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25 Jul 2016 19:02 |
1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Learn more Print transcription View image First name(s) Elijah Last name Norrish Relationship Pauper Marital status - Gender Female Age 20 Birth year 1851 Occupation - Birth town - Birth county Nottinghamshire Birth county as transcribed NOTTINGHAMSHIRE Birth place England House name - Street Outgang Lane Radford Union Parish Radford Town - City - County Nottinghamshire Country England Registration district Radford Archive reference RG10 Piece number 3502 Folio 55 Page 3 Record set 1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Category Census, land & surveys Subcategory Census Collections from Great Britain
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Nottsgirl
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25 Jul 2016 19:02 |
Hi again,
I found a Elizabeth Ann Norrish marrying a John Nightinggale in Nottingham in 1885 and on the 1891 census she is a widow living with and Alfred Bromley and a Clara Norris who was born in Australia so I think the 1881 census that ArgyllGran found is right but Clara's birth she found is wrong or has the wrong mother's name down.
I'll check the 1885 marriage when I'm in the archives.
Wendy
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25 Jul 2016 19:06 |
Hi safc,
Yes that could be her in 1871 but where was William and when did they go to Australia??
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25 Jul 2016 19:11 |
Right it now looks like she married Alfred Dawson Bramley (the above Alfred Bromley) in June 1891.
Wendy
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25 Jul 2016 22:15 |
The 1891 mentioned by Nottsgirl:
Clara Norris in the 1891 England Census Name: Clara Norris Age: 13 Estimated birth year: abt 1878 Relation: Boarder Gender: Female Where born: Australia Civil Parish: St Mary Ecclesiastical parish: St Stephen Town: Nottingham County/Island: Nottinghamshire Country: England Street address: Registration district: Nottingham Sub registration district: Nottingham North East ED, institution, or vessel: 2 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 2693 Folio: 19 Page Number: 13 Household Members: Name Age Alfred Brandley 42 - widower Elizabeth Nightingale 39 - widow, servant (housekeeper), born Beeston Clara Norris 13
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ArgyllGran
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25 Jul 2016 22:15 |
Just a slight possibility - but if this is Elizabeth, she's alone - no husband or children with her:
Elizabeth Norris in the New South Wales, Australia, Unassisted Immigrant Passenger Lists, 1826-1922
Name: Elizabeth Norris Port of Departure: London Port of Arrival: Sydney, New South Wales Voyage Arrival Date: 15 Jan 1878 Vessel Name: Peterborough
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NO. another record says this one's from Lancashire.
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ArgyllGran
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25 Jul 2016 22:37 |
Bessy/Betsy in 1891 with her grandmother:
Bessie Norriss in the 1891 England Census Name: Bessie Norriss Age: 18 Estimated birth year: abt 1873 Relation: Granddaughter Gender: Female Where born: Coventry, Warwickshire, England Civil Parish: Sidmouth Ecclesiastical parish: Sidmouth Town: Sidmouth County/Island: Devon Country: England Street address: Registration district: Honiton ED, institution, or vessel: 19 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 1673 Folio: 57 Page Number: 4 Household Members: Name Age Elizabeth Norriss 61 - married, lodging house keeper Bessie Norriss 18 - general domestic servant
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25 Jul 2016 22:42 |
Bessie Russell in the 1901 England Census Name: Bessie Russell Age: 27 Estimated birth year: abt 1874 Relation to Head: Wife Gender: Female Spouse: Fredrick R E Russell Birth Place: Coventry, Warwickshire, England Civil Parish: Sidmouth Ecclesiastical parish: Sidmouth Town: Sidmouth County/Island: Devon Country: England Registration district: Honiton Sub-registration district: Ottery St Mary ED, institution, or vessel: 18 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 2024 Folio: 146 Page Number: 3 Household schedule number: 18 Household Members: Name Age Fredrick R E Russell 30 - postman Bessie Russell 27 - lodging house keeper Horace Russell 5 - son Elsie Russell 3 - daughter Elizabeth Norrish 73 - grandmother, mother's help Lucy Norrish 16 - servant, born Nottingham Lucy M Roberts 29 - boarder Ethel E Roberts 27 - boarder Fannie L Yeoman 30 - boarder Beatrice E Bond 32 - boarder
Marriages Dec 1894 (>99%) Norrish Bessie Honiton 5b 77 Russell Frederick Robert E Honiton 5b 77
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25 Jul 2016 22:46 |
Bessie Russell in the 1911 England Census Name: Bessie Russell Age in 1911: 37 Estimated birth year: abt 1874 Relation to Head: Wife Gender: Female Birth Place: Daventry Civil Parish: Sidmouth County/Island: Devon Country: England Street address: 1 Prospect Place, Sidmouth Marital Status: Married Years Married: 17 Estimated Marriage Year: 1894 Registration district: Honiton Registration District Number: 269 Sub-registration district: Ottery St Mary ED, institution, or vessel: 17 Household schedule number: 49 Piece: 12568 Household Members: Name Age Frederick Russell 40 Bessie Russell 37 Horace Russell 15 Elsie Russell 13 William Russell 9 Dora Russell 7 Elizabeth Norrish 84 - wife's grandmother, married (and a servant and three visitors)
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26 Jul 2016 13:42 |
Thank you ArgyllGran that's brilliant. Now you have though another name in the mix Lucy Norrish on the 1901 census.
Wendy
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26 Jul 2016 14:04 |
Marriages Sep 1901 (>99%) HOUGH Maude Nottingham 7b 730 Knighton John Albert Nottingham 7b 730 MOISEY George Nottingham 7b 730 NORRISH Clara Maud A Nottingham 7b 730
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26 Jul 2016 14:06 |
Births Sep 1913 (>99%) Moisey Doris W Norrish Nottingham 7b 686
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26 Jul 2016 14:12 |
i, Hermitage-row. -M-l Hereby Give Notice, that I shall not be sible for any debt or debts contracted in name my wife. CLARA MOISEY, after this date, November 30. 19(J9. c (Signed) G. MOISEY. HOUSE, facing Sneinton New Park. Cnrlton-road; thrw bedrooms 30 November 1909 - Nottingham Evening Post - Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England
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26 Jul 2016 14:13 |
Thank you safc that's brilliant you are a star.
Wendy
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26 Jul 2016 14:38 |
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Clara I Moisey on the 1939 Register
1939 Register Transcription
Moisey Household (2 People) 56 Sneinton Hollows , Nottingham C.B., Nottinghamshire, England Attach to tree View original image Print First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule Sub Number Clara I Moisey 09 May 1902 Female Lockstitch Machinist - 158 2 Clara M Moisey 05 Aug ? Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Single 158 1
theres a bit of tape stuck over clara m birth year
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26 Jul 2016 14:38 |
Lucy in 1911 ??
Lucy Norrish in the 1911 England Census Name: Lucy Norrish Age in 1911: 24 Estimated birth year: abt 1887 Relation to Head: Servant Gender: Female Birth Place: Nottingham Lenton, Nottinghamshire, England Civil Parish: Matlock County/Island: Derbyshire Country: England Marital Status: Single Occupation: Housemaid Waitress Registration district: Bakewell Registration District Number: 439 Sub-registration district: Matlock ED, institution, or vessel: 17 Piece: 21215
Lucy Norrish in the England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915 Name: Lucy Norrish Registration Year: 1886 Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun Registration district: Nottingham Inferred County: Nottinghamshire Volume: 7b Page: 389
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Lucy Askew in the Michigan, Death Records, 1867-1950 Name: Lucy Askew [Lucy Norrish] Gender: Female Marital Status: Married Birth Date: Mar, 1886 Birth Place: Nottingham England Death Date: 3 Apr 1924 Death Place: Detroit, Wayne, Michigan, USA Death Age: 38 File Number: 038156 Father: Edwin Norrish Mother: Agnes Ley
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26 Jul 2016 14:40 |
Gravestone says her husband was John Askew.
Lucy Askew in the U.S., Find A Grave Index, 1600s-Current Name: Lucy Askew Birth Date: 1886 Death Date: 1924 Cemetery: Woodmere Cemetery Burial or Cremation Place: Detroit, Wayne County, Michigan, USA Has Bio?: N URL: http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-...
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Marriages Sep 1913 (>99%) Askew John H Norriah Nottingham 7b 776 Norrish Lucy Askew Nottingham 7b 776
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26 Jul 2016 14:42 |
Her parents in 1881:
Edwin Norrish in the 1881 England Census Name: Edwin Norrish Age: 27 Estimated birth year: abt 1854 Relationship to Head: Head Spouse: Agnes Norrish Gender: Male Where born: Exeter, Devon, England Civil Parish: Lenton County/Island: Nottinghamshire Country: England Street address: 1 Britannia Square Marital Status: Married Occupation: Lace Maker Registration district: Nottingham ED, institution, or vessel: 3 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 3340 Folio: 56 Page Number: 15 Household Members: Name Age Edwin Norrish 27 Agnes Norrish 25 Elizabeth Norrish 4 William Norrish 2 Edwin Norrish Emma Lee 14
Edwin Norrish in the 1861 England Census Name: Edwin Norrish Age: 8 Estimated birth year: 1853 Relation: Son Father's name: William Norrish Mother's name: Elizabeth Norrish Gender: Male Where born: Tiverton, Devon, England Civil Parish: Snenton County/Island: Nottinghamshire Country: England Registration district: Radford Sub-registration district: Snenton ED, institution, or vessel: 2 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 91 Piece: 2451 Folio: 29 Page Number: 17 Household Members: Name Age William Norrish 31 Elizabeth Norrish 33 William Norrish 10 Edwin Norrish 8 Thomas Norrish 1
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26 Jul 2016 14:52 |
I wonder if Edwin's brother William could be the husband of your Elizabeth Norrish, and father of Bessie, and presumably Clara?
Elizabeth's age is a couple of years out from her actual birth on the marriage record, so William's could be too.
I did wonder if they might both have lied about their ages in order to get married - though their parents would have had to be in on that!
(That's assuming the marriage is the 1867 Derby one posted by safc yesterday at 18:34.)
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26 Jul 2016 14:54 |
OK Thank you ArgyllGran so not William's and Elizabeth daughter then so can leave her out.
Wendy
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