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David

David Report 10 Jun 2016 09:45

William Fowler was born in Fatfield Durham in 1891

His wife Barbara Fox was born in Washington Durham in 1889

They married in Chester le Street Durham in 1914..

I can't find deaths for either of them and wondered if someone could please see if they can be found on the 1939 register.

Any help appreciated.

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 10 Jun 2016 10:12

Seem to have two children

Births Dec 1915
FOWLER William Fox Chester-le-S. 10a 1020
Births Dec 1916
Fowler Thomas Fox Chester le S. 10a 1072

Not picking any of them up on the 1939 register

David

David Report 10 Jun 2016 10:16

Thank you Shirley and yes they did.

I know about the son William but still looking for a possible marriage and death for the son Thomas.

David

David Report 10 Jun 2016 10:30

I found a possible death for the son William Fowler.

William Fowler in the England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: William Fowler
Birth Date: 31 Aug 1915
Date of Registration: Feb 2006
Age at Death: 91
Registration district: Sunderland
Inferred County: Durham
Volume: -1
Page: -1

As none of the family can be found on the 1939 register, I am now beginning to wonder if that death is incorrect and the family emigrated.

David

David Report 10 Jun 2016 10:45

The above death could apply to this chap


Births Sep 1915 (>99%)
Fowler William Craggs Sunderland 10a 1544

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 10 Jun 2016 11:10

Are you sure about Barbara's age? I'm not seeing a birth that matches the info you gave.

EDIT: Barbara was married previously (1911- to James R Fox)

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 10 Jun 2016 11:20

Possible daughter from first marriage:

First name(s) MARGARET A R
Last name FOX
Birth year 1912
Birth quarter 2
Mother's last name HANDCOCK
District CHESTER LE STREET
County Durham
Volume 10A Page 1247

David

David Report 10 Jun 2016 11:28

Austin I didn't know about that daughter so that is a great find.

Hancock is often mis-transcibed as Handcock.

David

David Report 10 Jun 2016 11:48

There are no further details that I can find for a Margaret A R Fox or Fowler if she took on the surname of her step father.

I don't have a world wide subscription so I am stuck at this point.

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 10 Jun 2016 12:11

I wonder if they moved to Scotland?

I don't have any credits for Scotlandspeople but it may be worth checking.

There is a Barbara Fowler marriage to surname Bell in 1917.

There is also this:

FOWLER or BELL or THOM of 13 MossGreen Street, Kelty, Fife died 19 Sept 1965 at Dumfermline Confirmation of John Lamont Thom retired mechanical engineer. Sealed London 14 February.

Perhaps WIlliam died during the war?

David

David Report 10 Jun 2016 12:23

Thank you for your help Austin, it really is very much appreciated.

I will take a look on Miltary to see if I can find anything of interest.

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 10 Jun 2016 12:38

These are only suggestions that I'm throwing in- and moving to Scotland might explain why we can't find them- However, just browsing the newspapers there are references to a Mrs Barbara Fowler- nothing that confirms it's your Barbara.

Friday 13 January 1939 , Sunderland Daily Echo and Shipping Gazette , Tyne and Wear, England
NO RADIO LICENCE Mrs Barbara Fowler, of Ann Street, Hendon, was fined 10s at Sunderland Police Court to-day for working radio set without licence. ..

Tuesday 27 October 1936 , Sunderland Daily Echo and Shipping Gazette , Tyne and Wear, England
SUNDERLAND MAN WHO STOLE PURSE
to-day, in binding over Revill Feorcn (22), of Summerhill, for stealing a purse containing 15s 6d. the property of Mrs Barbara Fowler, of 10 Salem Street.

Wednesday 14 February 1934 , Sunderland Daily Echo and Shipping Gazette , Tyne and Wear, England
DOCTOR CALLED IN
The woman had moved about to various places, and was in Easington Lane last November. Mrs Barbara Fowler, living in Watson's Cottages,
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Despite these references to Mrs Barbara Fowler, I don't see any Barbara Fowler of any age living in Durham on the 1939 register?

David

David Report 10 Jun 2016 12:44

Ok, thank you Austin.

Gee

Gee Report 10 Jun 2016 12:47

I don't have access to this record on Ancestry but I'm guessing someone else will

Name: Thom Barbara Fowler
Death: dd mm 1965 - location
Civil: date - location

Ooops, sorry it's a record already posted!

David

David Report 10 Jun 2016 13:00

Thank you Gins.

Every little bit helps.

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 10 Jun 2016 13:02

Interestingly the Barbara Fowler listed in the 1939 article for having no radio license, did have a son Thomas- according to another newspaper article he is a little younger than your Thomas- but still worth bearing in mind: EDIT- this is the correct Thomas (and is the correct age).

Sunderland Daily Echo and Shipping Gazette - Friday 03 March 1939

Wearsider's fatal fall into Hold

Ship's Dash to Sanfrancisco
The Newcastle Steamer Royal Sceptre made a dash for San Francisco when a Sunderland member of the crew, Thomas Fowler (20) fell 25 feet in a hold and was seriously injured, but on the ship's arrival in port Fowler was dead. His body was landed for burial.

The Rev. Thomas Hardy, chaplain to Sunderland Missions to Seamen, broke the news to his mother, Mrs Fowler, at her home in Ann Street, Hendon today.

Mrs Fowler told the Sunderland Echo representative that she was expecting a letter this week from her son who left Cardiff 5 weeks ago for a voyage to Vancouver. He was 19 when he joined the Royal Sceptre at Sunderland in January last year. He was a native of Washington but came to Sunderland eight years ago and attended Hudson Road Council Schools

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 10 Jun 2016 13:04

Thomas death record (at sea) records his address as 31 Ann Street, Sunderland

Deaths at sea, 1781-1968 Transcription
First name(s) Thomas
Last name Fowler
Gender Male
Birth year 1919
Birth date 1919
Birth place British Sunderland
Death year 1939
Death date 2 Mar 1939
Age 20
Vessel name Royal Sceptre
Departure port -
County AT SEA
Series BT 334
Box 0093
Page 179

Gee

Gee Report 10 Jun 2016 13:14

1939 Register shows the following people living at 31 Ann Street, Sunderland

Joseph & Mary Viney, Thomas Viney
William & Jane Landers
Ralph H Thompson

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 10 Jun 2016 13:20

So where did she go after Thomas' death??

I'm thinking that all the Barbara Fowlers listed in the articles at various addresses might be the same woman.

There is an article dated 1934 that confirms that the Mrs Barbara Fowler at Watson's Cottages had a William Fowler (the correct age to be her son) living at the same address:

Sunderland Daily Echo and Shipping Gazette - Friday 19 January 1934

Jail For Coal Stealers
Sunderland Magistrates committed William Fowler (19) Watson's Cottages to jail for a month for coal stealing, this was his ninth appearance for theft.
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Looking at some of his other appearances it appears that the family moved around a lot. In 1932 William is listed at Margaret Street, Washington

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 10 Jun 2016 13:37

Perhaps she moved right away?

I don't have access but wondered about this one?

Fowler Household Thorne R.D., Yorkshire (West Riding), England
Barbara Fowler 1886
William Fowler and 1 more person are on this record