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But he wasn't dead

In 1901 now Margaret is listed as widowed - but with more children born in Cheshire:

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
20, Derby Street, Birkenhead, Cheshire, England

Margaret Parry Head Widow Female 45 1856 - Holyhead, Anglesey, Wales
Margaret J Parry Daughter Single Female 23 1878 - Bangor, Caernarvonshire, Wales
William T Parry Son Single Male 19 1882 Plasterer's Improver Bangor, Caernarvonshire,
Richard Parry Son Single Male 16 1885 Draper's Porter Bangor, Caernarvonshire,
Edward Parry Son - Male 13 1888 - Bangor, Caernarvonshire, Wales
Hendry T Parry Son - Male 9 1892 - Birkenhead, Cheshire,
Mary E Parry Daughter - Female 5 1896 - Birkenhead, Cheshire,
Griffith Parry Son - Male 3 1898 - Birkenhead, Cheshire,

So one of these are likely to be the death for Owen (not the 1891 death you suggested):

First name(s) OWEN
Last name PARRY
Gender Male
Birth year 1854
Age 47
Death quarter 1
Death year 1901
District BIRKENHEAD
County Cheshire
Volume 8A Page 377

First name(s) OWEN
Last name PARRY
Gender Male
Birth year 1853
Age 45
Death quarter 4
Death year 1898
District BIRKENHEAD
County Cheshire
Volume 8A Page 320

Which child of Owen and Margaret's are you descended from? Edit- I see you mentioned John.

So maybe he is this one

Deaths Dec 1898
Parry Owen 45 Birkenhead 8a 320

He may have gone to Birkenhead for work and Margaret later followed him

I think that's the case Shirley.

Their son John Owen Parry married in 1897- his father is listed as Owen Parry, painter. He's not listed as deceased:

name(s) John Owen Parry (Painter)
Age 21y
Marriage year 1897
Marriage date 09 Oct 1897
Marriage place Tranmere
Parish St. Catherine
Father: Owen Parry (Painter)
Spouse's name(s) Emily Maude Daly
Spouse's age 21y
Bride's father's name John Daly
City or town Tranmere
County Cheshire
Reference item 5 p 91
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He is listed as deceased when their son William marries in 1908:

name(s) William Thomas Parry
Age 26y
Marriage year 1908
Marriage date 19 Sep 1908
Marriage place Tranmere
Parish St. Catherine
Father: Owen Parry (deceased) Painter
Spouse's first name(s) Charlotte
Spouse's last name Mackeaggan
Spouse's age 26y
Bride's father's name Donald Mackeaggan
City or town Tranmere
County Cheshire
Reference item 4 p 95
Record set Cheshire Diocese of Chester parish marriages 1538-1910

1911 ceneus

England Wales & I Scotland Census Transcription
20 Derby Street Birkenhead, Birkenhead, Cheshire, England
Margaret Parry Head Widow Female - 53 1858 Holyhead Transcription
Hendry Thomas Parry Son Single Male Chair Making 18 1893 Birkenhead Transcription
Mary Ellen Parry Daughter Single Female Home 14 1897 Birkenhead Transcription
Griffith Parry Son Single Male School 13 1898 Birkenhead Transcription

Married 33 years 11 children born .9 still living

So married circa 1878

Thsi would tie with this marriage

Marriages Mar 1877
Parry Owen Bangor 11b 644
Rowlands Margaret Bangor 11b 644

I would certainly get the birth cert for John Owen Parry first to see mums maiden name

Agreed- It's always best to work backwards from what you know.


As it's likely this is Owen in 1891, you now know that he has a brother John- this might aid in finding the correct birth for Owen when you get to that point.

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Oxton Road, Birkenhead, Cheshire, England

John Parry Head Married Male 41 1850 Painter House Bangor, Caernarvonshire,
Jane Parry Wife Married Female 41 1850 - Caernarvonshire, Wales
Susannah Jope Servant Single Female 24 1867 General Servant Domestic Bangor, Caernarvonshire
Owen Parry Lodger Married Male 36 1855 Painter Bangor, Caernarvonshire, Wales

Most likely to be the brother's marriage:

Caernarvonshire Marriages Transcription

Groom's name(s) John Parry (Painter, Residence: Birkenhead)
Groom's age 26
Groom's father's name(s) Owen Parry (Painter)
Marriage date 28th June 1874
Spouse's name(s) Jane Hughes (Residence: Bangor)
Parish BANGOR
Bride's age 25
Bride's father's name(s) Humphrey Hughes (Quarryman)

County Caernarvonshire
Country Wales
Page 223
Record set Caernarvonshire Marriages

So this is more likely to be Owen's family:

1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
5, Kyffin Square, Bangor, Caernarvonshire, Wales

Owen Parry Head Married Male 32 1819 Journeyman Painter Bangor, Caernarvonshire,
Jane Parry Wife Married Female 34 1817 - Carnarvon, Caernarvonshire, Wales
Edward Parry Son - Male 9 1842 Scholar Bangor, Caernarvonshire, Wales
Margaret Parry Daughter - Female 4 1847 Scholar Bangor, Caernarvonshire, Wales
John Parry Son - Male 2 1849 - Bangor, Caernarvonshire, Wales
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1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
17, Brittania Street, Bangor, Caernarvonshire, Wales

Owen Parry Head Married Male 43 1818 House Painter Bangor, Caernarvonshire, Wales
Margret Parry Wife Married Female 30 1831 - Bangor, Caernarvonshire, Wales
Edward Parry Son Unmarried Male 18 1843 House Painter Bangor, Caernarvonshire, Wales
Owen Parry Son - Male 6 1855 - Bangor, Caernarvonshire, Wales
Margret Parry Daughter - Female 0 1861 - Bangor, Caernarvonshire, Wales
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1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Britannia Street Britannia Square, Bangor, Caernarvonshire, Wales
Owen Parry Head - Male 53 1818 painter Caernarvonshire, Wales
Margaret Parry Wife - Female 39 1832 - Anglesey, Wales
Mary Parry Daughter - Female 10 1861 - Caernarvonshire, Wales
Richard Parry Son - Male 7 1864 - Caernarvonshire, Wales
William Parry Son - Male 5 1866 - Caernarvonshire, Wales
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1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
5, Britannia Square, Bangor, Caernarvonshire, Wales
Owen Parry Head Married Male 63 1818 Painter Bangor, Caernarvonshire, Wales
Richard Parry Son Single Male 18 1863 Cab Driver Bangor, Caernarvonshire, Wales
William Parry Son Single Male 15 1866 Scholar Bangor, Caernarvonshire, Wales
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Owen born c 1818- first marriage to Jane Jones 1939 (he's listed as painter Kyffin Square). Jane dies in 1856 (Kyffin Square listed on burial). So it is likely that Owen was born in Kyffin Square and his parents were Owen Parry and Jane Jones.

Caernarvonshire Baptisms Transcription

name(s) OWEN WILLIAM PARRY
Baptism year 1853
Baptism date 9 Oct
Baptism place BANGOR
Mother's first name(s) Jane
Father's first name(s) Owen (Painter)
County Caernarvonshire
Country Wales
Record set Caernarvonshire Baptisms
abode: Kyffin Square

and his brother:

Caernarvonshire Baptisms Transcription

name(s) JOHN PARRY
Baptism year 1848
Baptism date 17 Dec
Baptism place BANGOR
Mother's first name(s) Jane
Father's first name(s) Owen (painter)
County Caernarvonshire
Country Wales
Record set Caernarvonshire Baptisms
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Abode: Kyffin Square

I think this is confirmation of Mum's maiden name: John Owen Parry in 1911- his child, Emily, has his mum's surname:

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
54 Balls Road E Bhead, Birkenhead, Cheshire, England

John Owen Parry Head Married Male House Painter 34 1877 Bangor North Wales
Emily Maud Mary Parry Wife Married Female House Work 34 1877 Woodchurch Cheshire
Emily Rowland Parry Daughter Single Female School 12 1899 Birkenhead
John Owen Parry Son Single Male School 11 1900 Birkenhead
Robert Edward Parry Son Single Male School 8 1903 Birkenhead
Herbert George Parry Son Single Male School 7 1904 Birkenhead
Percy Parry Son Single Male - 3 1908 Birkenhead
Eveline Parry Daughter Single Female - 0 1911 Birkenhead

1939:
Parry Household (2 People) 42 Victoria Road , Birkenhead C.B., Cheshire, England
John O Parry 11 Mar 1877 Male House Painter Married
Emily M M Parry 06 Mar 1877 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married

You might find further info in Welsh Newspapers:
http://newspapers.library.wales

31st January 1879 North Wales Express:
Owen Parry, painter, St. Paul's- terrace, said that on the night in question he found the parcel at the passage leading to Dr. Williams' house. I found them about half-past eight. Having showed it first to Henry Thomas, he brought it down to the police station. Tho parcel produced was the one...

(the one that died 1891)

Chris :)

Carnarvon and Denbigh Herald and North and South…6th February 1891

BANGOR. FATAL ACCIDENT, -Owen Parry, a carter in the employ of Mr John Williams, general merchant, met with a fatal accident on Wednesday afternoon. He was driving a lorry, and, the horses bolting, he was thrown off his seat and fell, one of the wheels passing over his head. He was removed to the infirmary, but died soon after admission.'He leaves a widow and seven children.


The Rhyl Advertiser 21st June 1879

NON-MAINTENANCE.
Owen Parry, of Liverpool, was summoned at the instance… (for neglecting to contribute towards the maintenance of his father, at present an inmate of the workhouse)


(other Deaths on below, if anything else there)

http://www.cheshirebmd.org.uk/index.php


Cheshire Death indexes for the years: 1898

PARRY Owen 45 Birkenhead Wirral BIR/113/19


Cheshire Death indexes for the years: 1901

PARRY Owen 47 Wallasey Wirral WAL/41/16

Potty, I,ll try the Birth Cert first. Thanks.

AustinQ, Shirley, You're right, i may have jumped the gun there. I'll apply for Birth Certs for Owen and John Owen and take it from there. Many Thanks.

Edit: I,ve just seen your further replies. A lot of work there. My Thanks to you all. I'll work my way thru' them.