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Theresa
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29 Sep 2016 09:37 |
Looking for family and information of George and Jane Wallace (nee Petrie). Married 07/01/1882 in Cupar, Scotland. Jane born 10/01/1850. Known children were Thomas and Georgina born in Scotland. Thomas was born at Nochnary Farm, Kettle on 06/08/1886. Georgina was born in 1893. Thomas sailed on the Kaikoura from London 09/08/1911 to Australia. Georgina and husband David Gibb Haldane and daughter Jean left London 11/03/1921 for Australia. Last known address for Jean and Dave was 44 Auchterderran Road, Lochgelly. Any relatives please contact
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29 Sep 2016 10:16 |
Welcome to the boards Theresa.
The best way to contact relatives is to use the Search all member trees function, top right under search. If the names are listed, send a message to the tree owner by using the 'find out more' button. Use a wide search such as +/-2 and Scotland rather than the exact place of birth.
How much Australian research have you undertaken? Although we could try to assist, we may end up giving you info you already know.
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ArgyllGran
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29 Sep 2016 10:31 |
Theresa - are you looking for Australian information, or do you want to know about the Scottish ancestry of the family?
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Catherine
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29 Sep 2016 11:22 |
I thought this was the family in 1901, but dates of birth of mother don't fit????
Name: George Wallace Age: 38 Estimated birth year: abt 1863 Relationship: Head Spouse's name : Jane Wallace Gender: Male Where born: davisie, Fife Registration Number: 408 Registration district: Ballingry Civil Parish: Ballingry Town: Lochgelly County: Fife Address: 37 Main St Occupation: Labourer Coal Mine Above Geoand ED: 3 Household schedule number: 68 LINE: 17 Roll: CSSCT1901_130 Household Members: Name Age George Wallace 38 Jane Wallace 42 - 1859 born: Auchtermuchty, Fife Thomas Wallace 14 - 1887 born: Kingskettle, Fife Georgina S Wallace 10 - 1891 born: Lochgelly, Fife
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Catherine
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29 Sep 2016 11:27 |
If that is the family, then this is the same in 1891
Name: George Wallace Age: 28 Estimated birth year: abt 1863 Relationship: Head Spouse's name : Jane Wallace Gender: Male Where born: Newmill, Cupar Fife Registration Number: 408 Registration district: Ballingry Civil Parish: Ballingry County: Fife Address: Old School Houses Occupation: Pithead Worker ED: 2 Household schedule number: 7 LINE: 1 Roll: CSSCT1891_124 Household Members: Name Age George Wallace 28 Jane Wallace 34 1857 born: Fife, Auchtermuchty Maggie N Wallace 6 1885 born: Fife, Abernethy Thomas Wallace 4 1887 born: Fife, Kettle John Moncrieff 26
..shows another daughter Maggie N. Wallace.
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Catherine
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29 Sep 2016 11:32 |
A tree on ancestry has this for Jane Petrie:-
Birth: 1853–1858 - Fife, Scotland Marriage: 3 Jan 1882 - Cupar, Fife, Scotland Death: 20 Mar 1940 - Auchtermuchty, Fife, Scotland Parents: George Petrie, Margaret Nicol Spouse: George Wallace
George born about 1862
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29 Sep 2016 12:36 |
Jane and Georgina in 1911 by the looks of it - in Lochgelly
WALLACE GEORGINA 1911 F 19 405/2 5/ 17 Lochgelly Fife
WALLACE JANE 1911 F 53 405/2 5/ 17 Lochgelly Fife ----------- Georgina S Wallace and David Haldane marry 1912 in Lochgelly ----------- Possibly Georgina's birth
WALLACE GEORGINA SIMPSO F 1892 405/ 47 Auchterderran
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greyghost
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29 Sep 2016 13:06 |
? Birth Maggie N Wallace
WALLACE MARGARET NICOL F 1884 326/ 38 Abernethy (Perth)
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ArgyllGran
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29 Sep 2016 17:46 |
Georgina's death:
Georgina Haldane in the Australia, Death Index, 1787-1985 Name: Georgina Haldane Death Date: 12 Feb 1950 Death Place: Queensland Father's name: George Wallace Mother's name: Jane Petrie Registration Year: 1950 Registration Place: Queensland Registration Number: 000042 Page Number: 946
Georgina Haldane in the Australia and New Zealand, Find A Grave Index, 1800s-Current Name: Georgina Haldane Death Date: 1950 Cemetery: Bowen General Cemetery Burial or Cremation Place: Bowen, Whitsunday Region, Queensland, Australia Has Bio?: N URL: http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-...
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ArgyllGran
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29 Sep 2016 17:59 |
David's death:
David Gibb Haldane in the Australia, Death Index, 1787-1985 Name: David Gibb Haldane Death Date: 25 Apr 1955 Death Place: Queensland Father's name: David Mother's name: Isabella Thomson Registration Year: 1955 Registration Place: Queensland Registration Number: 001363 Page Number: 1032
He must have visted the UK ;
David Gibb Haldane in the UK, Outward Passenger Lists, 1890-1960 Name: David Gibb Haldane Gender: Male Age: 64 Birth Date: abt 1887 Departure Date: 5 Sep 1951 Port of Departure: London, England Destination Port: Sydney, Australia Ship Name: Himalaya Shipping line: P and O Master: E R Bodley D S C
Last address in UK: 42 Brunswick Road, Edinburgh.
Do you have his war records, Theresa?
David Gibb Haldane in the British Army WWI Pension Records 1914-1920 Name: David Gibb Haldane Gender: Male Birth Date: abt 1887 Birth Place: Kirkcaldy, Fife, Scotland Age: 21 Document Year: 1908 Regimental Number: 8448 Regiment Name: Queen's Own Cameron Highlanders Form Title: Short Service Attestation Number of Images: 6 Family Members: Name Relation to Soldier David Gibb Haldane Self (Head) Alexander Haldane Uncle
David Gibb Haldane in the British Army WWI Service Records, 1914-1920 Name: David Gibb Haldane Gender: Male Birth Date: abt 1887 Birth Place: Kinghorn, Fife, Scotland Enlistment Age: 27 Document Year: 1914 Regiment Name: R Hrs Number of Images: 25 Form Title: Attestation Family Members: Name Relation to Soldier David Gibb Haldane Self (Head)
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29 Sep 2016 18:11 |
Was looking at Birthdate given for Jane Petrie above as 10/1/1850.
Don't suppose Birthdate on below Baptism would be her would it? 16/1/1850.
(not got the geographical knowledge me, lol)
Baptism County Fife Place Wemyss Church name Parish Church Register type Unspecified Register entry number 63 Baptism date 7 Apr 1850 Birth date 16 Jan 1850 Person forename Jane Person sex F Person abode Buckhaven Father forename William Father surname PETRIE Father occupation Weaver Mother forename Janet Mother surname PATULLO
http://www.freereg.org.uk/
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Theresa
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30 Sep 2016 03:43 |
I Greatly appreciate the efforts and information submitted by members. Thank you for all information. I will update info and start searching again. Regards, Theresa Fisher and Lorraine (Wallace).
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ArgyllGran
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30 Sep 2016 08:44 |
PM from Theresa:
Hi, thank you for responding. We are looking for the Scottish ancestry and beyond. Mum has lived the Australian side of it and I am helping her. She has most of the Australian info although there has been some "unknown" births revealed yet no luck in finding documents to support. We were having difficulty finding George's parents and i told mum the dates must be wrong. I will talk to her when she gets back to my place and work out our plan from there. I truly did not imagine the great response we have had. Once again, thank you. Regards Theresa
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ArgyllGran
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30 Sep 2016 08:53 |
Jane's birth, from SP:
PETRIE JANE F 1858 406/ 84 Auchtermuchty
And from FS (presumably the same person ?):
Jane Petrie Scotland Births and Baptisms Name Jane Petrie Gender Female Birth Date 05 Nov 1858 Birthplace AUCHTERMUCHTY,FIFE,SCOTLAND Father's Name Robert Petrie Mother's Name Marion Speedie
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ArgyllGran
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30 Sep 2016 08:59 |
Her parents' marriage/banns:
Robert Petrie mentioned in the record of Robert Petrie and Marrion Speedie Name Robert Petrie Spouse's Name Marrion Speedie Event Date 17 Jan 1847 Event Place Auchtermuchty,Fife,Scotland
And another version (or other reading of banns):
Robt. Petrie mentioned in the record of Robt. Petrie and Marion Speedie Name Robt. Petrie Spouse's Name Marion Speedie Event Date 15 Jan 1847 Event Place Kettle,Fife,Scotland
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ArgyllGran
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30 Sep 2016 09:06 |
Jane Petrie in the 1881 Scotland Census Name: Jane Petrie Age: 21 Estimated birth year: abt 1860 Relationship: Daughter Father's name: Robert Petrie Mother's name: Marion Petrie Gender: Female Where born: Auchtermuchty, Fifeshire Registration Number: 406 Registration district: Auchtermuchty Civil Parish: Auchtermuchty County: Fife Address: Dunshalt Occupation: Linen Factory Worker ED: 3 Household schedule number: 88 LINE: 24 Roll: cssct1881_113 Household Members: Name Age Robert Petrie 65 - gardener Marion Petrie 65 Jane Petrie 21 - linen factory worker William Niven 4 - grandson
Jane Petris in the 1871 Scotland Census Name: Jane Petris [Jane Petrie] Age: 11 Estimated birth year: abt 1860 Relationship: Daughter Father's name: Robert Petris Mother's name: Marrion Petris Gender: Female Where born: Dumholt, fifeshire Registration Number: 406 Registration district: Auchtermuchty Civil Parish: Auchtermuchty County: Fife Occupation: Scholar ED: 3 Household schedule number: 12 LINE: 23 Roll: CSSCT1871_69 Household Members: Name Age Robert Petris 55 Marrion Petris 53 Margaret Petris 21 Jo Anne Petris 13 Jane Petris 11
Jane Petrie in the 1861 Scotland Census Name: Jane Petrie Age: 2 Estimated birth year: abt 1859 Relationship: Daughter Father's name: Robert Petrie Mother's name: Marion Petrie Gender: Female Where born: Auchtermuchty, fifeshire Registration Number: 406 Registration district: Auchtermuchty Civil Parish: Auchtermuchty County: Fife Address: 125 House ED: 3 Household schedule number: 122 LINE: 17 Roll: CSSCT1861_53 Household Members: Name Age Robert Petrie 45 Marion Petrie 43 George Petrie 14 Alexander S Petrie 8 Joanna S Petrie 4 Jane Petrie 2 Mary Petrie 12
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ArgyllGran
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30 Sep 2016 09:11 |
Robert Petrie in the 1851 Scotland Census Name: Robert Petrie Age: 36 Estimated birth year: abt 1815 Relationship: Head Spouse: Maria Petrie Gender: Male Where born: Auchtermuchty, fife Parish Number: 406 Civil Parish: Auchtermuchty Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps: View related Ecclesiastical Parish Town: Dunshelt County: Fife Address: Dunshelt Occupation: Labourer, 'agre' ED: 2 Page: 29 Household schedule number: 129 LINE: 5 Roll: CSSCT1851_84 Household Members: Name Age Robert Petrie 36 Maria Petrie 30 George Petrie 4 Margaret Petrie 2
??? Marian Speedy in the 1841 Scotland Census Name: Marian Speedy Age: 22 Estimated birth year: abt 1819 Gender: Female Where born: Scotland Civil Parish: Kettle County: Fife Address: Clatto Barns Parish Number: 435 Household Members: Name Age Alex Speedy 60 - farmer Margaret Speedy 50 Marian Speedy 22 Alexander Speedy 20 Jane Speedy 17 Andrew Speedy 15 James Speedy 13 Wm Gaddie 20 - Agricultural labourer Elizabeth Recher 30 - farm servant
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greyghost
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30 Sep 2016 11:02 |
I'm wondering about this one for the birth of George Wallace. George Wallace Scotland Births and Baptisms Name George Wallace Gender Male Birth Date 14 Oct 1862 Birthplace DAIRSIE,FIFE,SCOTLAND Father's Name Thomas Wallace Mother's Name Catherine Simpson
It would make sense that his daughter Georgina was given the middle name of Simpson.
The 2 census shown above have him born c 1863 and I'll repeat the 1901, this time from Find My Past which shows his birth place as Dairsie not Davisie
1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 37, Main Street, Lochgelly, Ballingry, Fife, Scotland
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place George Wallace Head Married Male 38 1863 Labourer Coal Mine Above Ground Dairsie, Fife, Scotland Jane Wallace Wife Married Female 42 1859 - Auchtermuchty, Fife, Scotland Thomas Wallace Son Single Male 14 1887 Coal Miner Drawer Kingskettle, Fife, Scotland Georgina S Wallace Daughter - Female 10 1891 Scholar Lochgelly, Fife, Scotland
1891 shows him born Newmill, Cupar, Fife less 2 miles from Dairsie
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greyghost
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30 Sep 2016 11:27 |
1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Cot House, Kilmany, Fife, Scotland
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Thomas Wallace Head Married Male 44 1837 Ag Lab Largo, Fife, Scotland Catherine Wallace Wife Married Female 44 1837 - Tayport, Fife, Scotland Agnes B Wallace Daughter - Female 3 1878 - Cupar, Fife, Scotland
-------------------------------------- 1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Earlseat Farm, Wemyss, Fife, Scotland
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Thomas Wallace Head Married Male 34 1837 Agricultural Labourer Largo, Fife, Scotland Catherine Wallace Wife Married Female 34 1837 - Fife, Scotland William Wallace Son Unmarried Male 14 1857 Agricultural Labourer Fife, Scotland Anne Wallace Daughter - Female 12 1859 Scholar Logie, Fife, Scotland George Wallace Son - Male 8 1863 Scholar Logie, Fife, Scotland
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greyghost
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30 Sep 2016 11:29 |
? Marriage - Name Thomas Wallace Spouse's Name Chathrine Simpson Event Date 21 Jun 1856 Event Place Ferry Port On Craig,Fife,Scotland
Ferry Port also known as Tayport where Catherine shows as born on the 1881
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