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b 1817 st james,Middlesex,London mother/father not known,joined the army 1837 at bow st, went all over the world after a time in Jamaica and nova scotia, he came home in 1850 he marr Catherine Elizabeth martin she says in all her census she was b in lunngberg America or nova scotia Canada. He went out to Gallipoli to the crimea in the early 1850s he fought in all battles alma,inkaman,balaclava, and servastipol he got the crimea medal plus 4 clasps he was badly wounded at sevastapol in the groin he was then a colour sgt in charge of the 38th regiment of foot, there flags [the reg kept the flag] .
he was sent to scuari barracks hospital in turkey feb 1855 [this was where Florence nightingale was] was not fit to travel home till march 3rd.
He walked with a limp he was then in the deport bn at Winchester he was discharged at horsegards 4 may 1858 and was appointed sgt major in 2nd west yorks militia at inphal barracks York, a Chelsea pensioner till he d 1888
catherine d 1923 they had 11 children.
he was awarded crimea medal with 4 clasps I am happy to say he is my 4xuncle.
what I would like you to do for me is who were james mum/dad and any thing on Catherine Elizabeth martin [her maiden name] born 1833??
regards john harper

Well their marriage cert should name their fathers ,if known

:-)

Marriages Jun 1850
Martin Catherine E London 2 252
Stone James. E London. 2 252.

Catherine Martin

in the London, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921


Name: Catherine Martin, spinster of 10 White Cross? Street
Spouse: James Stone, widower, bricklayer of 10 White Cross? Street
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 9 Jun 1850
Parish: St Giles without Cripplegate
Borough: City of London
Father Name: Philip Waite Martin, waterman
Spouse Father: Joseph Stone, coal porter
[Jospeh Stone]
Register Type: Parish Register


Joseph Stone and Sarah Parsons? were witnesses.

If he was in the army then the occ on that cert doesn't equate

Do you have their marriage cert

A tree on ancestry has this.



james stone

Birth
c1818 • London, England

1818

(AGE)
Marriage
29 Dec 1839 • Parish church, St Giles Cripplegate, London, England

James Stone, bach, bricklayer, 10 Cow Cross, signed. Father, Joseph Stone, carman. Judith Norris, spin, Greenhill (?), her mark. Father, Francis Norris, bookeeper. Wit, (?) Norris, signed, Mary Norris, her mark
judith norris

(1821–1847)

1839

21
Residence
1841 • Cow Cross St, St Sepulchre, Finsbury, London Union West, Middlesex, England

Jas Stone, 24, c1817, married, bricklayer, born this county

1841

23
Death of Wife judith norris(1821–1847)
?1847 • Poplar, London, England

1847

29
Marriage
9 June 1850 • Parish church, St Giles Cripplegate, London, England

E London-2-252-j-1850. James Stone, widower, bricklayer, signed. Father, Joseph Stone, coal porter. Catherine Martin, spin, her mark. Father, Philip Waite Martin, waterman. Both of 10 White Cross St. Wit, Joseph Stone, Sarah Parsons
catherine martin

(1819–)

1850

32
Residence
1851 • 5 Chapter St, Westminster St John the Evangelist, Middlesex, England

James Stone, 33, c1818, married, bricklayer, b City of London



Catherine Martin

Birth
c1819 • Southwark, London, England

1819

(AGE)
Marriage
9 June 1850 • Parish church, St Giles Cripplegate, London, England

E London-2-252-j-1850. James Stone, widower, bricklayer, signed. Father, Joseph Stone, coal porter. Catherine Martin, spin, her mark. Father, Philip Waite Martin, waterman. Both of 10 White Cross St. Wit, Joseph Stone, Sarah Parsons
james stone

(1818–)

1850

31
Residence
1851 • 5 Chapter St, Westminster St John the Evangelist, Middlesex, England

Catherine Stone, 32, c1819, married, b Southwark


Is this the same person you are looking for?

So this would be the 1851 for them?


1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Chapter Street, St John the Evangelist, Westminster, Middlesex, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
James Stone Head Married Male 33 1818 Bricklayer London, Middlesex, England
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Catherine Stone Wife Married Female 32 1819 - Southwark, Surrey, England
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Precilla Stone Daughter - Female 8 1843 - Cripplegate, Middlesex, England
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Jemmina Stone Daughter - Female 6 1845 - Cripplegate, Middlesex, England
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Elizabeth Stone Daughter - Female 0 1851 - Middlesex, England
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Antony George Lodger Unmarried Male 18 1833 - Worcestershire, England

British Army Service Records 1760-1915 Transcription
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First name(s) JAMES
Last name STONE
Birth year 1817
Birth parish ST JAMES
Birth town LONDON
Birth county MIDDLESEX
Birth country ENGLAND
Service number 1391
Rank COLOR SERJEANT
Regiment South Staffordshire Regiment - 38th & 80th Foot
Document Type Discharge
Attestation year 1837
Attestation Day 3
Attestation Month 1
Attestation age years 20
Attestation age months -
Discharge Corps 38TH REGT OF FOOT


He had been a leather japanner.

this must be him in 1871

James Stone
England and Wales Census, 1871
Name James Stone
Event Type Census
Event Date 1871
Event Place St Maurice, Yorkshire (West Riding), England
Enumeration District 2
Gender Male
Age 54
Marital Status Married
Occupation Militia Sergeant
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Birth Year (Estimated) 1817
Birthplace London, Middlesex
Entry Number 3
Affiliate Image Identifier GBC/1871/4749/0137
HOUSEHOLD

ROLE

GENDER

AGE

BIRTHPLACE

James Stone Head M 54 London, Middlesex
Catherine Stone Wife F 38 Nova Scotia
James Richd Stone Son M 15 Walmer, Kent
Emma Jane Stone Daughter F 13 York, Yorkshire
Thomas Wm Stone Son M 11 York, Yorkshire
Joseph Urbane Stone Son M 9 York, Yorkshire
Louisa Julia Stone Daughter F 8 York, Yorkshire
George Arthur Stone Son M 6 York, Yorkshire
John Edward Stone Son M 4 York, Yorkshire
Albert Ernest Stone Son M 2 York, Yorkshire
Kate Alice Stone Daughter F 0 York, Yorkshire
William Schofield Lodger M 18 Bradford, Yorkshire
John Hussick Lodger M 29 Sheffield, Yorkshire
James Askam Lodger M 19 Sheffield, Yorkshire
Herbert Foster Lodger M 21 Sheffield, Yorkshire
Henry Dean Lodger M 27 Sheffield, Yorkshire
Walter Law Lodger M 20 Sheffield, Yorkshire

??? (If the Ancestry tree is correct re Catherine's YOB)

Philip Martin
in the 1841 England Census
Name: Philip Martin
Age: 57
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1784
Gender: Male
Civil Parish: St Mary Aldermary
Hundred: London Within the Walls
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Registration district: London
Sub-registration district: London South
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 722
Book: 3
Folio: 13
Page Number: 20
Household Members:
Name Age
Philip Martin 57 - LIGHTERMAN <<<<<<<<<<<<
Catherin Martin 20 - <<<<<<<<<<<<<< housekeeper
John Butler 75 - sail maker
Abram Woolfe 57 - mast maker
Elizbeth Nisbet 23 - dressmaker
Caroline Nisbet 20 - robe worker (?)


Address: Salters Court

James Stone
England and Wales Census, 1881
Name James Stone
Event Type Census
Event Date 1881
Event Place St Maurice In The Suburbs, Yorkshire,Yorkshire East Riding, England
Registration District York
Residence Note Lowther St
Gender Male
Age 64
Marital Status (Original) Married
Occupation Pensioner
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Birth Year (Estimated) 1817
Birthplace London St James, London, Middlesex, England
Page Number 45
Registration Number RG11
Piece/Folio 4722/73
Affiliate Record Type Household
HOUSEHOLD

ROLE

GENDER

AGE

BIRTHPLACE

James Stone Head M 64 London St James, London, Middlesex, England
Catherine Stone Wife F 47 Luninberg, North America
Emma Jane Stone Daughter F 24 York, England
Joseph Stone Son M 19 York, England
Louisa Stone Daughter F 18 Wetherby, Yorkshire, England
Arthur Stone Son M 15 York, England
Edward Stone Son M 14 York, England
Albert Stone Son M 12 York, England
Kate Stone Daughter F 10 York, England
Patrick Connolly Son In Law M 39 Waterford, Ireland
Annie E Connolly Wife Daughter F 29 Winchester, Hampshire, England
Harriet Connolly Daughter Grand Daughter F 10 Limerick, Ireland
James Connolly Son Grand Son M 8 Bangalore, India
George Connolly Son Grand Son M 5 Madras, India
Thomas Connolly Son Grand Son M 3 Rangoon, Burma
Annie Connolly Daughter Grand Daughter F 1 Rangoon, Burma

1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
28, Lowther Street, St Maurice in the Suburbs, York, Yorkshire, England

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First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
James Stone Head Married Male 64 1817 Pensioner Middlesex, England
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Catherine Stone Wife Married Female 47 1834 - United States
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Emma Jane Stone Daughter Single Female 24 1857 At Home York, Yorkshire, England
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Joseph Stone Son Single Male 19 1862 Tailor (App) York, Yorkshire, England
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Louisa Stone Daughter Single Female 18 1863 At Home Wetherby, Yorkshire, England
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Arthur Stone Son Single Male 15 1866 Apprentice Tailor York, Yorkshire, England
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Edward Stone Son Single Male 14 1867 - York, Yorkshire, England
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Albert Stone Son Single Male 12 1869 Scholar York, Yorkshire, England
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Kate Stone Daughter Single Female 10 1871 Scholar York, Yorkshire, England
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Patrick Connolly Son In Law Married Male 39 1842 Qr Mr Sergt (89) Regt Waterford, Waterford, Ireland
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Annie E Connolly Wife Daughter Married Female 29 1852 - Winchester, Hampshire, England
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Harriet Connolly Daughter Grand Daughter Single Female 10 1871 - Limerick, Limerick, Ireland
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James Connolly Son Grand Son Single Male 8 1873 - India
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George Connolly Son Grand Son Single Male 5 1876 - India
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Thomas Connolly Son Grand Son Single Male 3 1878 - India
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Annie Connolly Daughter Grand Daughter Single Female 1 1880 - India



1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
6, Princess Street, St Maurice, York, Yorkshire, England

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First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
James Stone Head Married Male 44 1817 Chelsea Pensioner And... London, Middlesex, England
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Catherine Stone Wife Married Female 28 1833 - United States
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Ann E Stone Daughter Unmarried Female 9 1852 - Winchester, Hampshire, England
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Frances C Stone Daughter - Female 7 1854 Scholar Middlesex, England
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James R Stone Son - Male 5 1856 - Deal, Kent, England
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Emma J Stone Daughter - Female 3 1858 - York, Yorkshire, England
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Thomas ... Stone Son - Male 1 1860 - York, Yorkshire, England

I think you've got the wrong wife for James. Here is daughter, Ann's birth. Born at Great Minster Street, Winchester. Father was a sergeant 38th Reg.

Ann Elizabeth Stone

in the England, Andrews Newspaper Index Cards, 1790-1976
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Name: Ann Elizabeth Stone
Birth Date: 15 Mar 1852
Birth Place: Winchester, Hampshire, England
Father's name: James Stone
Mother's name: Catherine Elizabeth Kelly

Emma Jane Stone
England Births and Christenings
Name Emma Jane Stone
Gender Female
Christening Date 25 Nov 1857
Christening Place Saint Thomas, York, York, England
Father's Name James Stone
Mother's Name Catharine Elizabeth

there is no mention of james marr until Catherine in 1850 he joined the army 1837-1858, occ leather napper his sevice record says embarked zante Greece 1841, corfu Greece 1841, gibralter 1843, jamaica1846,nova scotia1848 there is a report of the Burmese war, the 38th regiment of footwas involved in small skirmishs all over the world till he sailed for the crimea.
Ihave seen all these bricklayers and his dad joseph but about Catherine martin I am not so sure except there marr 1850.
I think they had a girl child ann b about 1851 Winchester,if you look on 1861/1871 census of james stone/Catherine stone in York Yorkshire you will see I think it has got you guys like it got me I think this is a no goerto much time has passed ti just I thought may be I missed something but I really believe she came from nova scotia but I had a mate who has famil there he went to there BMD in nova but found nothing,,
thank you for trying

Catherine's birth place?

Lunenburg, Nova Scotia
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Not to be confused with Lunenburg County, Nova Scotia or Lunenburg (municipal district), Nova Scotia.


Lunenburg is a Canadian port town in Lunenburg County, Nova Scotia. Situated on the province's South Shore, Lunenburg is located on the Fairhaven Peninsula at the western side of Mahone Bay. The town is approximately 90 kilometres southwest of the county boundary with the Halifax Regional Municipality.

Your James Stone married Catherine Elizabeth KELLY not MARTIN. See Ann's birth above.

For second daughter, Frances. Born at 10 Manor Gardens, Chelsea daughter of James, a soldier 38th Foot.

Frances Catherine Stone

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Name: Frances Catherine Stone
Birth Date: 31 Jul 1853
Birth Place: South Chelsea, London, England
Father's name: James Stone
Mother's name: Catherine Kelly



Name: James Richard Stone born at 7 Albert Place, Deal
Birth Date: 5 Jan 1856
Birth Place: Deal, Kent, England
Father's name: James Stone
Mother's name: Catherine Elizabeth Kelly

These cards also have their marriages and I think James R was found dead in the River Aire, Castleford on 15/10/ 1896.

(seems James was in Ireland 1841)

British Army, Worldwide Index 1841 Transcription (Find My Past)

First name(s) James
Last name Stone
Sex Male
Service number 1391
Rank Private
Unit or regiment 38th Foot
Sub unit Depot
Year 1841
Location Kinsale
The National Archive reference WO 12/5206


(Kinsale
Town in the Republic of Ireland
Kinsale is a historic port and fishing town in County Cork, Ireland, which also has significant military history.)

Chris :)


http://www.yorkshirebmd.org.uk/index.php

(has Yorks. Births)


Births Mar 1852 (>99%)
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Stone Ann Elizabeth Winchester 2c 79


(that 1850 Marriage, occ. Bricklayer?, thought he was a Soldier, as stated for occupation on James Richard Marriage 1878. Image on FMP)


Yorkshire Birth indexes for the years: 1863

STONE Louisa Julia Wetherby Leeds WETH/1A/361


Marriages Dec 1886 (>99%)
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Stone Louisa Julia York 9d 87
TORR Thomas York 9d 87


England, Andrews Newspaper Index Cards, 1790-1976 (Ancestry)

(also applies, Louisa above, Mother Catherine Eliz. Kelly. Birth and Marriage details given)


Marriages Dec 1881 (>99%)
------------------------------------------------
LIDDALL Harry York 9d 59
STONE Emma Jane York 9d 59

(another on there also, Mother Catherine Eliz. Kelly)


edits (other James below. Bricklayer, with first wife Judith)

1841 (Find My Past)
Cow Cross Street, St Sepulchre, London Union, West, Middlesex, England

(and, seeing ticks on FMP, against records, as 'viewed before', have you had a previous query relating?)

malyon
that's james a his family in York,
alvigul
you say he was marr twice 1839 to Judith 1821-1847 I have his army record,judith d 1847 he remarr 1850 ,he was in zante,corfu 1841,gibalter 1843,jamaica 1846,nova scotia then came home.
on them newspaper bit with the census it does name his wife as Kelly not martin I am now going supid I don't understand
so his wife is Kelly, [ I have worked on the bricklayer he is nothing to do with it] so where did his 2nd wife Catherine come from was it nova scotia, and hie mum/dad who are they, now I am lost[ to much info]
thankyou john