sattler [?]
Entry 94, MATHIS W. 56 verh, New York [looks like his wife]

So now thinking my great granddad is German ? Furst Bismarck was a ship.

Any ideas? :-)

1891...Register of Electors
Herbert Lothian Taylor
Harry Adolphus
Wm John
Albert Edward
All residing 11 Vigo St Borough of Strand London

ohI have seen vigo street some where on my travels.

This is great, I had Nightingale, but wasn't sure. Wonder if there i any distant relation to ''Florence'' ha ha

I also have william taylor born approx 1885 a his dad being John taylor so this i good.
I have siblings as possibly
Eliza
Charlotte
Louisa
John
George

And that John their dad's wife was possibly, Martha (no surname) Again it could ll be wrong, but part matches up with your search :-)

Another one on the search....2005


https://www.british-genealogy.com/archive/index.php/t-3941.html


Love this bit....


" I have his son my G Grandfather and future daughter in law in 11 Vigo street Westminster in 1891."
Herbert was disinherited for marrying the family servant :-(. (Oral history) !!

William & Louisa's marriage:

William Taylor
in the London, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
Name: William Taylor
Spouse: Louisa Victoria Nightingale
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 21 Aug 1862
Parish: St Anne, Limehouse
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Father Name: John Taylor
Spouse Father: George Henry Nightingale
Register Type: Parish Register


Marriages Sep 1862 (>99%)
NIGHTINGALE Louisa Victoria Stepney 1c 923
Taylor William Stepney 1c 923



Louisa's baptism:

Louisa Victoria Nightingale
in the London, England, Church of England Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
Name: Louisa Victoria Nightingale
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 9 Feb 1838
Father's name: George Henry Nightingale
Mother's name: Louisa Nightingale
Parish or Poor Law Union: St George in the East
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Register Type: Parish Registers

Herbert Lothian Taylor:


Herbert L. Taylor
in the 1881 England Census
Name: Herbert L. Taylor
Age: 12
Estimated birth year: abt 1869
Relationship to Head: Son
Father: William Taylor
Mother: Louisa V. Taylor
Gender: Male
Where born: Lambeth, Surrey, England
Civil Parish: Lambeth
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address: 75 Lwr Tulse Hill
Occupation: Scholar
Registration district: Lambeth
Sub registration district: Brixton
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 616
Folio: 16
Page Number: 23
Household Members:
Name Age
William Taylor 56
Louisa V. Taylor 45
William J. Taylor 17
Albert E. Taylor 16
Harry A. Taylor 14
Herbert L. Taylor 12
Louisa V. Taylor 10
Florence N. Taylor 8
Charles F. Taylor 6
Percy R. Taylor 4
Ethel B. Taylor 3
Ernest V. Taylor

(Plus four servants)

this will be Margaret's marriage, but Herbert's name's missing;

Marriages Sep 1891 (>99%)
Holman Ellen Westminster 1a 1052
Little Margaret Ann E Westminster 1a 1052 <<<<<<<<
Lucas John Westminster 1a 1052
Smith George John Westminster 1a 1052
Thornton Margaret Ellen Westminster 1a 1052



Here's Herbert:

Marriages Sep 1891 (>99%)
Back Agnes Westminster 1a 1062
Taylor Herbert Lothian Westminster 1a 1062 <<<<<
Yarrow Thomas Westminster 1a 1062

The page number for Margaret's marriage should be 1062, not 1052 - it's hard to read.
I'll do a postem.

I have all below but had Mary as Marjorie ?
There seems to be a few spellings I ha Mary, but above she is down as Marjorie and Margare. All the rest I have, thank you for confirming. So helpful, and nice that there are still folks in the world willing to help out a complete stranger. :-)

Herbert L Taylor 42
Marjorie A E Taylor 46
Annie M L Taylor 18
Harry A L Taylor 16
William J Taylor 14
Margaret F Taylor 10
Doris Taylor 7
Herbert Taylor 4

Same family ??

William Taylor
in the 1901 England Census
Name: William Taylor
Age: 4
Estimated birth year: abt 1897
Relation to Head: Son
Gender: Male
Father: Herbert L Taylor
Mother: Margare Taylor
Birth Place: Portsmouth, Hampshire, England
Civil Parish: Shirley
Ecclesiastical parish: Shirley St James
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England
Street address:
Registration district: South Stoneham
Sub-registration district: Millbrook
ED, institution, or vessel: 09
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1072
Folio: 133
Page Number: 30
Household schedule number: 188
Household Members:
Name Age
Herbert L Taylor 34
Margare Taylor 36
Louisa V Taylor 8
Harry Taylor 7
William Taylor 4



1911 census says they'd been married 19 years, which would be c1892.
I don't see the marriage of a Herbert Taylor to any woman surnamed Little around that time.

Margaret / Marjorie was born in Feltham, Middlesex.
This will be her birth :

Births Mar 1864 (>99%)
LITTLE Margaret Ann Elizabeth Staines 3a 3

???

Harry A L Taylor
in the 1911 England Census
Name: Harry A L Taylor
Age in 1911: 16
Estimated birth year: abt 1895
Relation to Head: Son
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Camden Town, London, England
Civil Parish: Portsmouth
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England
Street address: 17 Jubilee Road, Southsea
Occupation: Butcher Assistin
Registration district: Portsmouth
Registration District Number: 90
Sub-registration district: Kingston and East Southsea
ED, institution, or vessel: 15
Household schedule number: 264
Piece: 5536
Household Members:
Name Age
Herbert L Taylor 42
Marjorie A E Taylor 46
Annie M L Taylor 18
Harry A L Taylor 16
William J Taylor 14
Margaret F Taylor 10
Doris Taylor 7
Herbert Taylor 4

Marriages Dec 1917 (>99%)
Nichols Janet I Taylor Wandsworth 1d 1138
Taylor Harry A L Nichols Wandsworth 1d 1138



Births Sep 1894 (>99%)
Taylor Harry Albert L Pancras 1b 6


EDIT:

TAYLOR, HARRY ALBERT LOTHIAN mms LITTLE
GRO Reference: 1894 S Quarter in PANCRAS Volume 01B Page 6

So my nan Violet who married who married William Mathis B.1907

Her mother was Janet Nichols B.1897 London. Married Harry L Taylor B.1894. I think.

They had 6 children. I have all their details.

Then Harry's dad I think was
Herbert Lothian Taylor B.1868
and his mother Mary Little (I think) B.1864 approx

I think he had 5 brothers/sisters
Annie (1892)
William (1896)
Margaret (1901)
Doris (1904)
Herbert (1906)
No further details on them.

Their father Herbert Lothian Taylor if I am right had 9 brothers/sisters
William (1864)
Albert (1865)
Harry (1867)
Louisa (1871)
Florence (1874)
Charles (1876)
Percy (1887)
Ethel (1888)
Ernest (1890) These could be all wrong :-( :-(

I then have Herbert's father as William Taylor born approx 1825
And Herbert's mother as Louisa (No maiden name) born around 1836.

99% most London/Middlesex area. I paid to see some census's and baptism records for Herbert, which is how I have above. If I have read it write. Then looked at free census records to try and tie the rest. (Could be all wrong) <3

I have just paid for a small search for Scottish side, cost a fortune. Scraping by on min wage. They say times were hard in times of old. My great great grandparents had 4 servants, I can't even afford a dishwasher :-D :-D ha ha