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Elsie Owen 1880 née Watkins born in Hull

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Elizabeth

Elizabeth Report 29 Aug 2016 10:37

Oooo my!! A thief eh!
Crikey no wonder there was no family anecdotes about Charles.
Thank you all again for your help - it's so appreciated
I'll keep searching and keep you updated
Enjoy the sunshine
Elizabeth

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 29 Aug 2016 16:58

Would have thought that Charles Owen 1931 Grimsby Death Cert. posted below, would be worth a try...

Chris :)

Edits (just to go back on Charles, looking round, Maria Owen Death 1879 Hull. 1881 William Owen (Owens FMP) Widower, has a Son John T. Johnson, in household of Isaac Williamson. 1891 William Owen, Widower, Painter. Ties in with Marriage Dea posted earlier, where William was a Painter)

(But, Charles and Harriet not with William 1881 or 1891, wondered as Maria came from Lincs. if there was a 'connection' somewhere to 1911)

(1911 Hull John Thomas Johnson, Trawl Fisherman, married with children, daughter Maria. Marriage 1893 Mary Ann Roberts)


Births Mar 1870 (>99%)
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Johnson John Thomas Hull 9d 229 (fits with 1881)


Marriages Dec 1871 (>99%)
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JOHNSON Maria Hull 9d 509
Owen William Hull 9d 509


1871 FMP, as below. Hull
Maria Johnson Niece (of John and Harriet Carrick) - Female 19 1852 - Lincolnshire, England
William Owen Boarder (Painter) - Male 24 1847 - Yorkshire, England


Yorkshire Death indexes for the years: 1879

OWEN Maria 28 Drypool Hull DRY/16/6


28 February 1893 - Hull Daily Mail - Hull, East Riding of Yorkshire,

THIS DAY'S POLICE.
Robbing his Father Charles Owen, a young man, was charged on remand with stealing articles of clothing, valued at £6, from the house 16, Marfleet Terrace, Craven-street, the property of William Owen, his father...(Prisoner said he was drunk at the time)

Elizabeth

Elizabeth Report 29 Aug 2016 18:44

I'll give it a try and let you know

Elizabeth

Elizabeth Report 30 Aug 2016 13:40

Oooo so much information thank you!!

I'm loving this

Can anyone tell me what the abbreviation FMP means? I see it cropping up from time to time

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 30 Aug 2016 14:02

Find My Past Elizabeth...

Chris :)

I'm not seeing Harriet that Dea found Marriage for 1893, on 1881, or Elizabeth Owen (Sister) who is witness to that Marriage, she Marries William Alfred Bottomley 1902 (easy up to 1939 Register)

Below is William Owen, with John (the one born a year before Marriage)

1881 (FMP)
Isaac Williamson Head Married Male 62 1819 Shoe Maker Mansfield, Nottinghamshire, England
Janet Williamson Wife Married Female 62 1819 - Mansfield, Nottinghamshire, England
William Owens Son Widower Male 32 1849 Painter Hull, Yorkshire, England
John T Johnson Son Single Male 10 1871 Scholar Hull, Yorkshire, England
William Jones Lodger Single Male 34 1847 Shoe Maker Boston, Lincolnshire, England
42, Naylors Row, Southcoates, Sculcoates, Yorkshire


1891 (FMP)
William Owen Head Widower Male 43 1848 Painter Hull, Yorkshire, England
John Williams Place, Holderness Road, Southcoates, Sculcoates


1901 (FMP)
Rose A Mills Head Widow Female 68 1833 - Hull, Yorkshire, England
William Owen Lodger Widower Male 53 1848 Painter Hull, Yorkshire, England
7, Nornabell Street Wilsons Terrace, Kingston upon Hull, Sculcoates


(so somewhere 1881, 1891 should be children!. All puzzling, to say the least, lol)


Yorkshire Marriage indexes for the years: 1847

OWEN James WHITE Jane St Marks Hull HMK/1/128

(as above are on 1851 with a William, did wonder if they were Parents, and Jane the Williamson on 1881)