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Maxine
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24 Nov 2015 17:15 |
Hi, Im trying to find my rellie named above, his parents are (I think) James SCHOFIELD b1829 Hatfield, Yorkshire and Eliza BEDLINGTON b1826 Bridlington,East Yorkshire.
George William was born 1859ish in Fermoy, Cork , why his parents were there is a mystery. I have found a George William on the 1871 Census living in Gate Fulford , York but not sure if the parents are right or wrong they are named as James and Alice.
If anyone can give me any information where i can find a Birth certificate, as I am stuck here, I have either been barking up the wrong tree , or gone down the right path . Fingers crossed its the latter.
Anyway any help or info greatly appreciated Maxine
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Catherine
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24 Nov 2015 17:31 |
Do you have his marriage certificate? This would give you at least his father's name and occupation which may help find other info.
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Catherine
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24 Nov 2015 17:33 |
is this him?
Name: George William Schofield Age in 1911: 51 Estimated birth year: abt 1860 Relation to Head: Head Gender: Male Birth Place: Fermoy Cork, Ireland Civil Parish: Sculcoates Search Photos: Search for 'Sculcoates' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection County/Island: Yorkshire-East Riding Country: England Street address: 181 Hawthorn Avenue, Hull Marital Status: Married Occupation: Law Writer Registration district: Sculcoates Registration District Number: 521 Sub-registration district: Hessle ED, institution, or vessel: 12 Piece: 28622 Household Members: Name Age George William Schofield 51 Margaret Elizabeth Schofield 52
1901 Name: George W Schofield Age: 41 Estimated birth year: abt 1860 Relation to Head: Head Gender: Male Spouse: Margaret E Schofield Birth Place: Fermoy, Ireland Civil Parish: Holy Trinity Search Photos: Search for 'Holy Trinity' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection Ecclesiastical parish: St Matthew County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street address: Occupation: Solicitors Clerk Registration district: Hull Sub-registration district: Myton ED, institution, or vessel: 13 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 4503 Folio: 91 Page Number: 13 Household schedule number: 87 Household Members: Name Age George W Schofield 41 Margaret E Schofield 40 Leonard Schofield 19 Florence Schofield 17
1891 Name: George Wm Schofield Age: 31 Estimated birth year: abt 1860 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Margaret E Schofield Gender: Male Where born: Ireland Civil Parish: Holy Trinity Ecclesiastical parish: St Jude Town: Kingston upon Hull County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street address: Occupation: Solicitors Clerk Registration district: Hull Sub registration district: Myton ED, institution, or vessel: 23 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 3938 Folio: 120 Page Number: 3 Household Members: Name Age George Wm Schofield 31 Margaret E Schofield 32 George Wm Schofield 10 Leonard Schofield 9 Florence Schofield 6
1881 Name: George W. Schofield Age: 22 Estimated birth year: abt 1859 Relationship to Head: Head Spouse: Margaret E. Schofield Gender: Male Where born: Ireland Civil Parish: Kingston-Upon-Hull County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street address: 8 Adas Ter Marital Status: Married Occupation: Solicitors General Law Clerk Registration district: Hull Sub registration district: Myton ED, institution, or vessel: 22 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 4770 Folio: 115 Page Number: 34 Household Members: Name Age George W. Schofield 22 Margaret E. Schofield 22 George W. Schofield 1
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Catherine
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24 Nov 2015 17:38 |
If above is correct then this looks to be their marriage:-
Marriages Mar 1878 (>99%) COOPER Margaret Elizabeth Hull 9d 315 DENISON Laura Hull 9d 315 HALLER Thomas Hull 9d 315 SCHOFIELD George William Hull 9d 315
(from Yorkshire bmd:- SCHOFIELD George W COOPER Margaret E St Judes Hull HJU/1/74)
............so if you don't have it, I would suggest buying a copy of the certificate to be sure.
What makes you think his parents were James and Eliza?
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MargaretM
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24 Nov 2015 17:43 |
I can't find the 1871 census to which you refer.
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Maxine
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24 Nov 2015 17:47 |
Yes Catherine that is him , my sister has his marriage certificate , and his father is down as James Schofield , am trying to find his birth certificate to find out who his mother is , not sure if it is Eliza BEDLINGTON or Alice that is named on the 1871 census , living in Gate Fulford in York
Thank you
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Maxine
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24 Nov 2015 17:52 |
Margee
The 1871 census is on findmypast , it says he was born 1860 in Ireland and they're living in York.
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Catherine
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24 Nov 2015 17:52 |
What was James' occupapation please? Any witnesses on the certificate that may be relatives?
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Catherine
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24 Nov 2015 17:54 |
The 1871?
Name: George W Shefield Age: 11 Estimated birth year: abt 1860 Relation: Son Father's name: James Shefield Mother's name: Alice Shefield Gender: Male Where born: Cork, Ireland Civil Parish: Gate Fulford County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Registration district: York Sub-registration district: Walmgate ED, institution, or vessel: 26 Household schedule number: 314 Piece: 4753 Folio: 54 Page Number: 52 Household Members: Name Age James Shefield 47 born: Heywood, Lancashire, England (occupation :- Licensed Victuller - address :- Victoria Inn) Alice Shefield 31 born: Wadworth, Yorkshire George W Shefield 11 Thomas J Shefield 7
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MargaretM
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24 Nov 2015 18:03 |
Ah, couldn't see him on the 71 census on Ancestry because surname was mistranscribed Sheffield although it's very clearly Schofield on original. I see James was a licensed victualer at the "Victoria Inn" It says James born Heywood, Lancs and Alice Wadworth, Yorks.
James Shefield
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Name: James Shefield Age: 47 Estimated birth year: abt 1824 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Alice Shefield Gender: Male Where born: Heywood, Lancashire, England Civil Parish: Gate Fulford County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Registration district: York Sub-registration district: Walmgate ED, institution, or vessel: 26 Household schedule number: 314 Piece: 4753 Folio: 54 Page Number: 52 Household Members: Name Age James Shefield 47 Alice Shefield 31 George W Shefield 11 Thomas J Shefield 7
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Maxine
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24 Nov 2015 18:04 |
Catherine
Just spoke to my sis and she has no idea how we came up with Eliza, maybe it has just been picked up along the way, whilst we have been searching marriages for James SCHOFIELD.
:-(
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Catherine
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24 Nov 2015 18:07 |
1881 states father was a former soldier which is probably why he was in Ireland:-
Name: James Schofield Age: 60 Estimated birth year: abt 1821 Relationship to Head: Head Spouse: Alice Schofield Gender: Male Where born: Haywood, Lancashire, England Civil Parish: Gate Fulford County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street address: Oxford Villa Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Formerly Soldier
Registration district: York ED, institution, or vessel: 29 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 4726 Folio: 56 Page Number: 9 Household Members: Name Age James Schofield 60 Alice Schofield 39 Thomas Joseph Schofield 17 Percy W. Schofield 5 Mary Birttie Te??litz 45
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Maxine
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24 Nov 2015 18:08 |
Margee
On the wedding certificate of George William and Margaret E COOPER , his father James was a publican.
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Catherine
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24 Nov 2015 18:10 |
In 1891 Alice is widowed and living with her father:-
Name: Alice Schofield [Alice Wordsworth] Age: 30 Estimated birth year: abt 1861 Relation: Daughter Father's name: George Wordsworth Gender: Female Where born: York, Yorkshire, England Civil Parish: Newington Ecclesiastical parish: Newington Town: Kingston upon Hull County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street address:
Occupation: Housekeeper
Condition as to marriage: Widow
Registration district: Sculcoates ED, institution, or vessel: 22 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 3919 Folio: 108 Page Number: 1 Household Members: Name Age George Wordsworth 85 (1806 born: Wenlworth, Yorkshire,) Alice Schofield 30 (should be 50) Percy Schofield 15 (solicistors clerk)
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Maxine
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24 Nov 2015 18:13 |
Catherine
How do i find a birth certificate for George William? If any exist
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MargaretM
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24 Nov 2015 18:16 |
In 1911 Alice seems to be living with a married daughter:
Alice Schofield
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Name: Alice Schofield Age in 1911: 71 Estimated birth year: abt 1840 Relation to Head: Mother Of A M Dewhurst Gender: Female Birth Place: Huddersfield, Yorkshire, England Civil Parish: Wheatley Search Photos: Search for 'Wheatley' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection County/Island: Yorkshire-West Riding Country: England Street address: 58 St Mary's Road Wheatley Doncaster Marital Status: Widowed Registration district: Doncaster Registration District Number: 512 Sub-registration district: Doncaster ED, institution, or vessel: 21 Piece: 28210 Household Members: Name Age William Henry Dewhurst 51 Annie Mary Dewhurst 50 Norman Stanley Dewhurst 16 Dorothy Margaret Alice Dewhurst 13 Alice Schofield 71
Marriages Dec 1886 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dewhurst William Henry Doncaster 9c 956 Schofield Annie Mary Doncaster 9c 956
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MargaretM
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24 Nov 2015 18:19 |
Annie Mary seems to have been born 1860, Huddersfield.
Births Jun 1860 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- SCHOFIELD Annie Mary Huddersfield 9a 303
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Maxine
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24 Nov 2015 18:21 |
Catherine, Is this the right Alice as on the 1881 census she was 39? Surely the 1891 would make her 49/50
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MargaretM
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24 Nov 2015 18:23 |
Is this Annie and mother Alice with Alice's parents in 1861? But husband is Walter. Evidently this is a different family.
Annie Schofield
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Name: Annie Schofield Age: 10/12 Estimated birth year: 1860 Relation: Granddaughter Father's name: Walter Schofield Mother's name: Alice Schofield Gender: Female Where born: Huddersfield, Yorkshire, England Civil Parish: Huddersfield Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul Town: Huddersfield County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England
Registration district: Huddersfield Sub-registration district: Huddersfield ED, institution, or vessel: 1 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 106 Piece: 3261 Folio: 14 Page Number: 22 Household Members: Name Age Ernest Cookson 54 Nancy Cookson 52 John A Cookson 23 Ernest Cookson 14 Walter Schofield 23 Alice Schofield 21 Annie Schofield 10/12
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Maxine
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24 Nov 2015 18:28 |
Thank you Catherine and Margee
Looks like we been barking up the wrong tree after all , still need to find his birth certificate. Well back to the drawing board , but at least we hopefully heading down the right path this time.
Many thanks Maxine <3 <3
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