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The only reason I was searching in Marske by the Sea was the fact that there is a George Scrafton baptised there in 1741; which fitted the date range I have for my George. I wasn't actually looking for Marske but yes it was there in the 1700s. Many Scraftons in Marske by the Sea too - then called Marske in Cleveland.

The George Scrafton I found there seems to have died as an infant thought. I cannot find any other George S. who was born about that time, anywhere.

I have just realised that there is a Marske near Richmond, North Yorkshire (to the west of Richmond) which is quite different from Marske near Redcar. I think the records you have found from Marske would be from the one near Richmond as Marske near Redcar is a relatively new place and I don't think it would have been around in the 1700's.

This makes it even more likely that the person I found living in Richmond today could be a descendant.

Kath. x

Yes Kath it was. Buried with his wife and first son James, either St Mary's Thirsk or St Mary's Bagby nr Thirsk; they're not on the Thirsk church's burial record though so maybe it's Bagby.

Was this the death you found online? :-

First name(s) George
Last name Scrafton
Age 72
Birth year 1742
Burial year 1814
Burial date 27 Nov 1814
Burial place Thirsk
County Yorkshire (North Riding)
Country England
Archive North Yorkshire County Record Office
Archive reference N-PR-TH1-20
Page 11
Record set Yorkshire Burials

Kath. x

Hi Kath, yes I found the details online a few years ago - Family History Online but I now understand that their records are with FInd My Past. I took a break from research for a while and have just returned to it. I have tried to join Find My Past but it keeps declining my payment.

The George L. Scrafton that I mentioned as living in Richmond Yorkshire is a living person who was born in 1954. I just meant that with his name and the fact that he was born so close to where "your" George married Elisabeth Simple that he "could" be a descendant of "your" George.

I found him on the up to date Electoral Register on Findmypast.

Can I just ask how you know the age at death of "your" George Scrafton? Apologies if you have already said as I might have missed it.

Kath. x

Kath - thanks - I realise now you said he could be a descendant. What year in the Roll did you see him please?

I have the descendants already in my tree, they all ended up in Manchester but it's the birthplace of this George born about 1741 that I'm stumped on.

ooh sounds promising Kath, I shall look that up! Thanks! He needs to have been born around 1741

There is someone on the electoral roll living in Richmond, Yorkshire called George L. Scrafton who was born in Northallerton (which is very close to Welbury where the marriage to Elisabeth Simple took place). I wonder if he is a descendant who may have some information that could help you?

Kath. x

Thank you all so much, that is extremely helpful.

It appears that the George Scrafton born in 1741 probably died as an infant - he was the only one I could find that fitted the approximate birthdate of my George.

I think the best option for me now is to try and find out more about the witnesses to his wedding in 1777 in the hope they can lead me to the right George Scrafton! They were Ann Stainsby and Michael Meek.

Thanks so much for your help, everyone, much appreciated!

There is a reason for the 1741/2.

Prior to 1751 the calendar year in England began sometime in late March. So any date in January, February, or early March would come at the end of the year.

In 1751 (I think, or could have been 1752) there was a change to the calendar so the year began on 1 January. So it is common to see dates prior to 1751 expressed as 1741/2, if they are in the months Jan/Feb/Mar.

Your 13 March 1741/2 was at the end of 1741.

Anne

Hi,

have a look at this link it about the year dates as years where different in the early years:

http://www.adsb.co.uk/date_and_time/calendar_reform_1752/

Find My Past has the actual images from Parish Register, looking at above, would say it should be under 1742, a Robert Smith ends 1741, Buried Dec 19, then Thomas Atkinson Jan 4th a couple more then George, under him written 1742...

Chris :)

Wonder why it says 1741/2. Confusing!

(that one could be below, if 1742)

Chris :)

Burial
County Yorkshire, North Riding
Place Marske in Cleveland
Church name St Mark
Register type Unspecified
Burial date 13 Mar 1741/2
Burial person forename George
Relationship son of
Male relative forename John
Relative surname SCRAFTON

http://www.freereg.org.uk/

Yes, this one

George Scrafton
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975


christening:

9 September 1741

MARSKE IN CLEVELAND, YORK, ENGLAND


father:

John Scrafton

Although I cannot prove it yet

is that the one I posted earlier

Thanks but I think this is another one as my George was born 1741/42

George Scrafton
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975


christening:

11 August 1752

MARSKE IN CLEVELAND, YORK, ENGLAND


father:

John Scrafton

Thanks mgnv!