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Hello.
Would anyone be so kind to help with my maternal family tree. I'm hoping someone who is able to assist me finding my heritage. I've just recently had a DNA and has gone back as far as Afro Caribbean.
I don't have any info past 1889 (my maternal Grandmother) I've tried without success to find out where I originate from. Help would be extremely appreciated
Thank u for reading. Kind regards Lisa ??

Lisa

we need more information in order to be able to help you

You say that you have got back to your maternal Grandmother in 1889

Is that when she was born?

Where? What is her name? Who did she marry?


Do be aware that the DNA tests don't really help you to find your family, and we may not be able to find any Afro-Caribbean relatives.

Hello
Thank you for your reply.

I'm trying to find relatives of my gr8 grandma mabel Nicholls born 1887c. She had a daughter (father unknown on the birth certificate)called Hilda Nicholls born Aug 1909 who married Ernest Castle (from Suttong in Ashfield) in 1929. Hilda died aged 42 in 1952. There is strong connections with John & Ellen Parkin Nee Gee who i believe adopted Hilda.
I believe there's a link to Norwich and Mabel and Hilda lodged with a family called Millington.

Quite a family stumbling block as no one has any other info apart from whats above. Thanx in advance Lisa.

Hello Lisa, do you know if Mabel subsequently married?

Where and when were they lodging with the Millingtons?

Hi Lisa

To avoid duplicate research........please can you remove the two threads you have posted on the "Find Living Relatives" board for the same request.

Where was Hilda born?

Where was Mabel born?

:-)

well she married as Nicholls so she may have only been fostered out

Marriages Jun 1929
CASTLE Ernest Nicholls Nottingham 7b 677
Nicholls Hilda Castle Nottingham 7b 677

still in the same area

Deaths Jun 1952
CASTLE Hilda 42 Nottingham 3c 334

Births Dec 1909
NICHOLLS Hilda Nottingham 7b 342

Is this Mabel in 1911 - age a year or two out from what you thought, but if it's her it would help us to start finding out more about her. Bagthorpe at the time was the site of the Nottingham Workhouse/Infirmary where she is working as a Ward Domestic.

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription

First name(s) Mabel
Last name Nicholls
Relationship Servant
Marital status Single
Sex Female
Occupation Wardmaid Domestic
Age 21
Birth year 1890
Birth place Notts Hucknall Torkard
Address Bagthorpe Nottingham
Parish Nottingham
County Nottinghamshire
Country England
Archive reference RG14
Registration district Nottingham
Registration district number 430
Enumeration district 41
District number -
Sub district Bulwell
Sub district number 5
Census reference RG14PN20672 RD430 SD5 ED41 SN9999
Piece number 20672
Folio -
Page -
Other household member first name(s) -

Name: Hilda Nichols
Age in 1911: 1
Estimated birth year: abt 1910
Relation to Head: Adopted Daughter
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Nottingham, England
Civil Parish: Nottingham
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County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Country: England
Street address: 3 Beaconsfield Terrace Salisbury St Radford
Registration district: Nottingham
Registration District Number: 430
Sub-registration district: Nottingham South West
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Piece: 20497
Household Members:
Name Age
John Arthur Parkin 23
Ellen Parkin 22
Hilda Nichols 1

married 4 years no children

so its looks like they took her in and brought her up as official adoption didnt start till c1927

or this one for Mabel

Name: Mabel Nicholls
Age in 1911: 25
Estimated birth year: abt 1886
Relation to Head: Daughter
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Great, Bolton
Civil Parish: Heanor
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County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Country: England
Street address: Lacey Fields Farm Langley Heanor Debyshire
Marital Status: Single
Occupation: House Work & Dairy Work
Registration district: Basford
Registration District Number: 429
Sub-registration district: Ilkeston
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Piece: 20401
Household Members:
Name Age
John Mark Nicholls 54
Elizabeth Nicholls 57
Mabel Nicholls 25
Harriet Hawtin 44
Gwennetto Nicholls 4
James Eames 31
Charles Onyon 26


But one would have thought she would have her baby with her

if its the first one posted that would make sense that she had to find a home for her baby so she could work

This could be the Millington and Norwich connection, if so, ?? not the Mabel Nicholls in the 1911 census I posted above, as that says born NottS. It may mean that Mabel herself was illegitimate?

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Abbotsford Street, St Mary, Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
William Millington Head Married Male 32 1859 Cab Driver Keyworth, Nottinghamshire, England
Lydia Millington Wife Married Female 28 1863 Dressmaker Norfolk, England
Florence Millington Daughter - Female 9 1882 Scholar Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England
Francies Nicholas Boarder Single Female 21 1870 Dressmaker Norfolk, England
Mabel Nicholas Daughter - Female 0 1891 - Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England

????
MABEL
Last name NICHOLS
Birth year 1891
Birth quarter 2
Registration month -
Mother's last name -
District NOTTINGHAM
County Nottinghamshire
Country England
Volume 7B
Page 341
Record set England & Wales births 1837-2006
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Births & baptisms
Collections from Great Britain
© brightsolid online publishing ltd

1901
William Millington Head Married Male 42 1859 Cab Driver Nottinghamshire, England Transcription
Lydia Millington Wife Married Female 38 1863 Dressmaker Norfolk, England Transcription
Florence Millington Daughter Single Female 19 1882 Lace Finisher Nottinghamshire, England Transcription
Mabel Nichols Adopted - Female 10 1891 - Nottinghamshire, England Transcription
Census details
First name(s) Mabel
Last name Nichols
Relationship Adopted
Marital status -
Gender Female
Age 10
Birth year 1891
Occupation -
Birth town -
Birth county Nottinghamshire
Birth county as transcribed NOTTINGHAM
Birth place England
Birth place other as transcribed -
Other household member first name(s) WILLIAM, LYDIA, FLORENCE, MABEL
Other household member last name MILLINGTON, NICHOLS
Street Beverley Street
Town -
Parish Nottingham
City -
Country England
County Nottinghamshire
Municipal ward Mapperley
Registration district Nottingham
Archive reference RG13
Piece number 3175
Folio 179
Page 14
Record set 1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Category Census, land & surveys
Subcategory Census
Collections from Great Britain

Ancestry version of the 1891 that Greyghost posted.......


William Millington in the 1891 England Census
Name: William Millington
Age: 32
Estimated birth year: abt 1859
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Lydia Millington
Gender: Male
Where born: Keyworth, Nottinghamshire, England
Civil Parish: St Mary
Ecclesiastical parish: St Ann
Town: Nottingham
County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Country: England


Household Members:

William Millington 32
Lydia Millington 28
Florence Millington 9
Francis Nicholls 21 (Boarder) Single.....Dressmaker.....Weasenham, Norfolk,
Mabel Millington 0 (Mable Nicholls on the image.......daughter)

So Mabel's mother is Frances.



Marriages Dec 1881 (>99%)
DICKENSON Lydia Nottingham 7b 394
MILLINGTON William Nottingham 7b 394

Lydia and Frances are half sisters.


(Further on........you will see that Mabel is with Florence Millington in the 1911 census. Florence married Frederick William Tipping in 1904)

??The connection between Millington and Nicholas (or varied spelling)

Lydia Millington nee Dickerson (or varied spelling) step sister of Frances, mother of Mabel
EDIT Previously Dickerson nee Bear - see later posts

England & Wales marriages 1837-2008 Transcription

First name(s) WILLIAM
Last name MILLINGTON
Marriage quarter 4
Marriage year 1881
Registration month -
MarriageFinder™ WILLIAM MILLINGTON married
LYDIA DICKENSON
District NOTTINGHAM
District number -
County Nottinghamshire
Country England
Volume 7B
Page 394

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1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Mill Cottages, Weasenham All Saints, Mitford, Norfolk, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
George Nicholas Head - Male 33 1838 - Norfolk, England
Sarah Nicholas Wife - Female 32 1839 - Norfolk, England
Jane E Dickerson Daughter-In-Law - Female 11 1860 - Norfolk, England
Lydia Dickerson Daughter-In-Law - Female 8 1863 - Norfolk, England
Frances Nicholas Daughter - Female 1 1870 - Norfolk, England

Frances Nicholls in the England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
Name: Frances Nicholls
Gender: Female
Baptism Date: 19 Sep 1869
Baptism Place: Weasenham-All Saints, Norfolk, England
Father: George Nicholls
Mother: Sarah
FHL Film Number: 1596068
Reference ID: 16 p54



Births Sep 1869 (>99%)
NICHOLS Frances Mitford 4b 259

1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Low Street, Weasenham St Peter, Mitford, Norfolk, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
James Dickerson Head Married Male 26 1835 Agricultural Labourer Weasenham St Peter, Norfolk, England
Sarah Dickerson Wife Married Female 23 1838 Dry Soap Maker Weasenham St Peter, Norfolk,
Jane Elizabeth Dickerson Daughter - Female 1 1860 - Weasenham St Peter, Norfolk, England
Richard Bear Brother Unmarried Male 25 1836 Shoe Maker Weasenham St Peter, Norfolk,

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England Marriages 1538-1973 Transcription

First name(s) James
Last name Dickerson
Name note -
Marriage year 1858
Marriage date 12 Nov 1858
Marriage place Weasenham-St Peter
Spouse's first name(s) Sarah
Spouse's last name Bear
Residence Weasenham-St. Peter, Norfolk, England
County Norfolk
Country England

England & Wales deaths 1837-2007 Transcription
Print transcription View image
First name(s) JAMES
Last name DICKERSON
Gender Male
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year -
Age -
Death quarter 4
Death year 1863
District MITFORD
County Norfolk
Volume 4B
Page 186
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National Burial Index for England & Wales Transcription

First name(s) JAMES
Last name DICKERSON
Birth year 1834
Death year 1863
Age 29
Burial year 1863
Burial day 23
Burial month 11
Place WEASENHAM SAINT PETER
Church description ST PETER
Church denomination ANGLICAN
County Norfolk

England & Wales marriages 1837-2008 Transcription
Print transcription View image
First name(s) SARAH
Last name DICKERSON
Marriage quarter 1
Marriage year 1866
Registration month -
MarriageFinder™ SARAH DICKERSON married one of these people
THOMAS HARROWING, GEORGE NICHOLAS, GEORGE NICHLAS
District MITFORD
District number -
County Norfolk
Country England
Volume 4B
Page 489
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England Marriages 1538-1973 Transcription

First name(s) Sarah
Last name Dickerson
Name note -
Marriage year 1866
Marriage date 19 Jan 1866
Marriage place Weasenham-St Peter
Father's first name(s) James
Father's last name Bear
Spouse's first name(s) George
Spouse's last name Nicholas
Spouse's father's first name(s) William
Spouse's father's last name Nicholas
Residence Weasenham-St. Peter, Norfolk, England
County Norfolk

Transcribed as Nicholas on the 1871 census.........

Frances Nicholas in the 1871 England Census
Name: Frances Nicholas
Age: 12 Months
Estimated birth year: abt 1870
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: George Nicholas
Mother's name: Sarah Nicholas
Gender: Female
Where born: Weasenham St Peter, Norfolk, England
Civil Parish: Weasenham All Saints
County/Island: Norfolk
Country: England
Registration district: Mitford

Household Members:

George Nicholas 33 (Ag Lab) Horningtoft, Norfolk,
Sarah Nicholas 32
Jane E Dickerson 11 (Daughter in Law)
Lydia Dickerson 8 (Daughter in Law)
Frances Nicholas 12 Months

(Daughter in Law was often used instead of Step Child back in those days)


Marriages Mar 1866 (>99%)
NICHLAS George Mitford 4b 489
NICHOLAS George Mitford 4b 489
DICKERSON Sarah Mitford 4b 489

England Marriages 1538-1973 Transcription

First name(s) James
Last name Dickerson
Name note -
Marriage year 1858
Marriage date 12 Nov 1858
Marriage place Weasenham-St Peter
Spouse's first name(s) Sarah
Spouse's last name Bear
Residence Weasenham-St. Peter, Norfolk, England
County Norfolk
Country England

1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Steward Field House, Rougham Norfolk, Mitford, Norfolk, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
James Bear Head Married Male 42 1809 Ag Lab Weasenham All Saints, Norfolk, England
Lyda Bear Wife Married Female 39 1812 - Weasenham All Saints, Norfolk, England Transcription
John Davy Son Unmarried Male 18 1833 Blacksmith Weasenham All Saints, Norfolk, England
Richard Bear Son Unmarried Male 15 1836 Ag Lab Weasenham All Saints, Norfolk, England
Sarah Bear Daughter Unmarried Female 12 1839 Scholar Weasenham All Saints, Norfolk, England
Edmund Bear Son - Male 8 1843 Scholar Weasenham All Saints, Norfolk, England
Mary Bear Daughter - Female 6 1845 Scholar Weasenham All Saints, Norfolk, England
Robert Bear Son - Male 2 1849 - Weasenham All Saints, Norfolk, England
Edmund Goll Father Widower Male 78 1773 Pauper Syderstone, Norfolk, England
William Bear Nephew Unmarried Male 21 1830 Waggoner Weasenham All Saints, Norfolk, England
John Bear Nephew Unmarried Male 20 1831 Waggoner Weasenham All Saints, Norfolk, England