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Agnes Mary White 1866

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PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 25 Mar 2015 07:55

Hi Jude, I spotted that census too.

I have just looked through all the pages.........on page 10 there is a William Mintner age 10 born Boldre. (Possibly reads Mintren on the image)

A bit too much of a coincidence wouldn't you say?

So perhaps Elizabeth left Mary and William in the workhouse. :-(

Researching:
"If I don't see you through the week.........I will see you through the window". :o))

DIZZI

DIZZI Report 25 Mar 2015 08:14

MORNING BOGGLE EYES CENSUS LOOKERS
REMEMBER 1841 PEEPS WERE TOLD IF UNSURE
ROUND AGES UP TO SAY 37 TO 40 YR OLD SO IF
SEARCHING LOOK DOWN A FEW YEARS,
AND ACCENT TRY MINTON IN ACCENTS YOUL
BE SUPRISED XXX

Researching:
FINCH+LOCK+WEAVER+HALES+BROOKINGS+MANSFIELD+HOOK+TITCHENER and STEVEN & ISRAEL WEAVER c1735

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 25 Mar 2015 08:43

Morning Dizzi. :-)

??
Deaths Jun 1862 (>99%)
Mintern William Lymington 2b 320

??
William Mintern in the 1861 England Census
Age:21
Estimated Birth Year:1839
Relation:Ord (Military)
Gender:Male
Where born:Lymington, Hampshire, England
Civil Parish:Vessels
Town:North Atlantic
County/Island:Royal Navy
Country:England
Registration district:Royal Navy
Sub-registration district:Royal Navy
ED, institution, or vessel:Diadem

William Mintern 21

??
Deaths Dec 1875 (>99%)
MINTERN William 35 Lymington 2b 376


Researching:
"If I don't see you through the week.........I will see you through the window". :o))

HeyJudeB4Beatles

HeyJudeB4Beatles Report 25 Mar 2015 18:28

Prickles - I don't believe in coincidences! It has to be her surely...I spotted it a few days ago when I couldn't sleep and was pottering around on the Ipad in bed...but I don't know how to copy and paste so left it and then forgot about it!

Poor so and so spent much of her younger years in a poor house didn't she?

So now we await Ernest's birth certificate :-)

Jude

Researching:
Cording/Llewellyn/Hyde/Homer/Pattie/Irvine/Hunt/Mead

DIZZI

DIZZI Report 25 Mar 2015 18:42

WILLIAM ON CENSUS

ROYAL NAVY
THATS WHY HES SO HARD TO FOLLOW,

Researching:
FINCH+LOCK+WEAVER+HALES+BROOKINGS+MANSFIELD+HOOK+TITCHENER and STEVEN & ISRAEL WEAVER c1735

DIZZI

DIZZI Report 25 Mar 2015 19:02

INFO ON 1861 NOT WILLIE BUT SHIP
1861 census RG9 Piece 4439 Folio 168 Page 10
at sea on vessel Diadem

Charles Budden Lg. Seaman single age 25 & 10 months Lymington Hants

I looked at the enumeration page, and it gives the following information:
Royal Navy ship "The Diadem" - 32 guns - Captain - James H Cockburn Esq.
At sea Lat. N 48.29 Long. W 6.40 North Atlantic

Researching:
FINCH+LOCK+WEAVER+HALES+BROOKINGS+MANSFIELD+HOOK+TITCHENER and STEVEN & ISRAEL WEAVER c1735

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 25 Mar 2015 19:05

Ernest's birth certificate is due to arrive in the next day or two.

I will bet you my last rolo it's complicated!! :-|

A huge thank you to Jude, Gritty, Dea and Mary for all your contributions on this thread.

This has been the most frustrating, infuriating, complicated, enjoyable and rewarding search I think I have ever done. :-D

None of it was a simple case of looking up an obvious record......every record took time to search and I am very grateful.

I appreciate the time you have all spent searching.

Prickles. xxxx

Researching:
"If I don't see you through the week.........I will see you through the window". :o))

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 25 Mar 2015 19:07

Sorry Dizzi but...........who is Charles Budden??

Researching:
"If I don't see you through the week.........I will see you through the window". :o))

DIZZI

DIZZI Report 25 Mar 2015 19:25

CURIOS FOX


MINTERN
Maria Mintern baptised 10th May 1835 at St John Boldre. Parents Thomas and Elizabeth.
Elizabeth and Maria are in Lymington Workhouse on the 1841 census.
Elizabeth remarries as a widow in 1847
Does anyone know what happened to Thomas ?
Burial not found in any village in the Lymington registration district.

Researching:
FINCH+LOCK+WEAVER+HALES+BROOKINGS+MANSFIELD+HOOK+TITCHENER and STEVEN & ISRAEL WEAVER c1735

HeyJudeB4Beatles

HeyJudeB4Beatles Report 25 Mar 2015 19:37

Prickles - a pleasure :-)

It's what being a GR "Family" is all about......

Jude

Researching:
Cording/Llewellyn/Hyde/Homer/Pattie/Irvine/Hunt/Mead

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 25 Mar 2015 19:56

Hi Dizzi

Marg lives in Australia........so maybe she might be able to find out what happened to Thomas Mintern.

:-)

Researching:
"If I don't see you through the week.........I will see you through the window". :o))

DIZZI

DIZZI Report 25 Mar 2015 20:12

WAS EXAMPLE FOR SHIP WITH WILLIAM ON

Researching:
FINCH+LOCK+WEAVER+HALES+BROOKINGS+MANSFIELD+HOOK+TITCHENER and STEVEN & ISRAEL WEAVER c1735

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 25 Mar 2015 20:35

Ok Dizzi, I get you now.

Thank you. x

Researching:
"If I don't see you through the week.........I will see you through the window". :o))

Dea

Dea Report 26 Mar 2015 10:31

I am sure that we have all enjoyed it thus far Prickles. - I can't wait for that cert to arrive, as you say, I am sure it will get even more complicated.

I can't say that I have managed to post very much but it has been fun searching to see what I could find.

It is SO nice to have something challenging to 'get your teeth into' ;-) :-D

Dea Xxx

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 26 Mar 2015 11:10

I lost all my teeth AND hair doing this one Dea.

:-D :-D

Researching:
"If I don't see you through the week.........I will see you through the window". :o))

Mary

Mary Report 26 Mar 2015 11:35

Forgive me for being thick here,but was there a birth record for Agnes Mary White??

Maryb.

Researching:
Farrar, Jessop, Ward, Booth, Wragg, Walsh.

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 26 Mar 2015 11:50

No Mary there isn't. :-(

Researching:
"If I don't see you through the week.........I will see you through the window". :o))

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 26 Mar 2015 16:37

It has arrived!!! .....and better still...No confusion.

It has exactly the same details as Reginald Norris White's birth certificate.

A recap...

Reginald appears as "Reggie" Nephew of Mary Ann and Stephen Munden on the 1911 census.
On the 1891....Mary and Stephen claim he is their Son.

Ernest...appears as Ernesta White "Neice" with Agnes Mary and James Carpenter on the 1891 census.

James and Agnes Mary Carpenter emigrated to Townsville, Queensland, Australia in 1900. Ernest appears as their Son on the passengers list.

On Reginald's military record...he states his Next Of Kin is younger Brother Ernest White of Townsville, Queensland, Australia.

Reginald's birth certificate details.....

03/07/1883

No Father named.

Mother: Annie Sarah White of Milford. Domestic Servant
Residence: Union Workhouse Lymington

Ernest's birth certificate details...

08/08/1888

No Father named.

Mother: Annie Sarah White...Domestic Servant of Milford, Lymington.
Residence: Union Workhouse Lymington.

I can only assume that Annie Sarah White is the Anne Whitt who appears with Agnes on the 1871 census in the Lymington Union Workhouse.

(Annoying that it didn't mention Annie's age on either record)

??

Annie White in the 1881 England Census
Name:Annie White
Age:18
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1863
Relationship to Head:Servant
Gender:Female
Where born:Lymington, Hampshire, England
Civil Parish:Croydon
County/Island:Surrey
Country:England
Street address:68 Wellesley Rd
Occupation:Genl Servt
Registration district:Croydon
Sub registration district:Croydon

Amelia P. Klitz 32
Fanny Klitz 25
Theresa Watson 24
Annie White 18

??

(This one looks good)

Annie White in the 1891 England Census
Name:Annie White
Age:25
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1866
Relation:Servant (Employee)
Gender:Female
Where born:Lymington, Hampshire, England
Civil Parish:Milford
Ecclesiastical parish:All Saints
Town:Milford
County/Island:Hampshire
Country:England
Registration district:Lymington

Augusta M G Kenyon 62
Caroline W Kenyon 29
Perryrim D Kenyon 28
Lylie M Kenyon 24
Arthur A N Kenyon 22
Sarah Plowman 29
Kate Oliver 23
Annie White 25

??

Deaths Sep 1895 (>99%)
WHITE Annie Sarah 29 Portsea 2b 273

Researching:
"If I don't see you through the week.........I will see you through the window". :o))

HeyJudeB4Beatles

HeyJudeB4Beatles Report 26 Mar 2015 19:03

So if the death is correct, perhaps Agnes and James "adopted" Ernest (he would have been only 7 when his mother died)

It goes no way to proving/disproving the "royal Blood" backtheme :-)

And Prickles/Dea..."I lost all my teeth AND hair doing this one Dea.



This conjures up images of Wayne Rooney which are not pretty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Jude

Researching:
Cording/Llewellyn/Hyde/Homer/Pattie/Irvine/Hunt/Mead

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 28 Mar 2015 09:01

Jude ;-)

You might like to take a look at this site Marg........

http://www.workhouses.org.uk/Lymington/

Researching:
"If I don't see you through the week.........I will see you through the window". :o))

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