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joysie4

joysie4 Report 2 Oct 2015 12:08

Can someone let me know if william h mcdowell b 1874 devonport married Selena Leathleam b 1863 m 1889 stoke damerel devon that would make him 15 ??? someone on G.R years ago gave me this information

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 2 Oct 2015 12:17

??????????
Name William Henry Mcdowell
Event Type Birth Registration
Registration Quarter Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration Year 1874
Registration District Stoke Damerel
County Devon
Event Place Stoke Damerel, Devon, England
Volume 5B
Page 325
Line Number 214

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 2 Oct 2015 12:18



Wm Mc Dowell

England and Wales Census, 1881

Name Wm Mc Dowell
Age (Original) 8
Gender Male
Birth Year 1873
Birthplace Devonport, Devon, England
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Marital Status Single
Occupation Scholar
Address 41 Duke Street
Event Place Devonport Stoke-Damerel, Devonshire, England
Record Type Household
Affiliate Publication Number RG11
Piece/Folio 2207 / 3
Page Number 1

William H Mc Dowell Head M 34 Devonport, Devon, England
Edith Mc Dowell Wife F 35 Penryn, Cornwall, England
Elizh Mc Dowell Daughter F 12 Devonport, Devon, England
Alfred Mc Dowell Son M 10 Devonport, Devon, England
Wm Mc Dowell Son M 8 Devonport, Devon, England
Emily Mc Dowell Daughter F 6 Devonport, Devon, England
Edmund Mc Dowell Son M 2 Devonport, Devon, England

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 2 Oct 2015 12:19

Name William Henry Mcdowell
Event Type Marriage
Registration Quarter Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration Year 1889
Registration District Stoke Damerel
County Devon
Event Place Stoke Damerel, Devon, England
Volume 5B
Page 703
Line Number 140

William Henry Mcdowell probably married one of the following people

Name Selina Blanche Leathlean

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 2 Oct 2015 12:20

William born in 1865:

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
24 Balmoral Avenue Devonport, Devonport, Devon, England

William H McDowell Head Married Male Ropemaker H M Dockyd 46 1865 Devon Devonport
Selina B McDowell Wife Married Female - 46 1865 Devon Devonport
Mariel L McDowell Daughter Single Female - 15 1896 Devon Devonport

Married 21 years, 2 children, 1 still living

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 2 Oct 2015 12:20

Name William H Mcdowell
Event Type Census
Event Date 1911
County Devonshire
Parish Devonport
Sub-District Stoke
Registration District Devonport
Gender Male
Age 46
Birthplace Port, Devonshire
Record Type Household

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 2 Oct 2015 12:21

???????

Name William Henry Mcdowell
Event Type Census
Event Date 1911
County Dorsetshire
Parish Wareham Lady St Mary
Sub-District Wareham
Registration District Wareham
Gender Male
Age 69
Birthplace Port, Devonshire
Record Type Institution

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 2 Oct 2015 12:22

William with Selina Blanche- born 1865 again:

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
6, Sydney Street, Plymouth, Devon, England

William H McDowell Head Married Male 36 1865 Ropemaker Devonport, Devon, England
Blanche McDowell Wife Married Female 36 1865 - Devonport, Devon, England
Muriel L McDowell Daughter Single Female 5 1896 - Devonport, Devon, England


Plymouth Baptism Register Transcription

First name(s) William Henry
Last name Mcdowell
Birth year 1865
Birth date 18 Feb 1865
Baptism year 1865
Baptism date 20 Apr 1865
Denomination Anglican
Place Devonport, St James the Great
Father's first name(s) William Henry
Mother's first name(s) Jane
County Devon
Country England
Archive Plymouth & West Devon Record Office
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First name(s) SELINA BLANCHE
Last name LEATHLEAN
Birth year 1864
Birth quarter 4
District STOKE DAMEREL
County Devon
Volume 5B Page 303
-------------------------------------------------------

So William was born 1865, and Selina was born 1864.
Hope this helps :-)

GlasgowLass

GlasgowLass Report 2 Oct 2015 12:24

William McDowell
Registration Year: 1889
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration district: Stoke Damerel
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County: Devon
Volume: 5b
Page: 703

Records on Page:
Name
Charlotte Jane Body
John William Hart
Selina Blanche Leathlean
*****William Henry McDowell

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 2 Oct 2015 13:14

His death:

First name(s) WILLIAM H
Last name MCDOWELL
Gender Male
Birth year 1866
Age 73
Death quarter 1
Death year 1939
District PLYMOUTH
County Devon
Volume 5B Page 366


National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966

Name: William Henry McDowell
Probate Date: 28 Mar 1939
Registry: Exeter
Death Date: 5 Jan 1939
Death Place: Plymouth, Devon, England

McDowell William Henry of 60 Brynmoor Park Higher Compton, Plymouth died 5th January 1939 at Prince of Wales Hospital, Greenbank, Plymouth Probate Exeter 28 March to Selina Blanche McDowell widow and Murial Leathlean McDowell spinster

Catherine

Catherine Report 2 Oct 2015 13:38

Birth to go with the baptism:-

Births Mar 1865 (>99%)
McDOWELL William Henry Stoke D. 5B 372

joysie4

joysie4 Report 2 Oct 2015 21:05

Thank you all for the replies but none of these dates fit in with mine

As my william henry mcdowell head b 1847 devon
Son william henry mcdowell b 1874 devon died in the US


Austin Q who is William Henry b 1865 also who is still living ??

Unless I have my tree wrong as there are so many William Henry Mc Dowells

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 2 Oct 2015 21:25

Joyce, not sure if you know how to find your past 'Threads', as there are quite a few!, could be that info. you seek has already been posted before, perhaps.

Look to left of page here, see heading 'Tools', then underneath 'My Threads'...(this will help you to find them, or, you can always google, they come up!)

Chris :)

BeverleyW

BeverleyW Report 2 Oct 2015 21:26

It appears that the W.H. McDowell who married Selena Leathleam is not the one you are looking for since he was a fair bit older.
When did your man emigrate and when/where did he die?

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 2 Oct 2015 21:33

(perhaps below)

Chris :)

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1269595


Flick Report 30 May 2011 13:28

Is this their marriage?

Marriages Mar 1869 (>99%)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Dawe Emily Stoke D 5b 507
McDowell William Henry Stoke D 5b 507
PARRETT John Stoke D. 5b 507
RUNDLE Editha Harriett Stoke D 5b 507

joysie4

joysie4 Report 2 Oct 2015 21:36

Found them My 3rd great grandparents William Mc b 1792 m Mary Gerry
Son William b 1828 m Jane Furlong
Son William Henry Mc b 1865 so he married Selena I had her married to the wrong William so I hope this is correct now

Thank You all so much

May I ask another question please
Did William H Mc b 1847 Marry again after Editha Rundle died in 1881

Also Did he go to the US

alviegal

alviegal Report 2 Oct 2015 21:40

His parents' marriage. He was a seaman RN of 50 Mount Street. Samuel Hellyer and Louisa Wilson were witnesses. His father was a shoemaker and hers was a shipwright.


Devon Marriages Transcription
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First name(s) William Henry
Last name Mcdowell
Age 21
Birth year 1848
Marriage year 1869
Marriage date 19 Feb 1869
Denomination Anglican
Place Devonport, St Mary
Father's first name(s) John
Father's last name McDowell
Spouse's first name(s) Editha Harriett
Spouse's last name Rundle
Spouse's age 22
Spouse's father's first name(s) Edmund Polglass
Spouse's father's last name Rundle



Male 67 1824 Pensioner Upottery, Devon, England
Transcription
Fanny Hore Wife Married Female 67 1824 - Plympton, Devon, England
Transcription
John Hore Son Single Male 19 1872 Painter Stonehouse, Devon, England
Transcription
George Webber Nephew Single Male 30 1861 Plaster Labourer Alderney, Channel Islands, England
Transcription
>>W H McDowell Boarder Widower Male 43 1848 Boiler Maker Devonport, Devon, England
Transcription
Edmund McDowell Boarder - Male 11 1880 Scholar Devonport, Devon, England

joysie4

joysie4 Report 2 Oct 2015 22:06

Yes married 1869 W.H MC m E.Rundle

William H Mc b 1847 died in Devon 1897

But his son William Henry b 1874 died in N.Y ??

I was told emigrated in 1888 who I think is my great uncle not sure on this one as a lady who says im her 3rd cousin sent me photos of my Father Edmund and Uncle Jack

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 3 Oct 2015 06:41

http://www.findagrave.com/

(for New York, he could possibly be on above)

William H McDowell
Birth: 1874
Death: 1934
Inscription:
1874-1934
Burial: Saint Marys Cemetery
Waddington
St. Lawrence County
New York, USA

Chris :)


(these items came up too!)


24 April 1884 - Cornishman - Penzance, Cornwall, England

Devonport magistrates have sentenced William Henry McDowell, an assistant-engineer, to three months' imprisonment for deserting his family of four children.


08 October 1914 - Western Times - Exeter, Devon, England

Offence At East Stonehouse
William Henry McDowell, 71, seaman, pleaded guilty to an offence at East Stonehouse on May 20th, 1912. It was stated, that the accused, after the offence disappeared for some time until found at Devonport and was arrested. He was sentenced to 12 months imprisonment with hard labour.



(if you check 'Search All Member Trees' (top right of page, under 'Search') you will see the lady who perhaps shares him with you)


Births Mar 1874 (>99%)
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McDowell William Henry Stoke D. 5b 325


(also a couple of Members who have Selena Leathlean)


Births Dec 1864 (>99%)
----------------------------------------------------------------
LEATHLEAN Selina Blanche Stoke D 5b 303


Marriages Dec 1889 (>99%)
-------------------------------------------------------------
Leathlean Selina Blanche Stoke D. 5b 703
McDowell William Henry Stoke D. 5b 703


(having copies of Certs. makes things easier, and gives you the facts also!)

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 3 Oct 2015 09:14

I'm confused- I'm not sure which William you are looking for?

The William H McDowell that married Selina B Leathlean was born in 1865 (to William H McDowell and Jane Furlong). William died in 1939 Plymouth.

This is him before his marriage, living with his family (1881 census):

1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
94, Albert Road, Devonport Stoke-Damerel, Stoke-Damerel, Devon, England

William Mc Dowell Head Married Male 50 1831 Assistant Founder H M Dockyd ? Devonport, Devon,
Jane Mc Dowell Wife Married Female 41 1840 - Pembroke, Pembrokeshire, Wales
William H Mc Dowell Son Single Male 16 1865 Ropemakers Apprentice Devonport, Devon,
Amy J Mc Dowell Daughter Single Female 9 1872 Scholar Devonport, Devon,
------------------------------------------------------

The William Henry McDowell born in 1874 did not marry Selina Leathlean.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------

This is the 1874 William H McDowell with his parents William H McDowell and Editha Harriet Rundle (1881 census)

1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
41, Duke Street, Devonport Stoke-Damerel, Stoke-Damerel, Devon, England

William H Mc Dowell Head Married Male 34 1847 Asst Boiler Maker Devonport, Devon, England
Edith Mc Dowell Wife Married Female 35 1846 - Penryn, Cornwall, England
Elizh Mc Dowell Daughter Single Female 12 1869 Scholar Devonport, Devon,
Alfred Mc Dowell Son Single Male 10 1871 Scholar Devonport, Devon,
Wm Mc Dowell Son Single Male 8 1873 Scholar Devonport, Devon,
Emily Mc Dowell Daughter Single Female 6 1875 Scholar Devonport, Devon,
Edmund Mc Dowell Son Single Male 2 1879 - Devonport, Devon,
---------------------------------------------------------------------

Someone on Ancestry has this as his grave:

Wiliam H McDowell 1874- 1947
Lillian G McDowell 1885- 1961

Someone has included a note that the initial G stands for Lillian's maiden name Golder.
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=pv&GRid=134546984&PIpi=107531720

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=mcdowell&GSfn=lillian&GSbyrel=all&GSdy=1961&GSdyrel=in&GSob=n&GRid=134546984&df=all&