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8 Sep 2015 04:42 |
Died 12 Nov 1970 at Claybury Hospital
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8 Sep 2015 04:44 |
Can the Claybury Hospital still have patient files?
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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8 Sep 2015 09:08 |
They may have but whether they would open them is another question.
What are you trying to find ??
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8 Sep 2015 09:14 |
seems its been shut down and built on History[edit] Claybury was built from 1889-1893.The land was previously used for chickens.The architect was George Thomas Hine; Peter Cracknell describes it as the first Compact Arrow design. Situated on the brow of a hill, the site incorporated around 50 acres (200,000 m2) of ancient woodland and 95 acres (380,000 m2) of open parkland, ponds, pasture and historic gardens. These had been designed in 1789 by the landscape architect Sir Humphry Repton for the owner, James Hatch, of what was then called the Claybury Estate. "Claybury" was the name given to a fictitious village in the stories of W. W. Jacobs, but is generally thought to be based on nearby Loughton, where Jacobs lived.
From 1893 it was known as London County Lunatic Asylum, Ilford.
Closure[edit] With the Care in the Community Programme and the inevitable decline in patient numbers from its peak of 4,000 patients, Claybury faced a difficult future. The NHS pressed for extensive demolition and maximum new build, whereas the Local Planning Authority and English Heritage argued for maximum retention of the historic buildings and restriction of new build to the existing footprint, in accordance with the Green Belt allocation in the Unitary Development Plan.
A 60 day Public Inquiry was held in 1997 and the Council/English Heritage position was accepted. The hospital was shut down and converted into luxury flats called Repton Park by Crest Nicholson, working closely with English Heritage and the London Wildlife Trust.
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8 Sep 2015 09:16 |
seems as you have her date of death you have the death cert ??
if not it may help
First name(s) EDITH Last name HOLLEY Gender Female Birth day 6 Birth month 8 Birth year 1891 Age - Death quarter 4 Death year 1970 District REDBRIDGE County Essex Volume 5D Page 1580
possibly her birth First name(s) EDITH Last name HOLLEY Birth year 1891 Birth quarter 3 Registration month - Mother's last name - District WEST HAM County Essex Country England Volume 4A Page 275
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8 Sep 2015 09:21 |
if she never married this looks like her on the census
1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
24, Toronto Road, Low Leyton, West Ham, Essex, England
John T Holley Head Married Male 48 1853 Compositor Printer (Journeyman) City of London, Middlesex, England Transcription Ellen Holley Wife Married Female 44 1857 - Eaton Socon, Bedfordshire, England Transcription George H Holley Son Single Male 24 1877 House Painter Eaton Socon, Bedfordshire, England Transcription Alfred J Holley Son Single Male 22 1879 House Painter Eaton Socon, Bedfordshire, England Transcription Walter T Holley Son Single Male 21 1880 Railway Engine Cleaner Hopton, London, England Transcription Herbert Holley Son Single Male 13 1888 - Essex, England Transcription Edith Holley Daughter Single Female 9 1892 - Leyton, Essex, England Transcription Ethel F Holley Daughter Single Female 8 1893 - Leyton, Essex, England Transcription Ellen Holley Daughter Single Female 6 1895 - Leyton, Essex, England Transcription
1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 103 Poppleton Road Leytonstone, Low Leyton, Essex, England
Antonio D Bredenberg Head Married Male General Merchant 42 1869 Sweden Res Transcription Elizabeth Bredenberg Wife Married Female - 38 1873 Dalston London Transcription Ellen H Bredenberg Sister Single Female Masseuse 34 1877 Sweden Res Transcription Edith Holley Servant Single Female - 19 1892 Leytonstone Essex Transcription
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8 Sep 2015 10:01 |
Earlier hospital records here:
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/hospitalrecords/details.asp?id=32&page=13
Maybe try contacting London Metropolitan Archives or one of the administrative bodies listed, in case they can tell you where more recent records would be?
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8 Sep 2015 11:39 |
Welcome to the Community boards John.
(I'll let John know how to find his replies) :-)
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16 Sep 2015 02:49 |
I can confirm that Edith Louise Holly was born on 14 Jun 1891 at Warleigh,Bathford,RSDand her parents were listed as William Holly and Alice Priscilla Pickering.. The death cert States the a Edith Holley died on the 12 Nov 1970 at 19 ManorRd Redbridge.the date of birth is said to be 6 Aug 18919 I believe that this could be either christing or date commited to the hospital.She does not appear in any of the family censors. What I need is some information that the Edith Holley on the death certQBDY875414 is the Edith Louise Holly (as per details given) are the same?
Thanks John Holley
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16 Sep 2015 07:16 |
The death certificate would seem more to tie up with the Edith that I posted birth and census info for above
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16 Sep 2015 07:27 |
Have you found them on any census
Marriages Jun 1887 Holly William Bath 5c 1053 Pickering Alice Priscilla Bath 5c 1053
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16 Sep 2015 07:30 |
Looks like them with other children 1901 census
Scotland Census Transcription Rosemary Lane, Hinton Charterhouse, Bath, Somerset, England
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Print transcription View image Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place William Holly Head Married Male 37 1864 Gardener (Not Domestic) Melksham, Wiltshire, England Transcription Alice Holly Wife Married Female 38 1863 - Bath, Somerset, England Transcription William Holly Son - Male 11 1890 Evening News Agent Bathford, Somerset, England Transcription Maud Holly Daughter - Female 7 1894 - Keynsham, Somerset, England Transcription Walter Holly Son - Male 6 1895 - Keynsham, Somerset, England Transcription Amy Holly Daughter - Female 4 1897 - Keynsham, Somerset, England Transcription Ernest Holly Son - Male 0 1901
And 1891 census
Scotland Census Transcription Warleigh Manor Lodge, Warleigh Lane, Bathford, Bath, Somerset, England
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Print transcription View image Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place William Holly Head Married Male 27 1864 Gardner Bathford, Somerset, England Transcription Allice P Holly Wife Married Female 28 1863 - Bath, Somerset, England Transcription Bessie Mary Holly Daughter - Female 3 1888 - Bath, Somerset, England Transcription William H Holly Son - Male 1 1890 - Warleigh, Somerset, England
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16 Sep 2015 07:33 |
Edith is not with this family on either 1901 or 1911. ?
1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Upper Limpley Stoke Bath, Limpley Stoke, Wiltshire, England
Learn more Print transcription View image Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Occupation Age Birth year Birth place William Holly Head Married Male Gardener Domestic 47 1864 Melksham Transcription Alice Prisellia Holly Wife Married Female - 48 1863 Bath Som Transcription Bessie Mary Holly Daughter Single Female Housemaid 23 1888 Bathford Som Transcription William Henry Holly Son Single Male Gardener Domestic 21 1890 Bathford Som Transcription Walter Charles Holly Son Single Male Cowman 16 1895 Keynsham Somerset Transcription Amy Florence Holly Daughter - Female - 14 1897 Keynsham Somerset Transcription Ernest Robert Holly Son - Male - 10 1901 Freshford Som Transcription Fredrick Holly Son - Male - 8 1903 Freshford Som Transcription Reggie Holly Son - Male - 6 1905 Limpley Stoke Wilts Transcription Gladys Holly Daughter - Female - 4 1907 Limpley Stoke Wilts
married 24 years. 12 children (10 living + 2 have died)
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16 Sep 2015 07:37 |
1911 census
England & Scotland Census Transcription Upper Limpley Stoke Bath, Limpley Stoke, Wiltshire, England
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Print transcription View image Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Occupation Age Birth year Birth place William Holly Head Married Male Gardener Domestic 47 1864 Melksham Transcription Alice Prisellia Holly Wife Married Female - 48 1863 Bath Som Transcription Bessie Mary Holly Daughter Single Female Housemaid 23 1888 Bathford Som Transcription William Henry Holly Son Single Male Gardener Domestic 21 1890 Bathford Som Transcription Walter Charles Holly Son Single Male Cowman 16 1895 Keynsham Somerset Transcription Amy Florence Holly Daughter - Female - 14 1897 Keynsham Somerset Transcription Ernest Robert Holly Son - Male - 10 1901 Freshford Som Transcription Fredrick Holly Son - Male - 8 1903 Freshford Som Transcription Reggie Holly Son - Male - 6 1905 Limpley Stoke Wilts Transcription Gladys Holly Daughter - Female - 4 1907 Limpley Stoke Wilts
Married 24 years 12 children born 10 still living
So would say Edith was one of the deceased children
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Chris Ho :)
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16 Sep 2015 07:45 |
Baptism County Somerset Place Bathford Church St Swithin Tr RegisterNumber DateOfBirth BaptismDate 26 Jul 1891 Forename Edith Louise Sex F FatherForename William MotherForename Alice FatherSurname HOLLY Abode Warleigh FatherOccupation Labourer
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27 May 1888 HOLLY Bessie Mary Somerset Bathford 21 Jul 1889 HOLLY William Henry Somerset Bathford
Births Sep 1891 (>99%) ------------------------------------------------ HOLLY Edith Louise Bath 5c 599
Deaths Dec 1940 (>99%) --------------------------------------------------- Holley Alice P 78 Kingswood 6a 533
Deaths Dec 1932 (>99%) ------------------------------------------------------------ HOLLEY William 69 Bradford-on-A. 5a 124
Chris :)
(another Family below)
Baptism County Somerset Place Bath Church Christ Church Pr RegisterNumber 684 DateOfBirth BaptismDate 05 Jul 1891 Forename Edith Mary FatherForename William MotherForename Alice FatherSurname HOLLEY Abode Ballance Street FatherOccupation Groom
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27 Jul 1884 HOLLEY Lilian Evelyn Alice Somerset Bath (Abode.Mount Pleasant. Groom)
(others, Ballance Street)
23 May 1890 HOLLEY Florence May 05 Jul 1891 HOLLEY Frederick William Somerset Bath 05 Jul 1891 HOLLEY Beatrice Kate Somerset Bath 17 Jan 1897 HOLLY Charles Henry Somerset Bath
http://www.freereg.org.uk/cgi/Search.pl
Marriages Dec 1883 (>99%) ---------------------------------------------------------- Butler William Edward Bath 5c 1093 Davis Annie Bath 5c 1093 HOLLEY William Charles Bath 5c 1093 ROSSITER Alice Bath 5c 1093
(if above fits, for Ballance Street!)
1891 (Find My Past) William Holley Head Married Male 32 1859 Groom Bradford on Avon, Wiltshire, England Alice Holley Wife Married Female 34 1857 - Harrington Lily Holley Daughter Single Female 7 1884 - Bath Edith Holley Daughter Single Female 6 1885 - Bath Florence Holley Daughter Single Female 4 1887 - Bath Beatrice Holley Daughter Single Female 2 1889 - Bath Street Ballance Street Parish Bath County Somerset Registration district Bath Archive reference RG12 Piece number 1938 Folio 38 Page 7
Births Jun 1889 (>99%) --------------------------------------------- Holley Edith Maria Bath 5c 609
(perhaps for above Edith)
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Chris Ho :)
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16 Sep 2015 08:45 |
1901 (Find My Past) Henry Fletcher Head Married Male 35 1866 Blastfurnce Engine Driver Freshford, Somerset, England Frances Fletcher Wife Married Female 47 1854 - United States Edith Louisa Holly Niece - Female 9 1892 - Keynsham, Somerset, England Street Solway View Parish Workington County Cumberland Municipal ward South Registration district Cockermouth Archive reference RG13 Piece number 4885 Folio 116 Page 2
(no idea on above!)
Chris :)
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Dea
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16 Sep 2015 09:06 |
Well done Chris !!
SO, this is Edith on 1911:
Frances Fletcher
Name: Frances Fletcher Age in 1911: 57 Estimated birth year: abt 1854 Relation to Head: Head Gender: Female Birth Place: Brooklyn, United States Civil Parish: Workington Search Photos: Search for 'Workington' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection County/Island: Cumberland Country: England Street address: 175 Solway View Workington Marital Status: Widowed Occupation: House Work Registration district: Cockermouth Registration District Number: 576 Sub-registration district: Workington ED, institution, or vessel: 25 Piece: 31451 Household Members: Name Age Frances Fletcher 57 Edith Louise Holby 19 *****
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16 Sep 2015 09:17 |
(and Well done you Dea, lol, I see you resorted to Ancestry?, was you frustrated with FMP slowness too, I nearly went 'over' meself, getting a bit too much of it of late!)
Chris :)
(tuts, as if by magic, lol, as below FMP 1911)
Frances Fletcher Head Widow Female Housework 57 1854 Brooklyner U S A Edith Louise Holby Niece Single Female Housework 19 1892 Warley Someset
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16 Sep 2015 09:24 |
Yes - I tend to switch between the two when I get annoyed with one of them ;-)
I don't know how she could be a niece yet though - this is the marriage of 'aunt's' parents:
Marriages Sep 1852 (>99%) Annetts John Worcester 6c 332 Scan available - click to view FREEMAN Helen Worcester 6c 332 Scan available - click to view
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16 Sep 2015 09:42 |
AAAhhhh ! - Here is the connection: 1871:
Name: Alice Pickering Age: 8 Estimated birth year: abt 1863 Relation: Daughter-in-law Gender: Female Where born: Bath, Somerset, England Civil Parish: Freshford Ecclesiastical parish: Freshford Town: Freshford County/Island: Somerset Country: England Registration district: Bradford On Avon Sub-registration district: Bradford South Eastern ED, institution, or vessel: 17 Household schedule number: 68 Piece: 1923 Folio: 20 Page Number: 12 Household Members: Name Age William Fletcher 43 Charlotte Fletcher 37 Charles Fletcher 14 Eliza Fletcher 12 Alice Pickering 8 *** Henry J Pickering 7 Emma Fletcher 7 Henry Fletcher 4 *** Frederick J Fletcher 1 Bessie Fletcher 2 Months Cancel Source Citation
Class: RG10; Piece: 1923; Folio: 20; Page: 12; GSU roll: 830872 Source Information
Ancestry.com. 1871 England Census [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2004.
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