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ArgyllGran
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8 Jan 2020 19:33 |
Marriages Dec 1938 (>99%) Cooke Harold Townsend Nottingham 7b 947 Cooke Harold Harvey Nottingham 7b 947 Harvey Winifred Cooke Nottingham 7b 947 Townsend Winifred Cooke Nottingham 7b 947
??? Marriages Sep 1932 (>99%) Harvey Winifred Townsend Worksop 7b 91 Townsend John E Harvey Worksop 7b 91
So this will be your Harold?
Harold Cooke in the 1939 England and Wales Register Name: Harold Cooke Gender: Male Marital status: Married Birth Date: 8 Aug 1897 Residence Year: 1939 Address: 145 Residence Place: Lincoln, Lincolnshire (Parts of Lindsey), England Occupation: Grocer Manage R Schedule Number: 42 Sub Schedule Number: 1 Enumeration District: TLCG Registration district: 418 (1) Inferred Spouse: Winifred A Cooke Household Members: Name Harold Cooke Winifred A Cooke - 31 Mar 1894
I don't see a Winifred A Harvey born at that time in Nottinghamshire.
There's this one in Worksop:
Births Sep 1893 (>99%) Harvey Winifred Annie Worksop 7b 48
However, Ancestry suggests she married John W Taylor in Worksop in 1915 - and she and John are together in Worksop in 1939.
EDIT: there's a closed record with Harold and Winifred in 1939. Could be a Townsend/Harvey daughter born in Worksop in 1933.
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Olive Jean
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8 Jan 2020 21:42 |
Wow a reply for Peter Hebblethwaite born Nottingham Who went to Canada to join the Royal Mounted Police My Vera Cooke Mother and Father were Harry Cooke born 1879 and Olive Taylor born 1882 both Nottingham Let’s hope the information is what I have been looking for From Olive
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ErikaH
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8 Jan 2020 21:58 |
COOKE, HAROLD JOHNSON GRO Reference: 1897 S Quarter in GAINSBOROUGH Volume 07A Page 731
1911 40 Garfield St Gainsborough, Gainsborough, Lincolnshire, England Thomas George Cooke Head Married Male 46 1865 Tool Fitter Notts Radford Mary Stevens Cooke Wife Married Female 40 1871 - Lincs Gosberton Clement Aubrey Cooke Son Single Male 18 1893 Salesman Lincs Gainsboro Harold Cooke Son Single Male 13 1898 Errand Boy Lincs Gainsboro Gwendolen Cooke Daughter Single Female 9 1902 - Lincs Gainsboro
1939 145 Boutham Park Road,Lincoln, Lincoln C.B., Lincolnshire (Parts of Lindsey), England Harold Cooke 07 Aug 1897 Male Grocers Manager Married 42 1 Winifred A Cooke 31 Mar 1894 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 42 2 The record for this person is officially closed. Can I get around this?
Sheila M (Margaret S) Richardson (Waterworth) 31 Oct 1924 Female School Single 42 3
Marriages Dec 1938 (>99%) Cooke Harold Townsend Nottingham 7b 947 Cooke Harold Harvey Nottingham 7b 947 Harvey Winifred Cooke Nottingham 7b 947 Townsend Winifred Cooke Nottingham 7b 947
Winifred had been married before
Marriages Sep 1932 (>99%) Harvey Winifred Townsend Worksop 7b 91 Townsend John E Harvey Worksop 7b 91
Apologies
Just noticed that I've duplicated all your info AG. Will delete if you wish
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ErikaH
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8 Jan 2020 22:07 |
Is this the 'closed' record on 1939 register?
Births Sep 1933 (>99%) TOWNSEND Muriel R Harvey Worksop 7b 95
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ArgyllGran
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8 Jan 2020 22:12 |
That's the one I thought it could be.
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Muriel R Townsend in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1916-2005 Name: Muriel R Townsend Registration Date: Apr 1957 [May 1957] [Jun 1957] Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun Registration district: Chesterfield Inferred County: Derbyshire Spouse: Patrick A T Hartshorne Volume Number: 3a Page Number: 310
Ms Muriel Ruth Hartshorne in the England and Wales, Death Index, 1989-2018 Name: Ms Muriel Ruth Hartshorne Gender: Female Age: 73 Birth Date: 1934 Last Residence: Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England Postal Code District: NG6 Death Date: 10 Aug 2007
Patrick Allen T Hartshorne in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007 Name: Patrick Allen T Hartshorne Death Age: 34 Birth Date: 31 Mar 1936 Registration Date: Jul 1970 [Aug 1970] [Sep 1970] Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep Registration district: Nottingham Inferred County: Nottinghamshire Volume: 3c Page: 617
A possible son born in Nottingham 1965.
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Olive Jean
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8 Jan 2020 22:29 |
Have just read your reply re Harry Cooke I don’t think it’s the same Harry Cooke as my Grandfather But who knows Without doing any researching
As far as I know my Vera Wilson nee Cooke went out to join Peter Hebblethwaite, After Peter was there in Canada And for some reason came back to England later Bye for now Olive
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ErikaH
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9 Jan 2020 10:35 |
1939 for Peter - whose MOTHER was a Cooke before marriage
Westcliffe House Church Road, Basford R.D., Nottinghamshire, England Cyril G Hebblethwaite 15 Sep 1890 Male Traveller Commercial Oil Married 101 1 Gwendoline M Hebblethwaite 17 Dec 1901 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 101 2 Peter Hebblethwaite 15 Mar 1930 Male At School Single 101 3 Betty Andrews (Hebbletthwait) 13 May 1931 Female At School Single 101 4 The record for this person is officially closed. Can I get around this?
It is certainly the same PH, but the Cooke connection is not relevant, as far as I can see
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Stephen
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9 Jan 2020 20:36 |
Hi ErikaH The 1939 register listing that you have is the correct Peter Hebblethwaite, my uncle, and I agree the Cooke connection seems to be a coincidence. The officially closed record is my aunt who is still alive and was born in 1934.
So my Harold Cooke / Winifred Townsend (Peter's Uncle and Aunt) are a red-herring as regards Vera.
Steve
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Stephen
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9 Jan 2020 20:53 |
Peter went on to marry in Canada in 1957, apparently having to leave the Mounties to do so. So it would perhaps be the reason that Vera returned as Peter had met someone over there.
As mentioned earlier in the thread Peter went to Canada on the 27th of Dec 1952 on the Scythia, and Vera is not on the same passenger list, so she must have known Peter quite well (??? romantically) to have gone out in 1954 to Canada. Steve
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