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AustinQ

AustinQ Report 3 Oct 2015 10:29

This is the baptism of William Henry born in 1874 (I think mother was probably Editha Harriet, although she is listed as just Harriett):

First name(s) William Henry
Last name Macdowell
Birth year 1874
Birth date 21 Feb 1874
Baptism year 1874
Baptism date 09 Apr 1874
Denomination Anglican
Place Devonport, St Stephen
Father's first name(s) William Henry
Mother's first name(s) Harriett
County Devon
Country England
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Fortunately that baptism gives us his birth date- this ties in with this US WW1 registration Card:

Name: William Henry McDowell
County: Nassau
State: New York
Birth Date: 21 Feb 1874
Race: White
Draft Board: 4
If not a citizen of the US state what nation: Great Britain
Occupation: Flagman
Place of employment: Earl Av, Lynbrook, Nassau
Nearest relative: Lilian Maria McDowell of Nicholas Av, East Rockaway
Dated: Sept 12th 1918

joysie4

joysie4 Report 3 Oct 2015 10:44

Austin Q
You have been busy that was news about william henry which one ??

im confused about is that why the children went to america who did they live with

Also a surprise about the grave as rose never sent me that one

Rose and her sisterinlaw Dee isnt on genes reunited and i cant find anyone tracing selena leathleam either

Thanks for all this information which is very interesting its very kind of you joyce

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 3 Oct 2015 13:44

I suspect that William Henry born in 1874 was sent to Canada first as a home child.

It looks like his mother (Editha) died in 1881. May be his father died or could not look after all the children?

There is a William McDowell listed on the home children records but no age is given- but this could well be him:
http://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/discover/immigration/immigration-records/home-children-1869-1930/immigration-records/Pages/item.aspx?IdNumber=32322&

His sister Emily Ellen was definitely sent to Canada in 1889:

http://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/discover/immigration/immigration-records/home-children-1869-1930/immigration-records/Pages/item.aspx?IdNumber=29835&

This is her baptism:

First name(s) Emily Ellen
Last name Macdowell
Birth year 1876
Birth date 18 Mar 1876
Baptism year 1876
Baptism date 11 May 1876
Denomination Anglican
Place Devonport, St Stephen
Father's first name(s) William Henry
Mother's first name(s) Edith
County Devon
Country England
Page 317
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joysie4

joysie4 Report 3 Oct 2015 16:12

Austin
Thank you very much for all the searching you have done on my mcdowells at least I know why they ended up abroad

I would stilll like to know the person who is still living on your paragraph dated 2/10/15 at 12.20 who is the brother to Muriel b 1896 Mother Selena Leathlean Father William b 1865

joyce :-D

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 3 Oct 2015 17:13

(Duke Street on that 1881 Census eh?!!)


Marriages Dec 1881 (>99%)
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Boswarva Elizabeth Mooringe Stoke D 5b 623
McDOWELL William Henry Stoke D. 5b 623


(image on Find My Past for above, Widower, Assistant Boiler Maker, 41 Duke Street, his Father, William Henry, occ. Fitter. Her, Spinster, 29, Father, Robert John, occ. Clerk)


Deaths Jun 1881 (>99%)
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McDOWELL Editha Harriett 34 Stoke D. 5b 203



1851 (Find My Past)
John R Boswarva Head Married Male 31 1820 Accountant Plymouth, Devon, England
Adeline E Boswarva Wife Married Female 31 1820 - Islington, Middlesex, England
John T Boswarva Son - Male 9 1842 Scholar -
House number 13
Street Queen Street
Parish St Andrew
City Plymouth
County Devon
House number 13
Street Queen Street
Parish St Andrew
City Plymouth
County Devon


1861 (Find My Past)
Adaline Boswarva Wife Married Female 40 1821 Teacher London, Middlesex, England
Elizabeth Boswarva Daughter Unmarried Female 16 1845 Milliner Plymouth, Devon, England
Frederick Boswarva Son - Male 9 1852 Scholar Plymouth, Devon, England
Mary Gorddard Niece - Female 4 1857 Scholar Plymouth, Devon, England
Maria Bath Lodger Widow Female 45 1816 No Occupation Plymouth, Devon, England
House number 35
Street James Street
Parish Charles
City or borough Plymouth
County Devon
Municipal ward Drakes
Parliamentary borough Plymouth
Registration district Plymouth
Enumeration district 17
Archive reference RG09
Piece number 1438
Folio number 34
Page number 3


Marriages Jun 1838 (>99%)
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BOSWARVA John Robert Stoke Damerel 9 540 S
MORRISON Adaline Elizabeth Stoke Damerel 9 540


Deaths Mar 1900 (>99%)
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Boswarva Adaline E 81 Plymouth 5b 233



http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/genealogy_chat/thread/1236326

Chris :)

(not sure on anything here!, head getting fuzzier, lol, can only suggest some Certs. being obtained perhaps)


(and Joyce, the reason why you can't find others sharing Selena, they have her as Selina, there are a couple of Members!)

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 3 Oct 2015 17:17

Joyce- that information was from the 1911 census- which tells us that Selena and William had two children, but one had died- Murial was the child still living.

HOWEVER, if your Father was Edmund McDowell, the son of Alfred Ernest McDowell, then Selena Leathlean and William H Mcdowell born 1865 are not your family.

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 3 Oct 2015 17:40

So William Henry (Father of William Henry and Alfred Ernest) did remarry after Editha's death.

Death of Elizabeth:
First name(s) ELIZABETH M
Last name MAC DOWELL
Gender Female
Birth year 1847
Age 66
Death quarter 4
Death year 1913
District PLYMOUTH
County Devon
Volume 5B Page 285

joysie4

joysie4 Report 3 Oct 2015 19:37

Austin
Of course they never if they had no sons silly me

I had a feeling he married again as my grt grandmother died young her name doesnt sound english did they have any children

I cant wait to tell my son what you found in that newspaper

Many Thanks joyce

joysie4

joysie4 Report 3 Oct 2015 19:43

Sorry Chris Ho should have replied to your information about William Henry marrying again Thank you joyce

joysie4

joysie4 Report 4 Oct 2015 10:38

Chris Ho
Sorry again I praised the wrong person who found the first newspaper on william henry instead of you you are so kind to find all this information out for me I am going to print it off to show my family now

joyce