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30 Oct 2016 16:48 |
John Williams born wales...moved to Liverpool/Sheffield(1891 census) then preston sussex street where my grandad was born George Williams 1910. John was married to Mary naylor in 1890 Liverpool.
I'm looking for links to his father/grandfather etc.
He is difficult to pinpoint with just the name....there are quite a few of them !! Any assistance would be most welcome...whilst I wait in hope of responses to my e-mails from possible inked trees....REGARDS LYNN
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alviegal
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30 Oct 2016 16:54 |
For info.
1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 2 Sussex Street Preston, Preston, Lancashire, England
Learn more Print transcription View image Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Occupation Age Birth year Birth place John Williams Head Married Male Wood Cutting Machinist 45 1866 Carnarvonshire Portmadoe Transcription Mary Williams Wife Married Female - 42 1869 Lpool Lancs Transcription William Williams Son Single Male Painter And Decorators Apprentice 20 1891 Sheffield Yorks Transcription Elizabeth Williams Daughter Single Female Weaver 17 1894 Lpool Lancs Transcription John Williams Son Single Male Wireworkers Apprentice 15 1896 Preston Lancs Transcription Owen Williams Son Single Male School 13 1898 Preston Lancs Transcription Mary Williams Daughter Single Female School 11 1900 Preston Lancs Transcription Ruth Williams Daughter Single Female School 9 1902 Preston Lancs Transcription Joseph Williams Son Single Male School 6 1905 Preston Lancs Transcription Stanley Williams Son Single Male School 4 1907 Preston Lancs Transcription Nellie Williams Daughter Single Female - 2 1909 Preston Lancs Transcription George Williams Son Single Male - 1 1910 Preston Lancs Transcription Edmund Williams Son Single Male - 0 1911 Preston Lancs Transcription Mary Naylor Mother In Law Widow Female - 69 1842 Lpool Lancs
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Lynn
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30 Oct 2016 16:59 |
thanks - I have the 1911 census info - looking for anything between 1867-1881 and prior if possible.
I can't believe how many children they had !! :-) :-)
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30 Oct 2016 17:01 |
Are you a year out with the marriage?
England & Wales marriages 1837-2008 Transcription
First name(s) JOHN Last name WILLIAMS Marriage quarter 2 Marriage year 1889 Registration month - MarriageFinderâ„¢ JOHN WILLIAMS married one of these people MARY ELLEN NAYLOR, MARY ANN MORRIS District WEST DERBY District number - County Lancashire Country England Volume 8B Page 593
and from http://www.lan-opc.org.uk - useful for bmd Lancashire and free
There was 1 match for this search! Gives Father's name to help in search
Marriage: 21 Apr 1889 St George, Everton, Lancashire, England John Williams - 23, Merchant, Bachelor, 6 Mere Lane Mary Ellen Naylor - 20, Spinster, 6 Mere Lane Groom's Father: John Williams, Deceased, Captain <<<<<<<<<<<<< Bride's Father: Joseph Naylor, Joiner Witness: William Naylor; Elizabeth Croft Married by Banns by: A. F. Mitchell Register: Marriages 1886 - 1893, Page 99, Entry 198 Source: LDS Film 2147879
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Chris Ho :)
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30 Oct 2016 17:02 |
http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk/index.php
(quite a few Births on above, Mother Maiden Name Naylor)
Chris :)
Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1909
WILLIAMS George NAYLOR North Preston Preston NP/17/26
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greyghost
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30 Oct 2016 17:02 |
We don't know what information you have Lynn - it helps us to help you to post what we find as we go along. What information do you have 1881 onwards - it also helps us!
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Lynn
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30 Oct 2016 17:05 |
that is really helpful - thankyou...I have picked up links to ships in records but just couldn't be sure....
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alviegal
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30 Oct 2016 17:07 |
This is the closest marriage I could find.
Name: Mary Ellen Naylor Birth Year: abt 1869 Age: 20 Marriage Date: 21 Apr 1889 Parish: Everton, St George Spouse's Name: John William, machinist Father's name: Joseph Naylor, joiner Spouse Father's Name: John William, captain (dec) Reference Number: 283 GEV/3/13
William Naylor and Elizabeth Croft were witnesses.
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Lynn
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30 Oct 2016 17:08 |
1891 census info - living in sheffield 1st son born William Williams.
It is the older records I would be looking for from Wales...linking back to his father and beyond.....many thanks Lynn
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Andrew
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30 Oct 2016 17:13 |
Possible 1871??
Father John is a Mariner
Name: John Williams Age: 3 Estimated birth year: abt 1868 Relation: Son Father's name: John Williams Mother's name: Catherine Williams Gender: Male Where born: Portmadoc, Caernarfonshire, Wales Civil Parish: Ynyscynhaiarn Town: Portmadoc County/Island: Caernarvonshire Country: Wales Registration district: Festiniog Sub-registration district: Tremadoc ED, institution, or vessel: 8 Household schedule number: 140 Piece: 5700 Folio: 109 Page Number: 27 Household Members: Name Age John Williams 48 Catherine Williams 46 Jane E Williams 19 Grace Williams 12 David Williams 7 John Williams 3 Catherine Williams 7 Months
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Andrew
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30 Oct 2016 17:25 |
Same family 1861
Name: John Williams Age: 38 Estimated birth year: abt 1823 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Catherine Williams Gender: Male Where born: Llanfrothen, Merionethshire, Wales Civil Parish or Township: Ynyscynhaiarn County/Island: Caernarvonshire Country: Wales Street address: View image Condition as to marriage: View image Education: View image Employment status: View image Occupation: View image Registration district: Festiniog Sub-registration district: Tremadoc ED, institution, or vessel: 9 Household schedule number: 195 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 4327 Folio: 42 Page Number: 36 Household Members: Name Age John Williams 38 Seaman Catherine Williams 36 John Williams 11 Jane E Williams 9 Evan Williams 7 Grace Williams 3
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greyghost
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30 Oct 2016 17:26 |
Father Captain of a Tug Boat !
1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 66, Madoc Street, Ynys-Cynhaiarn (Carnarvon), Festinog, Merionethshire, Wales
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place John Williams Head Married Male 58 1823 Captain Of A Tug Boat (Dock Serv) Llanfrothen, Merionethshire, Wales Catherine Williams Wife Married Female 56 1825 - Dolgelly, Merionethshire, Wales Jane Ellin Williams Daughter Single Female 28 1853 - Bangor, Caernarvonshire, Wales Evan Williams Son Single Male 26 1855 Mariner Bangor, Caernarvonshire, Wales David Williams Son Single Male 17 1864 Stoker Of A Railway (Rywy Dom) Caernarvonshire, Wales John Williams Son Single Male 13 1868 Scholar Caernarvonshire, Wales Kate Williams Daughter Single Female 10 1871 Scholar Caernarvonshire, Wales
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greyghost
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30 Oct 2016 17:29 |
The 1891 you mention - John born Portmadoc
1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Manners Street, Brightside Bierlow, Sheffield, Yorkshire, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place John Williams Head Married Male 25 1866 Moulding Machine Man Caernarvonshire, Wales Mary E Williams Wife Married Female 22 1869 - Liverpool, Lancashire, England William O Williams Son - Male 0 1891 - Sheffield, Yorkshire, England Mary Naylor Mother In Law Widow Female 49 1842 Dressmaker Sefton, Lancashire, England
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Andrew
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30 Oct 2016 17:29 |
and 1851
Name: John Williams Age: 1 Estimated birth year: abt 1850 Relation: Son Father's name: John Williams Mother's name: Catherine Williams Gender: Male Where born: Bangor, Caernarvonshire, Wales Civil Parish or Township: Bangor Ecclesiastical parish: Bangor Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps: View this parish Town: Bangor County/Island: Caernarvonshire Country: Wales Registration district: Bangor Sub-registration district: Bangor ED, institution, or vessel: 1l Piece: 2518 Folio: 238 Page Number: 15 Household schedule number: 60 Household Members: Name Age John Williams 28 Mariner Catherine Williams 26 John Williams 1
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Lynn
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30 Oct 2016 17:29 |
very helpful thank you...did you find that info on this site John?
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Lynn
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30 Oct 2016 17:30 |
Andrew sorry !! :-) toooo many johns
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30 Oct 2016 17:33 |
Hardly any of the helpers look for records on GR, Lynn.
We mostly use Ancestry (where I think Andrew found those), or FindMyPast or FamilySearch
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Andrew
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30 Oct 2016 17:37 |
Yes Ancestry for my mine.
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alviegal
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30 Oct 2016 17:37 |
1851 from fmp. Andrew got his from ancestry.
1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Infant Lane, Bangor, Caernarvonshire, Wales
Learn more Print transcription View image Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place John Williams Head Married Male 28 1823 Mariner Llanfrothen, Merionethshire, Wales Transcription Catherine Williams Wife Married Female 26 1825 - Dolgelly, Merionethshire, Wales Transcription John Williams Son - Male 1 1850 Infant Bangor, Caernarvonshire, Wales
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Andrew
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30 Oct 2016 17:40 |
Just tried looking for marriage for John Williams and Catherine around 1848-50. There are loads of possibles just in Bangor. I think you will need a birth cert of a child to find Catherines maiden name.
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