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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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24 Jan 2019 17:19 |
Her husband
RALPH DOUGLAS Last name CHANDLER Gender Male Birth day 26 Birth month 1 Birth year 1924 Age - Death quarter 3 Death year 1982 District Nottingham County Nottinghamshire Volume 8 Page 0669 Country England Record set England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007 Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Civil Deaths & Burials Collections from Great Britain, England (c) brightsolid online publishing ltd
The cert shouid hopefully give a home address
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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24 Jan 2019 17:23 |
She is on the electoral rolls presumably in a home as there's a list of people at th same address
Presume you know this if you re in touch
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Olive Jean
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24 Jan 2019 18:22 |
Hi Yes my Aunt is still a live and hopefully will make 100 years in October 2019 She lives in a home in East wood Nottinghamshire My grandparents did live at 50 PierriepontRoad West Bridgeford Nottingham
I just carnt the make out why Vera isn’t on the Electeroles through the years As they go back a long way I have the Marriage for Vera Wilson and Ralph Chandler But not James Barry Wilson Thankyou Olive .
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Olive Jean
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24 Jan 2019 18:23 |
Hi again I have been into the local Library to look for the Electroles on Ancestry today But no luck Olive
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24 Jan 2019 18:27 |
Find My Past has some ER's for the 1920's / early 30's
Harry and Olive Cooke are shown in 1923 - 1931 to be at 50 Pierrepont Road Lady Bay District, Parish of West Bridgford, Rushcliffe Constituency
England & Wales, Electoral Registers 1920-1932
First name(s) Harry Last name Cooke Year 1923 Season Autumn Polling district or place West Bridgford Constituency P C of Nottinghamshire, Rushcliffe Division Constituency in full Parliamentary County of Nottinghamshire, Rushcliffe Division County Nottinghamshire Country England Register type Parliamentary County Archive The British Library Archive reference SPR.Mic.P.267/BL.N.51 Record set England & Wales, Electoral Registers 1920-1932 Category Census, land & surveys Subcategory Electoral Rolls Collections from Great Britain, England
From originals -
1930/31 shows also Harry Archibald and Clarice Cooke at the same address.
Against each person are 2 codes, the first gives the qualification for Parliamentary elections, the second for local elections. A dash indicates voter couldn't vote in that election. In 1931 Harry is R (Residence Qualification) and O (Occupational qualification) Olive is Rw (residential qualification - women) and Dw (Qualification through husband's occupation.) Both shown as HO pre 1928 Harry Archibald is R and a dash Clarice is Rw and dash
Harry also has a J by his name which indicates he was eligible for Juror service each year
No Clarice 1929 and Harry Archibald only qualifies R dash 1927/28 - only Harry and Olive
ER codes explained - http://www.electoralregisters.org.uk/codes.htm
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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24 Jan 2019 19:05 |
Earlier electoral rolls are available from the main library for the areas
Pre 2002 aren't online
The exception is Ancestry that does have some London electoral rolls but they are the exception rather than the norm
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Olive Jean
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24 Jan 2019 21:13 |
Thankyou for your reply
Really strange we can’t find Vera Wilson born 1919 (nee Cook ) When she was married to James Barry Wilson , on the Electroles
My Mum Veras sister and Dad are on the Electroles You all helped me to find then Anyway Thankyou Bye for now Olive
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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24 Jan 2019 22:55 |
She won't show on the electoral rolls until she was of voting age so born 1919 she wouldn't show till 1940 The exception would be the 1939 register as this was compiled for ww2 identity cards and ration books
However when that was composed it was assured would be closed for 100 years
When the NHS stated in1948 it was used to issue NHS nos and was updated for deaths that has occurred and woman who had married
It's been updated several times since and records opened for those that have passed away
It's not up to date on open records but a record can be requested to be opened on proof by a death cert
Again Vera is still alive so she is a closed record
For when Vera did marry then those would be at the local area where she lived
I believe though they aren't searchable by name but by address But no electoral rolls were taken in WW2
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Olive Jean
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24 Jan 2019 23:51 |
Thankyou all for all your effort And explaining how it works Bye for now and Thankyou Olive
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Olive Jean
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24 Jan 2019 23:52 |
Thankyou all for all your effort And explaining how it works Bye for now and Thankyou Olive
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Olive Jean
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25 Jan 2019 09:55 |
Hi Just wondered if anyone could find the Electroles forever for Aunt Vera’s husband s
First one James Barry Wilson married 1946 Nottingham I don’t no any thing about James Barry Wilson Only he served in WW2
Ralph Douglas Chandler married 1958 Nottingham Death 1982 nottingham He was in the Police Force Nottingham
Thankyou Olive
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ArgyllGran
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25 Jan 2019 10:13 |
I'm only suggesting this man because he died in Nottinghamshire. I DON'T know if this is the same James Barry Wilson - this one has an extra middle name.
James B S Wilson in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Birth Index, 1916-2007 Name: James B S Wilson Registration Date: 1920 Registration district: Derby Inferred County: Derbyshire Re-registration Year: 1920 Mother's Maiden Name: Schofield Volume Number: 7a Page Number: 1421
Possible remarriage ???
James B S Wilson in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1916-2005 Name: James B S Wilson Registration Date: Jan-Feb-Mar 1955 Registration district: Loughborough Inferred County: Leicestershire Spouse: Marjorie J Mitchell Or Blatherwick Volume Number: 3a Page Number: 1995
James Barry S Wilson in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007 Name: James Barry S Wilson Death Age: 79 Birth Date: 9 Feb 1920 Registration Date: Jul 1999 Registration district: Rushcliffe Inferred County: Nottinghamshire Register Number: 22C District and Subdistrict: 6901
James Barry Schofield Wilson in the Web: UK, Burial and Cremation Index, 1576-2014 Name: James Barry Schofield Wilson Register Type: Cremation Death Date: 2 Jul 1999 Burial or Cremation Date: 9 Jul 1999 Burial or Cremation Place: Nottinghamshire, England
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ArgyllGran
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25 Jan 2019 10:21 |
Re Electoral Rolls -
as Shirley has explained, there were no ER's during WW2. IF James Barry was the one born in 1920, he wouldn't be old enough to appear on an ER until 1941, which of course was during WW2.
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ArgyllGran
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25 Jan 2019 10:25 |
Ralph was born 1924, so he wouldn't appear on an ER until 1945 - or until after the war.
Here he is as a teenager in 1939:
Ralph D Chandler in the 1939 England and Wales Register Name: Ralph D Chandler Gender: Male Marital status: Single Birth Date: 26 Jan 1924 Residence Year: 1939 Address: 489 Residence Place: Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England Occupation: Mechanic Apprentice Schedule Number: 193 Sub Schedule Number: 3 Enumeration District: RMJS Registration district: 430-4 B7 Inferred Father: Ralph Chandler Inferred Mother: Rebecca Chandler Household Members: Name Ralph Chandler Rebecca Chandler Ralph D Chandler
In 1960 he was living in Nottingham, so presumably Vera was at that address too:
Ralph D Chandler in the British Phone Books, 1880-1984 Name: Ralph D Chandler Address: 28 Glendon dr Sherwood. Publication Year: 1960 Directory Place: Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England Exchange: Nottm Page Number: 2072
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Olive Jean
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25 Jan 2019 10:39 |
Thankyou so much I recognise that address for them I will send for the marriage of Vera Cooke and James Barry Wilson I think they may have married at Edwalton Church Edwalton Nottingham 1946 Then it will state age etc
The trouble there is no one to ask now only Aunt Vera but don’t think she will ??
Anyway will let you know I get on Thankyou Olive
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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26 Jan 2019 11:38 |
James Barry Wilson didn't have any other Christian names when they married in 1946
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Olive Jean
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26 Jan 2019 15:05 |
Hi As far as I know Vera Cooke married James Barry Wilson @ Nottingham 1946 So surely they must be on an Electrole if he was still a live ???? My cousin and I think James Barry Taylor might have been in RAF WW2
Anyway I am sending for the marriage certificate later next week See what turns up Bye for now and Thankyou
Olive
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Olive Jean
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7 Feb 2019 22:23 |
Hi Just to say I have sent for the Marriage of
Vera Cooke And James Barry Wilson 1946 Nottingham
Thankyou Olive
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Olive Jean
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9 Feb 2019 22:26 |
Hi I have received my Aunts Marriage Certifate
It states Vera Cooke Age 26 (but she was born 1919 ) living @ West Bridgford
Father Harry Cooke (thats right my Grandfather )
James Barry Wilson Age 26 Living @ Edwalton
Father James Leonard Wilson
Marriage June 1946 Edwalton Church Edwalton Nottinghamshire
But where the Groom was born or his Father I have no idea
Olive
Father Harry Cooke
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greyghost
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9 Feb 2019 23:10 |
Married 1946, given age 26 1946 - 26 = 1920 in simple Maths But if Vera was born in October 1919 (page 1 of thread) and married in June 1946 she would still only be 26 having had that birthday in October 1945
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POSSIBLES only, not certain -
These are the James B Wilson births that would make him 26 at marriage
Surname First name(s) Mother District Vol Page Births Jun 1919 (>99%) Wilson James B Ball Chester-le-S. 10a 914
Births Mar 1920 Wilson James B Thompson Skipton 9a 83 Wilson James B S Schofield Derby 7b 1421 <<<<<<<<<
Marriages Dec 1915
Haslam Gladys Hawkes Fylde 8e 1550 Hawkes William P Haslam Fylde 8e 1550 Schofield Gladys Wilson Fylde 8e 1550 <<<<< Wilson James L Schofield Fylde 8e 1550 <<<<<< _________________
Another Wilson/Schofield birth Basford RD (which amongst others would cover West Bridgford) 1924
Who were the witnesses of the marriage
-------------------------- Wilson Household (4 People) 11 Leahurst Road , West Bridgford U.D., Nottinghamshire, England Add to tree View original image Print FIRST NAME(S) LAST NAME(S) DOB SEX OCCUPATION MARITAL STATUS SCHEDULE SCHEDULE SUB NUMBER James L Wilson 08 Aug 1888 Male Agent For Cotton Wool Spinners (Master) Married 271 1 Gladys Wilson 13 May 1891 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 271 2 Sorry, this record is officially closed. Check if you can open a closed record. Sorry, this record is officially closed. Check if you can open a closed record. Ref: RG101/6245D/020/7 Letter Code: RNSR
Looks likely - I see looking back into the thread that ArgyllGran had come up with James Barry Schofield Wilson as a possibility
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