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Found Annie Muriel New she was living in Brighton under the name of Smith in 1939 - she married an Arthur W Smith in 1971

No worries Chris- it says she was a nurse in the asylum. I have contacted the archives there to see if there is anymore info on her, employment records etc.

I'm going to order what I think is the correct birth cert for Louisa Cole and see what that says
Thanks all ;-)

(is this on here anywhere?, from FMP, should be on Ancestry, also image next page)

Chris :)

Mowbray Louise 1878 — 1909 United States, Canadian Border Crossings Vermont, United States

(nearest relative/address in country whence alien came. Mother, Mary Cole, Enfield, Middlesex, England. (Boys) Grd Father, Wm Mowbray, Victoria Road, Market Drayton, (Shropshire)

(with Reginald Wm. (7) James Charles (6)


(Matches 1911 address, Shropshire)


(no idea Kevin, if there are any!, but always worth a check in 'Search All Member Trees' (top right of page here, under 'Search') sometimes other Genes Members are sharing)

(possible for James Bex)


(oh dear!, on below looks like wife Louisa Mowbray is in London Insane Asylum, London, Canada?...last left Detroit, Mich.)

(or not sure if for the Passenger below, although for him, says 'no relatives')

Mowbray James C 1879 - 1909 United States, Canadian Border Crossings Vermont, United States (Find My Past)

(comes up on 'google search, Asylum mentioned on above)


(on same Crossing Record, James Bex, and Wife Mary, gives his nearest relative, Sister, Emma Wilmot, 50 Fotheringham Road, Enfield)


Marriages Mar 1882 (>99%)
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BEX Emma Elizabeth Islington 1b 385
WILLMOTT Charles Islington 1b 385

(above also on London, Ancestry)

1911 (Find My Past)
Willmott Eveline E 1851 — 1911 1911 Census for England & Wales Enfield, Edmonton, Middlesex, England
(50, Fotheringham Road)

So all fits nicely Chris!

Baptism for James (child of James and Louisa):

First name(s) James Charles
Last name Mowbray
Gender Male
Baptism year 1903
Baptism date 16 Sep 1903
Residence Market Drayton, Shropshire, England
Place Market Drayton
County Shropshire
Country England
Father's first name(s) James Charles
Father's last name Mowbray
Mother's first name(s) Louisa Elizabeth
Mother's last name Mowbray
Record set England Births & Baptisms 1538-1975

(oh right, lol, noticed William/Sarah are in Market Drayton, Shropshire 1911)

Chris :)

Yep- death posted above Chris! :-D

full 1901:

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Cycle Track, 6, Lea Bridge Road, Leyton, Low Leyton, West Ham, Essex, England

William Mowbray Head Married Male 48 1853 Sackmaker Canvas London,
Sarah Mowbray Wife Married Female 52 1849 - London, England
James Mowbray Son Single Male 24 1877 Sackmaker Canvas London,
Thomas Mowbray Son Single Male 21 1880 Clerk (Bookbinders) Clerkenwell, Middlesex,
Mabel Mowbray Daughter Single Female 3 1898 - Walthamstow, Essex,
Rose Ansell Servant - Female 17 1884 Servant (Genrl) Mildenhall, Suffolk,
Ernest Tice Servant Single Female 16 1885 Carman London, England

(no time to investigate further at moment, has below been discussed?, Father William, Leyton again!)

Chris :)

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Low Leyton, West Ham, Essex, England

Mowbray James 1877 — 1901


Edits (as below was posted earlier)

This is the death of Louisa's partner James Mowbray:

Name: James C Mowbray
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Married
Birth Date: Oct, 1877
Birth Place: London England
Death Date: 28 May 1944
Death Place: Ann Arbor, Washtenaw, Michigan, USA
Death Age: 66
File Number: 008493
Father: William Mowbray

Good move Kevin- it would be great to get her death confirmed to complete the story.

loving it Chris!
Incidentaly I have contacted the Detroit society of Geneologists to see if any of their volunteers can come up with anything on Louise

This is the record of crime stated in the newspaper (think it's our bloke):

England & Wales, Crime, Prisons & Punishment, 1770-1935

First name(s) James Charles
Last name Mowbray
Age 28
Birth year 1877
Occupation Salesman
Year 1905
Date 06 Mar 1905
County Salop
Court Shrewsbury
Victim's first name(s) William Henry
Victim's last name Sturgess
Series HO140
Source A Calendar Of Prisoners Tried At The Winter Assizes For The Year 1905

He got three months hard labour for stealing aprons, a harness and 24 whips from Mr Sturgess!

I've just had another look for Louisa's death. The 1964 date on the tree on Ancestry may well be correct. The Michigan death records on Ancestry aren't complete and most sites go upto 1952.

If she stayed within the Washtenaw or Livingston area I don't think we'll find the death online (although would love someone to tell me differently!)

(and we've had a few of them on here, I can tell you, lol)

Chris :)

(below needs looking at, just adding for now, if relating!)

11 March 1905 - Ludlow Advertiser - Ludlow, Shropshire, England

SALESMAN SENT TO PRISON.
James Charles Mowbray (28). was indicted for fraudulently converting to his own use eight knee aprons, one pony harness, nine head collars, 24 whips, and numerous other articles. Prisoner was found guilty and was sentenced to three months hard labour.

(makes mention of articles stolen from William H. Sturgess and others, trading as Farme's Supply Company, Market Drayton)

More the merrier Chris- this is turning into an epic! :-D

(well, seems to have taken off!, not long in, will 'catch up')

Chris :)

A tree on Ancestry suggests louise died 1964 but nothing to back it up and I can't find anything!

Maryb

I so had to go for another cup of tea.
Right back to it

I have to go out now- I'll hopefully have a chance to take another look later.

1920 US Census:

Name Louise Mowbray
Event Type Census
Event Date 1920
Event Place Erin, Macomb, Michigan, United States
Gender Female
Age 41
Marital Status Married
Race White
Race (Original) White
Can Read Yes
Can Write Yes
Relationship to Head of Household Wife
Birth Year (Estimated) 1879
Birthplace England
Immigration Year 1905
Father's Birthplace England
Mother's Birthplace England
Sheet Letter A
Sheet Number 7

Charles J Mowbray Head M 42 England
Louise Mowbray Wife F 41 England
Reginild Mowbray Son M 17 England
James Ch. Mowbray Son M 16 England
Marjorie Mowbray Daughter F 8 Michigan
Marion Mowbray Daughter F 2 Michigan
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1940 US Census:

Name Louise E Mowbray
Event Type Census
Event Date 1940
Event Place Hamburg Township, Livingston, Michigan, United States
Gender Female
Age 62
Marital Status Married
Race (Original) White
Race White
Relationship to Head of Household Wife
Birthplace England
Birth Year (Estimated) 1878
Last Place of Residence Same House

James C Mowbray Head M 64 England
Louise E Mowbray Wife F 62 England
Margery M Rivard Daughter F 28 Michigan
Vincent J Rivard Son-in-law M 31 Canada
Marion Mowbray Daughter F 22 Michigan
Patty Ann Taylor Granddaughter F 5 Michigan

Right- I have cuppa!

This is the death of Louisa's partner James Mowbray:

Name: James C Mowbray
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Married
Birth Date: Oct, 1877
Birth Place: London England
Death Date: 28 May 1944
Death Place: Ann Arbor, Washtenaw, Michigan, USA
Death Age: 66
File Number: 008493
Father: William Mowbray
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Can anyone find a death for Louisa? She married John Barbrake in 1946 but a divorce was granted in 1950 so not sure if she remarried or what name she died under.

I wanted to say this is fantastic and has moved onmy research leaps and bounds so a big THANK YOU.
I will try what you suggest but any other help you can give will be wonderful