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(1937 Death reference posted, comes up as below, if any help!)

Chris :)

Lancashire Death indexes for the years: 1937

YATES Robert 66 Accrington Preston ACC/100/98

http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk/index.php


(in case anything else on below, 1897 Marriage, and Baptisms by EGB, on below)

http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/

If this is his seaman card the last ship listed in 1922:

First name(s) R
Last name Yates
Event year 1921
Birth year 1870
Birth place Liverpool
Birth county/country Lancashire
Birth date ? ? 1870
Discharge number 844130
Card type CR2
Archive The National Archives
Series BT348
Date range 1921-1941
Piece number 1
Record set Britain, merchant seamen, 1918-1941

Still alive 1918:

New York, Passenger Lists, 1820-1957

Name: Robert Yates (Chief Steward)
Arrival Date: 6 Aug 1918
Birth Date: abt 1870
Age: 48
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/ Nationality: English
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Missanabie

Possible?

Robert Yates

in the England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007
Record Image View

Name: Robert Yates
Birth Date: abt 1871
Date of Registration: Dec 1937
Age at Death: 66
Registration district: Haslingden
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 8e
Page: 123

Sorry - I've just seen that but it didn't come up on Findmypast when I checked.

Kath. x

Kathleen marriage already posted by Eringobragh1916 on page 1

Marriage: 12 Jun 1897 St Thomas, Seaforth, Lancashire, England
Robert Yates - 26 Steward Bachelor of 10 Alfred Place, Liverpool
Mabel Davidson - 25 Widow of 1 Elm Rd, Seaforth
Groom's Father: Thomas Yates, Deceased
Bride's Father: Henry Brown, Shore Steward
Witness: Lucy Brown; Thomas Yates; H. Brown
Married by Banns by: R. F. G. Smithwick
Register: Marriages 1870 - 1899, Page 217, Entry 433
Source: LDS Film 1546066
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Marriages Jun 1897
Davidson Mabel W.Derby 8b 795
Yates Robert W. Derby 8b 795

Did Robert have any other names? I can't find a marriage for Robert and Mabel so thought that Robert could have been a middle name and his death could be under another name.

Kath. x

She was a widow in 1939- living with her daughter:

Yates Household (2 People) 30 Quarry Road , West Lancashire R.D., Lancashire, England

Dorothy Yates 18 May 1910 Female Ambulance Drive Single
Mabel Yates 18 Oct 1871 Female Domestic Duties Widowed

Presume this is her death

The cert should say wife or widow of


First name(s) MABEL
Last name YATES
Gender Female
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year 1872
Age 70
Death quarter 2
Death year 1942
District CROSBY
County Lancashire
Volume 8B
Page 635
Country England
Record set England & Wales deaths 1837-2007
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Deaths & burials
Collections from Great Britain
(c) brightsolid online publishing ltd

I WOULD LIKE TO THANK EVERYONE WHO HAS BEEN LOOKING IN TO THE MABEL YATES HISTORY. I HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION ON HER WHICH IF ANYONE IS INTERESTED WHEN SHE WAS MABEL BROWN CAN BE FOUND IN THE BOOK CALLED "THORESBY TO TORRINGTON" THE STORY OF HARRY BROWN BY VALERIE STERN. UNFORTUNATELY I STILL CANNOT TRACE THE DEATH OF HER HUSBAND ROBERT YATES SENIOR. I AM WONDERING IF HE DIED AT SEA, MABEL DIED IN CROSBY IN 1942. THEY WERE MY GRAND PARENTS I ONLY MET MABEL. I WAS BORN IN 1934 SO HE MUST HAVE DIED BEFORE THEN.
SORRY HAVE NOT BEEN IN TOUCH SOONER BUT I AM NOW 82 AND DONT USE COMPUTER AS MUCH IN FACT THIS WILL BE MY LAST YEAR IN GENES REUNITED.

Beryl ...Did Robert pre decease Mabel...?

All information I have received. From everyone is amazing. I do have most of it but I am looking for MAbels husband Robert Yates death details. Have tried everywhere I can think of, I have MAbels death she died in 1942 in THORNTON Liverpool. Taken to Thornton Crematorium. Mabel and Robert are my GrAnparents from there son Robert Junior.

Ooops, sorry Cynthia.........I should have posted that i sent Beryl a PM earlier.

Hopefully, she will get back to us.

Prickles. ;o))

Welcome to the Community boards Beryl.



(I'll let Beryl know how to find her replies) :-)

I suppose we will just have to wait and see exactly what information Beryl is looking for.


Just posting the 1911 census.

(Brown on the image)

Henry Bronn in the 1911 England Census
Name: Henry Bronn
Age in 1911: 67
Estimated birth year: abt 1844
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Perlethorpe, Nottinghamshire, England
Civil Parish: Orrell
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address: 18 Alexandra Drive Aintree
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Anny Pensioner
Registration district: West Derby
Henry Bronn 67
Lucy Bronn 54 Dublin, Ireland
Kaura Bronn 34 Thomcliff, Kent (Laura on the image)... Stewardess
Lucy Bronn 33 Pembridge, Wales... Typist
Ethel Williams 27 Charlcote, Warwickshire (Married Daughter)
Joya Bronn 25 Farnboro, Hants (Joyce on the image)...Post Office Offierds
Sybil Bronn 21 Stoke, Devon...Student
May Bronn 15 Seaforth, Lancashire
Sarah Adair 75 (Widowed Grandmother) Brlfast, Ireland (Possibly Sarah Adams on the image) School Mistress Army Pensioner


(Married 41 years......13 children born, 11 living, 2 had died)

Assuming Sarah Adams is "Grandmother" to the children.......Lucy's maiden name is possibly Adams ?

It's been crossed out but....Sarah....7 children born, 5 living, 2 had died.

??

Sarah D Adams in the 1901 England Census
Name: Sarah D Adams
Age: 64
Estimated birth year: abt 1837
Relation to Head: Visitor
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Ireland
Civil Parish: Farnborough
Ecclesiastical parish: Farnborough
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England

Registration district:Hartley Wintney
Sub-registration district: Farnborough

Household Members:

Robert W Morris 37
Kate Morris 35
Florence K Morris 19
Helen H Morris 11
Elsie L Morris 9
James A Morris 6
Edith M Morris 1
Sarah D Adams 64 (Widow) Retired Army Schoolmistress

Baptism: 12 Jun 1895 St Thomas, Seaforth, Lancashire, England
May Elsa Brown - [Child] of Henry Brown & Lucy
Born: 2 May
Abode: 1 Elm Road
Occupation: Superintendant Steward
Baptised by: G. V. Owen

Thought It may have shown Lucy's maiden name

Mabel's first marriage?

Marriages Dec 1890 (>99%)
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Brown Mabel York 9d 19
Davidson Arthur George York 9d 19


And the family in 1891? A son Frederick Mahoney???

Mabel Davidson

in the 1891 England Census
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Name: Mabel Davidson
Age: 19
Estimated birth year: abt 1872
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Arthur G Davidson
Gender: Female
Where born: India
Civil Parish: Fulford
Ecclesiastical parish: Fulford
Town: Heworth
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Registration district: York
ED, institution, or vessel: York Infantry Barracks
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3895
Folio: 132
Page Number: 37
Household Members:
Name Age
Arthur G Davidson 31
Mabel Davidson 19
Frederick Mahoney 3
Source Citation

Class: RG12; Piece: 3895; Folio: 132; Page: 37; GSU roll: 6099005
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Name Henry Brown
Event Type Census
Event Date 31 Mar 1901
Event Place Orell And Ford, Lancashire, England
County Lancashire
Civil Parish Orell And Ford
Ecclesiastical Parish St Philips Litherland
Sub-District Litherland
Registration District West Derby
Residence Note Moss Lane
Gender Male
Age 58
Occupation ARMY PENSIONER
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Birth Year (Estimated) 1843
Birthplace Perlethorpe, Nottinghamshire
Schedule Type 114
Page Number 21



Household

Role

Gender

Age

Birthplace

Henry Brown Head M 58 Perlethorpe, Nottinghamshire
Lucy Brown Wife F 47 Ireland
Hannah Brown Daughter F 25 India Mooltan
Lucy Brown Daughter F 24 Pembroke Dock, Pembrokeshire
Dorothy Brown Daughter F 19 Weedon, Northamptonshire
Ethel Brown Daughter F 17 Charlecote, Warwickshire
Joyce Brown Daughter F 15 Aldershot, Hampshire
Jack Brown Son M 13 Aldershot, Hampshire
Sybel Brown Daughter F 11 Stoke, Devonshire
Wm Brown Son M 9 Bootle, Lancashire
May E Brown Daughter F 5 Seaforth, Lancashire

Alice ??


Alice Emma Mabel Brown

India Births and Baptisms

Name Alice Emma Mabel Brown
Gender Female
Christening Date 16 Nov 1871
Christening Place Mooltan, Bengal, India
Birth Date 18 Oct 1871
Birthplace Mooltan, Bengal, India
Father's Name Harry Brown
Mother's Name Lucy

Oh thank you Margaret.........that's her then!

The 1911 census states she was born in Mootlan, India.