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ooohhh thank you , it does sound interesting doesnt it , and we will never know if he met Florence Nightingale .....but i can only imagine.

Am very grateful for all your help, and im glad i have an interesting tree for you to get your teeth into shall we say lol.

many thanks
Maxine :-D

I've been googling 28th regiment of foot and their history is fascinating. they served in Waterloo (although long before James' time of service), Australia, India, Crimea in fact lots of the important battles that we have all heard of.
Crimea was 1853-1856 so James would certainly have been involved there, makes you wonder if he ever bumped into Florence Nighingale?

Check this out for a little more info:-
http://web.archive.org/web/20080501211135/http://members.tripod.com/~Glosters/crimean.html

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28th Regiment
1835 - New South Wales, Australia
1842 - India
1848 - England
1854 - Malta and Turkey
1854 - Crimea, Russia
1855 - Malta
1858 - India
1865 - England
1866 - Ireland

From what I could see the Regiment did a big recruitment campagne in Ireland after the Crimean War (probably because of all their losses) which is probably why James was in Ireland at that time and also after coming home from India.

I wish I had someone in my tree with such an interesting past.

hi Maxine
you could try here its a subscription site

http://www.rootsireland.ie/

You're very welcome Maxine, it was a really interesting search so glad to be of help
Catherine :-)

Catherine

OMG you are a star, am so glad i posted this , I have enjoyed reading all this info and there I was thinking I wouldn't even get a hit, I can finally update my tree and start looking in the right direction.

Many thanks
Maxine <3 <3 <3

Here you are found his army records which ties in very nicely with the Fermoy link to Ireland:-

First name(s) JAMES
Last name SCHOFIELD
Birth year 1820
Birth parish HOSSARD
Birth town MANCHESTER
Birth county LANCASHIRE
Birth country ENGLAND
Service number 1716
Rank PRIVATE
Regiment Gloucestershire Regiment - 28th & 61st Foot
Document Type Discharge
Attestation year 1842
Attestation Day 7
Attestation Month 4
Attestation age years 22
Attestation age months 9
Discharge Corps 28TH REG OF FOOT
Discharge service number 1716
Series WO97 chelsea pensioners british army service records 1760-1913
Box 1487
Box Record Number 189
Record set British Army Service Records 1760-1915
Category Military, armed forces & conflict
Subcategory Regimental & service records
Collections from Great Britain

States:-
Joined on 7 April 1842 aged 21yrs 11days
Discharge accorded on 17 April 1863 at Fermoy, Ireland
Served 21yrs and 11days
Served for 4yrs and 109days in the East Indies
Joined the 28th Regiment - 7th Apr.1842 to 30 Jun 1857 (15yrs and 85days)
Further Service from 1st July 1857 to 17 Apr.1863
Further Service from 18 Apr.1863 to 12 May 1863 in Dublin

Height:- 5'10"
Complexion:- Fresh
Eyes:- Blue
Hair:- Light Brown
Trade:- Labourer
Marks and Scars:- Rupture of the left groin and almost totally blind in right eye.


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I would suggest that James came out of the army as his wife was going to have their second child:-

Name: Thomas Joseph Schofield
Registration Year: 1863
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration district: York
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County: Yorkshire East Riding
Volume: 9d
Page: 19

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Name: Thomas Joseph Schofield
Gender: Male
Birth Date: abt 1863
Age: 21
Father's name: James Schofield
Spouse's Name: Emily Nicholson
Spouse's Age: 20
Spouse's Father's Name: John Nicholson
Marriage Date: 25 Dec 1884
Marriage Place: York, Yorkshire, England

Thank you JoonieCloonie, I must admit I did enjoy doing this one.
Thanks again, Catherine :-D

what a fascinating bit of history to find an ancestor involved in - very good job Catherine, if I were Maxine I would be thrilled at your finds :-)

Maybe this one????

Name James Scholfield
Gender Male
Christening Date 21 Mar 1819
Christening Place Heywood, Lancashire, England
Father's Name Jonathan Scholfield
Mother's Name Susy Scholfield


In which case the Samuel in the trial record could very well be a sibling:-

Name Samuel Scholfield
Gender Male
Christening Date 13 Jun 1824
Christening Place Heywood, Lancaster, England
Father's Name Jonathan Scholfield
Mother's Name Susan Scholfield

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and if correct these would likely be other siblings:-

Name Archer Scholfield
Gender Male
Christening Date 09 Jan 1814
Christening Place Heywood, Lancaster, England
Father's Name Jonathan Scholfield
Mother's Name Susan Scholfield

Name Anna Scholfield
Gender Female
Christening Date 21 Apr 1816
Christening Place Heywood, Lancashire, England
Father's Name Jonathan Scholfield
Mother's Name Susy Scholfield

Name Samuel Scholfield
Gender Male
Christening Date 13 Jun 1824
Christening Place Heywood, Lancashire, England
Father's Name Jonathan Scholfield
Mother's Name Susan Scholfield

Name Edmund Scholfield
Gender Male
xxxxx Christening Date 20 Jan 1828
Christening Place Heywood, Lancaster, England
Father's Name Jonathan Scholfield
Mother's Name Susan Scholfield

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Looks like Susan died in child birth:-

Name: Susan Scholfield
Gender: Female
Age: 42
Birth Date: 1786
xxxxx Burial Date: 20 Jan 1828
Burial Place: Heywood, Lancaster, England
FHL Film Number: 2113192
Reference ID: p 234

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The couples marriage?

Name: Jonathan Scholfield
Gender: Male
Event Type: Marriage
Event Date: 8 Sep 1806
Parish: Bury, Lancashire, England
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Spouse: Susan Whittaker
Register Type: Bishop's Transcript

This looks to be James' death:-

Name: James Schofield
Estimated birth year: abt 1819
Registration Year: 1887
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Age at Death: 68
Registration district: York
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County: Yorkshire East Riding
Volume: 9d
Page: 36

............which gives his date of birth more as 1819.


Interesting?

Name: James Schofield
Age: 21
Estimated birth year: abt 1821
Date of Trial: 11 Apr 1842
Trial Year: 1842
Location of Trial: Lancashire, England
Sentence: Imprisonment 1Mth
Crime: Fraud
Date of Execution or Release:
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Name: James Schofield
Age: 23
Estimated birth year: abt 1819
Date of Trial: 29 Aug 1842
Trial Year: 1842
Location of Trial: Lancashire, England
Sentence: Imprisonment 1mth and Sureties
Crime: Sedition (?) Riot
Date of Execution or Release:


Also at the same time was :-

Samuel Schofield aged 19yrs sentenced to 14 days although he may not of course be related.
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The Preston Strike and Lune Street Riot, which took place in Preston, in Lancashire, England over 12 and 13 August 1842, were part of the 1842 General Strike or ‘Plug Plot Riots’. These strikes and disturbances were prompted by depression in 1841-2 which resulted in wage cuts of over 25%. They were influenced by the Chartist movement and the government’s rejection of the petition for ‘People's Charter of 1838’, signed by over 1 million people who demanded a more democratic political system.

Disputes spread throughout the North West of England from late July 1842. Workers in Manchester and Stockport struck on 10 August, Bolton on 11 August and in Preston a mass meeting was called for Friday 12th. The demands made at most of the strike meetings were for a return to 1840 wages and an acceptance of the Charter. One of the Chartist leaders was Preston handloom weaver Richard Marsden.

I can see 2 possible marriages for James Schofield in Ireland:-

Name: James Schofield
Date of Registration: 1856
Registration district: Cork, Ireland
Volume: 4
Page Number: 469
FHL Film Number: 101246
Records on Page:
Name
William Peter Young
Sarah Cave
Mary Coleman
Mary Walsh
Mary Lyons
Harriet Whale
James Schofield
Denis Regan
John Morton

and this one:-

Name: James Schofield
Date of Registration: 1858
Registration district: Cork, Ireland
Volume: 4
Page Number: 462
FHL Film Number: 101247
Records on Page:
Name
xxxxxxxx James Schofield
Mary Broderick
xxxxxxxx Alice Wordsworth
Mary Anne Bleakker
Mary Chandler Mcgee
Charles Holliday
Thomas Hall
James Sheehy
Mary McGee Chandler

................as Alice is with her father in 1891 and her father is noted as George Wordsworth, then it is likely Wordsworth is her maiden name.
So, note list of possible spouses on above 1858 marriage and there is an Alice Wordsworth so I think this one is looking to be the correct one.


The family are therefore likely to be in Ireland in 1861.


EDIT:-

This is a transcript of the marriage:-

Name: Alice Wordsworth
Gender: Female
Marriage Date: 8 Jul 1858
Marriage Place: St Anne Shandon, Cork, Ireland
Father: George Wordsworth
Spouse: James Schofield
FHL Film Number: 101395
Reference ID: p462 ln108

.........which shows Alice's father as George Wordsworth.

............which also gives James' father as Jonathan:-
Name: James Schofield
Gender: Male
Marriage Date: 8 Jul 1858
Marriage Place: St Anne Shandon, Cork, Ireland
Father: Jonathan Schofield
Spouse: Alice Wordsworth
FHL Film Number: 101395
Reference ID: p462 ln108

I think this is Alice in 1901:-

Name: Alice Schofield
Age: 61
Estimated birth year: abt 1840
Relation to Head: Servant
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Wadworth, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Hessle
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Ecclesiastical parish: Hessle All Saints
Town: Hessle
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation: Cook Domestic
Condition as to marriage: Widow
Registration district: Sculcoates
Sub-registration district: Hessle
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4474
Folio: 61
Page Number: 17
Household schedule number: 105
Household Members:
Name Age
William Cooper 57
Harriet S P Cooper 48
Mildred D Cooper 17
Alice Schofield 61
Alice Constable 16

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I'm not sure if Margee's 1911 is correct as 1861 shows that Alice is married to a Walter Schofield and not James?????

I would think it is highly likely that George's mother was Irish and as his father was a soldier, he met her whilst being stationed in Ireland.

Maybe you should put Ireland in your heading so that anyone with more access to Irish bmd can help you find a birth certificate.

Yes, it is the same one. She is with her son Percy and if you look at the original, her age is 50 and not 30, so a transcription error.

Thank you Catherine and Margee

Looks like we been barking up the wrong tree after all , still need to find his birth certificate.
Well back to the drawing board , but at least we hopefully heading down the right path this time.

Many thanks
Maxine <3 <3

Is this Annie and mother Alice with Alice's parents in 1861? But husband is Walter.
Evidently this is a different family.


Annie Schofield

in the 1861 England Census
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Name: Annie Schofield
Age: 10/12
Estimated birth year: 1860
Relation: Granddaughter
Father's name: Walter Schofield
Mother's name: Alice Schofield
Gender: Female
Where born: Huddersfield, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Huddersfield
Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul
Town: Huddersfield
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Registration district: Huddersfield
Sub-registration district: Huddersfield
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 106
Piece: 3261
Folio: 14
Page Number: 22
Household Members:
Name Age
Ernest Cookson 54
Nancy Cookson 52
John A Cookson 23
Ernest Cookson 14
Walter Schofield 23
Alice Schofield 21
Annie Schofield 10/12

Catherine,
Is this the right Alice as on the 1881 census she was 39? Surely the 1891 would make her 49/50

Annie Mary seems to have been born 1860, Huddersfield.

Births Jun 1860 (>99%)
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SCHOFIELD Annie Mary Huddersfield 9a 303

In 1911 Alice seems to be living with a married daughter:


Alice Schofield

in the 1911 England Census
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Name: Alice Schofield
Age in 1911: 71
Estimated birth year: abt 1840
Relation to Head: Mother Of A M Dewhurst
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Huddersfield, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Wheatley
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County/Island: Yorkshire-West Riding
Country: England
Street address: 58 St Mary's Road Wheatley Doncaster
Marital Status: Widowed
Registration district: Doncaster
Registration District Number: 512
Sub-registration district: Doncaster
ED, institution, or vessel: 21
Piece: 28210
Household Members:
Name Age
William Henry Dewhurst 51
Annie Mary Dewhurst 50
Norman Stanley Dewhurst 16
Dorothy Margaret Alice Dewhurst 13
Alice Schofield 71

Marriages Dec 1886 (>99%)
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Dewhurst William Henry Doncaster 9c 956
Schofield Annie Mary Doncaster 9c 956

Catherine

How do i find a birth certificate for George William? If any exist