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Son James Charles Mowbray born 31/8/1903 Drayton Shropshire married in USA 2/7/1927 says parents were James C Mowbray and Louise Bex,he married Marion Agnes Jeavons.

Maryb

Hold on- Let me just slow down a minute- think I need a tea! Yes Reginald was born in Newport- just found his birth:

First name(s) REGINALD WILLIAM T
Last name MOWBRAY
Birth year 1902
Birth quarter 2
District NEWPORT (MONMOUTHSHIRE)
County Monmouthshire
Country Wales
Volume 11A Page 231

I'll be back in a minute!

Mary!! That's fantastic, and ties it all together nicely

Liverpool to Quebec arrived on ship Lake Champlain on 19/5/1907
James C Mowbray
Louise
James
Reginald.

Maryb

Thank you Mary- this is fantastic

Kevin you can view the original 1907 passenger list on familysearch.org (as well as Detroit Manifests of Arrivals at the Port of Detroit 1909- and many other documents relating to this family)

I wanted to say this is fantastic and has moved onmy research leaps and bounds so a big THANK YOU.
I will try what you suggest but any other help you can give will be wonderful

Right- I have cuppa!

This is the death of Louisa's partner James Mowbray:

Name: James C Mowbray
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Married
Birth Date: Oct, 1877
Birth Place: London England
Death Date: 28 May 1944
Death Place: Ann Arbor, Washtenaw, Michigan, USA
Death Age: 66
File Number: 008493
Father: William Mowbray
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Can anyone find a death for Louisa? She married John Barbrake in 1946 but a divorce was granted in 1950 so not sure if she remarried or what name she died under.

1920 US Census:

Name Louise Mowbray
Event Type Census
Event Date 1920
Event Place Erin, Macomb, Michigan, United States
Gender Female
Age 41
Marital Status Married
Race White
Race (Original) White
Can Read Yes
Can Write Yes
Relationship to Head of Household Wife
Birth Year (Estimated) 1879
Birthplace England
Immigration Year 1905
Father's Birthplace England
Mother's Birthplace England
Sheet Letter A
Sheet Number 7

Charles J Mowbray Head M 42 England
Louise Mowbray Wife F 41 England
Reginild Mowbray Son M 17 England
James Ch. Mowbray Son M 16 England
Marjorie Mowbray Daughter F 8 Michigan
Marion Mowbray Daughter F 2 Michigan
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1940 US Census:

Name Louise E Mowbray
Event Type Census
Event Date 1940
Event Place Hamburg Township, Livingston, Michigan, United States
Gender Female
Age 62
Marital Status Married
Race (Original) White
Race White
Relationship to Head of Household Wife
Birthplace England
Birth Year (Estimated) 1878
Last Place of Residence Same House

James C Mowbray Head M 64 England
Louise E Mowbray Wife F 62 England
Margery M Rivard Daughter F 28 Michigan
Vincent J Rivard Son-in-law M 31 Canada
Marion Mowbray Daughter F 22 Michigan
Patty Ann Taylor Granddaughter F 5 Michigan

I have to go out now- I'll hopefully have a chance to take another look later.

I so had to go for another cup of tea.
Right back to it

A tree on Ancestry suggests louise died 1964 but nothing to back it up and I can't find anything!

Maryb

(well, seems to have taken off!, not long in, will 'catch up')

Chris :)

More the merrier Chris- this is turning into an epic! :-D

(and we've had a few of them on here, I can tell you, lol)

Chris :)

(below needs looking at, just adding for now, if relating!)

11 March 1905 - Ludlow Advertiser - Ludlow, Shropshire, England

SALESMAN SENT TO PRISON.
James Charles Mowbray (28). was indicted for fraudulently converting to his own use eight knee aprons, one pony harness, nine head collars, 24 whips, and numerous other articles. Prisoner was found guilty and was sentenced to three months hard labour.

(makes mention of articles stolen from William H. Sturgess and others, trading as Farme's Supply Company, Market Drayton)

I've just had another look for Louisa's death. The 1964 date on the tree on Ancestry may well be correct. The Michigan death records on Ancestry aren't complete and most sites go upto 1952.

If she stayed within the Washtenaw or Livingston area I don't think we'll find the death online (although would love someone to tell me differently!)

This is the record of crime stated in the newspaper (think it's our bloke):

England & Wales, Crime, Prisons & Punishment, 1770-1935

First name(s) James Charles
Last name Mowbray
Age 28
Birth year 1877
Occupation Salesman
Year 1905
Date 06 Mar 1905
County Salop
Court Shrewsbury
Victim's first name(s) William Henry
Victim's last name Sturgess
Series HO140
Source A Calendar Of Prisoners Tried At The Winter Assizes For The Year 1905

He got three months hard labour for stealing aprons, a harness and 24 whips from Mr Sturgess!

loving it Chris!
Incidentaly I have contacted the Detroit society of Geneologists to see if any of their volunteers can come up with anything on Louise

Good move Kevin- it would be great to get her death confirmed to complete the story.

(no time to investigate further at moment, has below been discussed?, Father William, Leyton again!)

Chris :)

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Low Leyton, West Ham, Essex, England

Mowbray James 1877 — 1901


Edits (as below was posted earlier)

This is the death of Louisa's partner James Mowbray:

Name: James C Mowbray
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Married
Birth Date: Oct, 1877
Birth Place: London England
Death Date: 28 May 1944
Death Place: Ann Arbor, Washtenaw, Michigan, USA
Death Age: 66
File Number: 008493
Father: William Mowbray