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ROBERT WAS BORN IN1871 ENDED UP BEING CHIEF STEWARD ON THE SAXONIA. MARRIED TO MABEL DAVIDSON 4 CHILDREN THEY ALL LIVED IN LIVERPOOL

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Name: Robert James Yates
Birth: Oct 1871 - Liverpool, Lancashire

Is this your mans birth?


Marriages Jun 1897

Davidson Mabel W. Derby 8b 795
YATES Robert W. Derby 8b 795

Family in 1911.

Entry for Roberts Yates crossed out (at sea?)


Name:Mabel Yates
Age in 1911:39
Estimated birth year:abt 1872
Relation to Head:Head
Gender:Female
Birth Place:Mooltan, India
Civil Parish:Orrell
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County/Island:Lancashire
Country:England
Street address:38 Alexandra Drive Aintree
Marital Status:Married
Registration district:West Derby
Registration District Number:455
Sub-registration district:Litherland
ED, institution, or vessel:4
Piece:22334
Household Members:
Name
Age


Mabel Yates 39
Erie Yates 12
Mabel Yates 10
Robert Yates 6
Dorothy Yates 11/12
Margaret Erans 25
Annie Cooper 29

Andy

Family 1901

Robert Jates 30
Mable Jates 29
Henry E D Jates 2
Mable Jates 8/12
Minnie Blundell 15


Andy

Hi Beryl

Henry Eric Arnald Yates in the Liverpool, England, Baptisms, 1813-1906
Name: Henry Eric Arnald Yates .....**.Arnald is Donald on the image**
Birth Date: 1 Oct
Baptism Date: 6 Nov 1898
Parish: Seaforth, St Thomas
Father's name: Robert Yates (Steward) Res: 56 Eaton Avenue
Mother's name: Alice Emma Mabe Yates......**Mabe is Mabel on the image**

Robert appears dozens of times on the Liverpool crews lists.

Andy

Despite what it says, this is Mabel


Name:Michel Yates
Birth Date:20 Jul
Baptism Date:12 Sep 1900
Parish:Seaforth, St Thomas
Father's name:Robert Yates
Mother's name:Mabel Yates
Reference Number:283 THS/2/6


Andy

Henry E D Yates in the England & Wales, Marriage Index, 1916-2005
Name: Henry E D Yates
Spouse Name: Eileen Coggins
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1942
Registration district: Crosby
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume Number: 8b
Page Number: 1128

(A son born to this marriage in 1947)


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Deaths Jun 1967 (>99%)
YATES HENRY E D 68 PEMBROKE 8C 368

As Alice preferred the name Mabel.........I wonder if this is how she and Robert met?

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Mabel Davidson in the Liverpool, England, Crew Lists 1861-1919
Name: Mabel Davidson .....Stewardess
Age: 19
Birth Year: 1872
Birth Place: India
Event Date: 1891
Port of Registry: Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Ship Name: Servia


Mabel Davidson in the Liverpool, England, Crew Lists 1861-1919
Name: Mabel Davidson
Age: 20
Birth Year: 1872
Birth Place: India
Event Date: 1892
Port of Registry: Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Ship Name: Servia

Edit: Alice aka Mable's sister Lucy was also on a Crew List

Lucy Brown in the Liverpool, England, Crew Lists 1861-1919
Name: Lucy Brown
Age: 19 .........1st Voyage.......House Address.......1 Elm Street.
Birth Year: abt 1877
Birth Place: Pembroke
Event Date: 1896
Port of Registry: Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Ship Name: Gallia

Marriage: 12 Jun 1897 St Thomas, Seaforth, Lancashire, England
Robert Yates - 26 Steward Bachelor of 10 Alfred Place, Liverpool
Mabel Davidson - 25 Widow of 1 Elm Rd, Seaforth
Groom's Father: Thomas Yates, Deceased
Bride's Father: Henry Brown, Shore Steward
Witness: Lucy Brown; Thomas Yates; H. Brown
Married by Banns by: R. F. G. Smithwick
Register: Marriages 1870 - 1899, Page 217, Entry 433
Source: LDS Film 1546066

I don't have access.........but there is a baptism for an Alice Emma Mabel Brown on Ancestry.

India, Select Births and Baptisms, 1786-1947
Name: Alice Emma Mabel Brown

Well that must be her...(Full name given below)

Baptism: 6 Nov 1898 St Thomas, Seaforth, Lancashire, England
Henry Eric Donald Yates - [Child] of Robert Yates & Alice Emma Mabel
Born: 1 Oct
Abode: 56 Eaton Avenue, L'land
Occupation: Steward
Baptised by: R. F. G. Smithwick
Register: Baptisms 1896 - 1901, Page 47, Entry 374

Given that Beryls not said what she's after maybe she's already got all the info supplied...

Alice Emma Mabel Brown

in the India, Select Births and Baptisms, 1786-1947
Record Image Index-only record

Name: Alice Emma Mabel Brown
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 18 Oct 1871
Birth Place: Mooltan, Bengal, India
Baptism Date: 16 Nov 1871
Baptism Age: 0
Baptism Place: Mooltan, Bengal, India
Father: Harry Brown
Mother: Lucy
Reference ID: v 138 p 65
FHL Film Number: 499044

Oh thank you Margaret.........that's her then!

The 1911 census states she was born in Mootlan, India.

Alice ??


Alice Emma Mabel Brown

India Births and Baptisms

Name Alice Emma Mabel Brown
Gender Female
Christening Date 16 Nov 1871
Christening Place Mooltan, Bengal, India
Birth Date 18 Oct 1871
Birthplace Mooltan, Bengal, India
Father's Name Harry Brown
Mother's Name Lucy

Name Henry Brown
Event Type Census
Event Date 31 Mar 1901
Event Place Orell And Ford, Lancashire, England
County Lancashire
Civil Parish Orell And Ford
Ecclesiastical Parish St Philips Litherland
Sub-District Litherland
Registration District West Derby
Residence Note Moss Lane
Gender Male
Age 58
Occupation ARMY PENSIONER
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Birth Year (Estimated) 1843
Birthplace Perlethorpe, Nottinghamshire
Schedule Type 114
Page Number 21



Household

Role

Gender

Age

Birthplace

Henry Brown Head M 58 Perlethorpe, Nottinghamshire
Lucy Brown Wife F 47 Ireland
Hannah Brown Daughter F 25 India Mooltan
Lucy Brown Daughter F 24 Pembroke Dock, Pembrokeshire
Dorothy Brown Daughter F 19 Weedon, Northamptonshire
Ethel Brown Daughter F 17 Charlecote, Warwickshire
Joyce Brown Daughter F 15 Aldershot, Hampshire
Jack Brown Son M 13 Aldershot, Hampshire
Sybel Brown Daughter F 11 Stoke, Devonshire
Wm Brown Son M 9 Bootle, Lancashire
May E Brown Daughter F 5 Seaforth, Lancashire

Mabel's first marriage?

Marriages Dec 1890 (>99%)
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Brown Mabel York 9d 19
Davidson Arthur George York 9d 19


And the family in 1891? A son Frederick Mahoney???

Mabel Davidson

in the 1891 England Census
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Name: Mabel Davidson
Age: 19
Estimated birth year: abt 1872
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Arthur G Davidson
Gender: Female
Where born: India
Civil Parish: Fulford
Ecclesiastical parish: Fulford
Town: Heworth
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Registration district: York
ED, institution, or vessel: York Infantry Barracks
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3895
Folio: 132
Page Number: 37
Household Members:
Name Age
Arthur G Davidson 31
Mabel Davidson 19
Frederick Mahoney 3
Source Citation

Class: RG12; Piece: 3895; Folio: 132; Page: 37; GSU roll: 6099005
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Baptism: 12 Jun 1895 St Thomas, Seaforth, Lancashire, England
May Elsa Brown - [Child] of Henry Brown & Lucy
Born: 2 May
Abode: 1 Elm Road
Occupation: Superintendant Steward
Baptised by: G. V. Owen

Thought It may have shown Lucy's maiden name

I suppose we will just have to wait and see exactly what information Beryl is looking for.


Just posting the 1911 census.

(Brown on the image)

Henry Bronn in the 1911 England Census
Name: Henry Bronn
Age in 1911: 67
Estimated birth year: abt 1844
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Perlethorpe, Nottinghamshire, England
Civil Parish: Orrell
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address: 18 Alexandra Drive Aintree
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Anny Pensioner
Registration district: West Derby
Henry Bronn 67
Lucy Bronn 54 Dublin, Ireland
Kaura Bronn 34 Thomcliff, Kent (Laura on the image)... Stewardess
Lucy Bronn 33 Pembridge, Wales... Typist
Ethel Williams 27 Charlcote, Warwickshire (Married Daughter)
Joya Bronn 25 Farnboro, Hants (Joyce on the image)...Post Office Offierds
Sybil Bronn 21 Stoke, Devon...Student
May Bronn 15 Seaforth, Lancashire
Sarah Adair 75 (Widowed Grandmother) Brlfast, Ireland (Possibly Sarah Adams on the image) School Mistress Army Pensioner


(Married 41 years......13 children born, 11 living, 2 had died)

Assuming Sarah Adams is "Grandmother" to the children.......Lucy's maiden name is possibly Adams ?

It's been crossed out but....Sarah....7 children born, 5 living, 2 had died.

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Sarah D Adams in the 1901 England Census
Name: Sarah D Adams
Age: 64
Estimated birth year: abt 1837
Relation to Head: Visitor
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Ireland
Civil Parish: Farnborough
Ecclesiastical parish: Farnborough
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England

Registration district:Hartley Wintney
Sub-registration district: Farnborough

Household Members:

Robert W Morris 37
Kate Morris 35
Florence K Morris 19
Helen H Morris 11
Elsie L Morris 9
James A Morris 6
Edith M Morris 1
Sarah D Adams 64 (Widow) Retired Army Schoolmistress