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Sylann

Sylann Report 1 Feb 2015 19:08

Please read my first entry

Pam

Pam Report 1 Feb 2015 21:25



Soldiers died in the Great War 1914-1919 Transcription

First name(s)
SAM

Last name
HOWARTH

Service number
29843

Rank
GUNNER

Regiment
Royal Horse Artillery and Royal Field Artillery

Battalion
-

Birth place
MANCHESTER, LANCS

Residence
-

Enlistment place
PRESTON, LANCS

Death year
1915

Death day
14

Death month
7

Cause of death
Killed in action

Death place
Gallipoli

Theatre of war
Balkan Theatre

Supplementary Notes
-

Category
Military, armed forces & conflict

Record collection
First World War

Collections from
Great Britain

Pam

Pam Report 1 Feb 2015 21:28

From CWGC website:

HOWARTH, SAMUEL

Rank:Gunner
Service No:29843
Date of Death:14/07/1915
Regiment/Service:Royal Field Artillery 29th Div. Ammunition Col. Grave Reference:D. 51.
Cemetery:LANCASHIRE LANDING CEMETERY
Additional Information:Son of Mr. and Mrs. A. Howarth, of Eccles, Manchester; husband of Maggie Matthews (formerly Howarth), of 13, Jones St., Bloom St., Salford, Manchester. Served in the South African Campaign.

Pam

Pam Report 1 Feb 2015 22:18


From CWGC website:

Lancashire Landing Cemetery:

Country:Turkey (including Gallipoli)
)Identified Casualties:1102

Historical Information

The eight month campaign in Gallipoli was fought by Commonwealth and French forces in an attempt to force Turkey out of the war, to relieve the deadlock of the Western Front in France and Belgium, and to open a supply route to Russia through the Dardanelles and the Black Sea.

The Allies landed on the peninsula on 25-26 April 1915; the 29th Division at Cape Helles in the south and the Australian and New Zealand Corps north of Gaba Tepe on the west coast, an area soon known as Anzac.

At Helles, the 29th Division landed troops at 'S,' 'V,' 'W,' 'X' and 'Y' Beaches, five small coves at or near the southern end of the peninsula. The landing at 'Y' Beach (Gurkha Bluffs) was carried out by the 1st King's Own Scottish Borderers and the Plymouth Battalion of the Royal Naval Division, but these troops were forced to re-embark on the following day. The 2nd Royal Fusiliers landed at 'X' Beach, followed by the rest of the 87th Brigade. Under very severe fire, the 1st Lancashire Fusiliers landed on 'W' Beach and cut their way through wire entanglements and trenches to the edge of the cliff. They and the other battalions of the 88th Brigade established themselves on the hills of Tekke Burnu and Helles Burnu. The beach became known as Lancashire Landing.

The greater part of the cemetery (Rows A to J and part of Row L) was made between the landing in April 1915 and the evacuation of the peninsula in January 1916. Row I contains the graves of over 80 men of the 1st Lancashire Fusiliers who died in the first two days following the landing. The 97 graves in Row K and graves 31 to 83 in Row L were brought in after the Armistice from the following Aegean islands cemeteries:-

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 2 Feb 2015 08:13

http://salfordwarmemorials.proboards.com/thread/908/st-marys-eccles?page=5

(also on above, with an Ernest (Brother, Photo) from google search)


HOWARTH, ERNEST

Rank: Rifleman Service No: B/1823 Date of Death: 30/07/1915 Regiment/Service: Rifle Brigade 7th Bn. Panel Reference: Panel 46 - 48 and 50. Memorial: YPRES (MENIN GATE) MEMORIAL

http://www.cwgc.org/find-war-dead.aspx

Chris :)

(possibly Brothers below)

1891 (Find My Past)
Alfred Howarth Head Married Male 38 1853 Carter Eccles, Lancashire, England
Ann Howarth Wife Married Female 34 1857 - Eccleshall, Staffordshire, England
Saml Howarth Son Single Male 9 1882 Scholar Eccles, Lancashire, England
William Howarth Son Single Male 6 1885 Scholar Eccles, Lancashire, England
Ernest Howarth Son Single Male 1 1890 Scholar Eccles, Lancashire, England
Elizabeth Wilson - Widow Female 75 1816 - Manchester, Lancashire, England
Street Clegg Street
Town Eccles
Parish Barton upon Irwell
City Eccles
County Lancashire
Registration district Barton upon Irwell
Archive reference RG12
Piece number 3152
Folio 66
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Potty

Potty Report 2 Feb 2015 13:00

Does Norah ring a bell?


Name:Sam Howarth
Age in 1911:27
Estimated birth year:abt 1884
Relation to Head:Head
Gender:Male
Birth Place:Eccles, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish:Eccles
County/Island:Lancashire
Country:England
Street address:1 Bentclife St Eccles
Marital Status:Married
Occupation:Mechanics Labourer
Registration district:Barton upon Irwell
Registration District Number:463

Sam Howarth 27
Maggie Howarth 21
Nora Howarth 7/12

Potty

Potty Report 2 Feb 2015 13:20

If that CWGC record is for your Sam, his widow married a Herbert Matthews:

HOWARTH Margaret MATTHEWS Herbert J Salford Register Office or Registrar Attended Salford SAL/132/149

Sylann

Sylann Report 2 Feb 2015 14:27

Thank you for your help

I'll have to go into this I was hoping The forces record would have his enlisting forms my own granddad was killed in WW1 and the document I saw for him had his wife and children on.

With this family I found out that samuel Howarth 1883 married poss 1910 had 2/3 children Nora 1910? Emily 1912 & Sam 1914, Sam junior was killed in WW1 his wfe Maggie nee Byrne remarried,
When Sam junior married in 1939 he put his father down as Ernest Howarth but asking about it I found Ernest was his step dad.
Bit complicated !!

Sylann

Sylann Report 2 Feb 2015 14:51

Yes the soldiers are mine, pitty their wasn't a photo of Sam At least it lets me know that his wife couldn't have married her brother in law Ernest if he was killed also.
So the marriage certificate is still a mystery as to who Ernest is.

It does look as though the marriage of Margaret Howarth To Herbert Matthews is right as Margaret Matthews is on the army documents

Thank you