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"Curiouser and curiouser" as said by Alice :-S

I don't think I have ever been so confused in my entire life!

:-D

Sorry- If I've made it worse!! I'll try and have a read of the whole thread tomorrow, and maybe make a useful contribution?! :D

This requires a nice calming bottle of wine and an open mind! There are two many coincidences for these not to be bits of the jigsaw....it's just making the round bits fit round bits :-)

Jude

Gritty.........you haven't made it worse at all.

We are both on the same wavelength and I really appreciate your contribution.

A very big thank you to you for your time.

Prickles. x

Off to get bladdered!

:-D

Pass the wine Jude.

;-)

No - get your own....it's all mine!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :-P

Seriously the repetitions of White and Mintern have got to be significant. It's just weaving your way through it!

Jude

1861Bealieu D7>21
Mary Ann Scott lodger born @ 1837 Boldre view original and it says she is the wife of James Scott a sailor.
She is at the home of Stephen Munden and his parents.

1861 Hong kong
James Scott married born Boldre 1836

Maryb.

Hi Mary...........I found that census earlier.

I thought perhaps Mary Ann Mintern.......might appear as Mary Ann Scott in the 1851 census.

And then I came across that 1861 census......... that is when I needed to lie down in a dark room. :-S :

Thank you for posting Mary. x

This is the 1861 census........

1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Name:Mary A Scott
Age:24
Estimated Birth Year:1837
Relation:Lodger
Gender:Female
Where born:Boldre, Hampshire, England
Civil Parish:Beaulieu
Ecclesiastical parish:Beaulieu
County/Island:Hampshire
Country:England
Registration district:New Forest
Sub-registration district:Fawley

Samuel Munden 57
Lucy Munden 53
Stephen Munden 22 <<<< Who Mary Ann is with in 1881
James Munden 16
Lucy Munden 15
Susanna Munden 12
Emma Munden 10
Mary A Scott Lodger Married Female 24 1837 Wife Of James Scott Sailor Boldre, Hampshire

:-S :-S

James Scott in the 1861 England Census
Name:James Scott
Age:25
Estimated Birth Year:1836
Relation:Ab (Seaman)
Gender:Male
Where born:Leamington, Hampshire, England (Possibly Lymington)
Civil Parish:Vessels
Town:Victoria Harbour Hong Kong
County/Island:Royal Navy
Country:England
ED, institution, or vessel: Algerine

James Scott 25 AB Married

I am not seeing an appropriate marriage for a James Scott to Mary Ann.

I wonder if James Scott is Mary Ann's step brother who appears in the 1851 census.

This is like trying to fit a square peg in a round hole! :-| :-D

It has only taken me almost 4 hrs...... :-D but I am of the opinion now that the Mary Ann Scott who appears with the Munden's in 1861, is possibly a Red Herring and purely coincidental.

??

1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Bucklershard, Beaulieu, New Forest, Hampshire, England

William Corbyn Head - Male 73 1798 - Hampshire, England
Anne Corbyn Wife - Female 70 1801 - Hampshire, England
Mary A Scott Daughter - Female 34 1837 - Hampshire, England (Married)
Annie Scott Granddaughter - Female 6 1865 - Hampshire, England

(Other census records show that the surname is "Corbin")

No marriage though for a James Scott to a Mary Ann Corbin :-P

I will be back >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

J/F/M 1860 New forest
James Scott to Marianne Corbin V2b P735

Maryb.

Mary I love you.

I mean I really, really love you!!! :-D

You are a star.

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The only census I am missing is......

Mary Ann Mintern in 1851.

Elizabeth Scott (Mintern) lived to the ripe old age of 91.

Elizabeth Scott in the 1891 England Census

Name:Elizabeth Scott
Age:87
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1804
Relation:Head
Gender:Female
Where born: Beaulieu Rails, Hampshire, England
Civil Parish:Boldre
Ecclesiastical parish:Boldre
Town:Pilley
County/Island:Hampshire
Country:England
Registration district:Lymington

Household Members:

Elizabeth Scott 87 (Widow)
Vincent Scott 13 (Grandson) Pilley Hampshire


Deaths Jun 1896 (>99%)
SCOTT Elizabeth 91 Lymington 2b 379


She is also a widow in 1881.......

Elizabeth Scott in the 1881 England Census
Name:Elizabeth Scott
Age:76
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1805
Relationship to Head:Head
Gender:Female
Where born:Boldre, Hampshire, England
Civil Parish:Boldre
County/Island:Hampshire
Country:England
Street address: Rossen Gutter
Marital Status:
Windower (Widower)
Occupation:No Occupation
Registration district:Lymington
Sub registration district:Lymington

Household Members:

Elizabeth Scott 76
Dorcus Clark 20 (Lodger)


Name:James Scott
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1793
Registration Year:1873
Registration Quarter:Oct-Nov-Dec
Age at Death: 80
Registration district:Lymington
Inferred County:Hampshire
Volume:2b
Page:344

Hello Marg

As you can see, this thread has become even more confusing.

I got side-tracked by the Mary Ann Scott who appears with the Munden's in the 1861 census.

I am of the opinion now that the Mary Ann Scott who appears with the Munden's in 1861, is a Red Herring and purely coincidental. I think we can happily rule her out now.

Even more coincidental.......because Mary Ann Mintern's mother remarried a James Scott!

So what we have is.........

Mary Ann Mintern born abt 1837.......with Mother Elizabeth on the 1841 census.

There is no baptism that I can see for Mary.......however, there is a baptism for Sister Maria and if they had the same Father.......He is Thomas Mintern.

Mother Elizabeth Mintern born abt 1805 Boldre, Hampshire......remarried James Scott in Lymington 1847.

1824 Possible marriage Thomas Mintern to Elizabeth Kernish

I can't find Mary Ann Mintern on the 1851 census.

1859.......Mary Ann Mintern marries George White.

1861......Mary Ann White with husband George in Lymington.

(George possibly dies in 1861)

1871.......Mary is in the Lymington Union Workhouse.

1881.......Mary is living as wife to Stephen Warn Munden.

Amen! :-D

This is the link to the GRO...."General Registers Office" if you want to purchase certificates online..........

http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/

You will be asked if you know the GRO reference?

The GRO reference is the Volume (Vol) and Page (Pg) numbers.

Prickles. x

Maria Mintern married in 1867.........


Marriages Mar 1867 (>99%)
GATES Charles Lymington 2b 749 .....(Vol 2b Pg 749)
MINTERN Maria Lymington 2b 749

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Are Maria and Mary Ann on 1841 census with mum Elizabeth??
Could you please post 1841 census.

Has a marriage for Thomas and Elizabeth been found,there was a transportation to Australia for a Thomas Mintern.Was it the same guy??

Maryb

Edit got them now
1841 lymington workhouse
Elizabeth Minkon 30
John Minton 12
Maria 6
Mary Ann Winton 4
Elizabeth Winton 2
William Winton 1

No wonder I couldn't find them!!

Mary- this was the 1841 posted

1841
Lymington, Hampshire
Name of Institution: Lymington Union
Archive reference HO107
Piece number 393
Book number 7
Folio number 4
Page number 4

Elizabeth Mintern 30
John Mintern 12
Maria Mintern 6
Mary Ann Mintern 4

all born in county
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