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21 Jan 2015 13:05 |
I tried putting this on the other day but there were obviously problems and now the thread's disappeared, so apologies if you've seen this before.
I'm looking for the arrival in America of David Sims and his family. He was born in Merthyr Tydfil, Wales, in 1860. He married Sarah Ann Evans and they had a daughter, Mary Ann, who was born in 1879. David received naturalisation in 1888 and they were still in Merthyr Tydfil at the time of the 1881 census. There were other children who probably went with them. I know that Mary Ann married in the U.S.A. in 1897. I also know David and Sarah are buried in Orchard Street Cemetery, Dover. New Jersey.
I'd be grateful if anyone could find the date they travelled or arrived in America.
Annie
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21 Jan 2015 13:17 |
1881 for ref.
1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 8, Bell Row, Merthyr Tydfil, Glamorganshire, Wales
Learn more Print transcription View image Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Wm Sims Head Married Male 50 1831 Colly Pumpg Eng Tender Llansamlet, Glamorgan, Wales Transcription Catherine Sims Wife Married Female 46 1835 - Glamorgan, Wales Transcription Mary A Williams Daughter Married Female 29 1852 - Glamorgan, Wales Transcription >>David Sims Son Married Male 21 1860 Loco Fireman Merthyr Tydfil, Glamorgan, Wales Transcription Cath Sims Daughter Single Female 18 1863 Labourer Top Of Colliery Merthyr Tydfil, Glamorgan, Wales Transcription Margt Sims Daughter Single Female 16 1865 Labourer Brick Yard Merthyr Tydfil, Glamorgan, Wales Transcription Eliz Sims Daughter Single Female 13 1868 Scholar Merthyr Tydfil, Glamorgan, Wales Transcription William Sims Son Single Male 11 1870 Scholar Merthyr Tydfil, Glamorgan, Wales Transcription John Sims Son Single Male 9 1872 Scholar Merthyr Tydfil, Glamorgan, Wales Transcription Gwen Sims Daughter Single Female 6 1875 Scholar Merthyr Tydfil, Glamorgan, Wales Transcription Thos Williams Grand Son Single Male 10 1871 Scholar Merthyr Tydfil, Glamorgan, Wales Transcription Wm Williams Grand Son Single Male 3 1878 - United States Transcription >>>Sarah Ann Sims Daughter In Law Married Female 22 1859 - Merthyr Tydfil, Glamorgan, Wales Transcription >>Mary Ann Sims Grand Daughter Single Female 2 1879 - -
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21 Jan 2015 13:20 |
This is Sarah with children: Mary, Bessy and Sarah
New York, Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
Name:Sarah A Sims
Arrival Date:31 Dec 1883
Birth Date:abt 1860
Age:23
Gender:Female
Ethnicity/ Nationality:English
Place of Origin:England
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England Destination:New Jersey
Port of Arrival:New York, New York
Ship Name:City of Montreal
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21 Jan 2015 13:23 |
Fantastic! Just what I was looking for. Thanks, both.
Annie
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21 Jan 2015 13:25 |
Is this them? He was an iron ore miner and they both emigrated in 1882.
1900 US Census Transcription Print transcription View image Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Birth place David Sims Self Married Male 40 1860 Wales Transcription Sarah Sims Wife Married Female 44 1856 Wales Transcription William Sims Son Single Male 17 1883 New Jersey Transcription Bessie Sims Daughter Single Female 14 1886 New Jersey Transcription Kate Sims Daughter Single Female 13 1887 New Jersey Transcription Maggie Sims Daughter Single Female 10 1890 New Jersey Transcription John Sims Son Single Male 5 1895 New Jersey Transcription Gwen Sims Daughter Single Female 4 1896 New Jersey Transcription Rachel Sims Daughter Single Female 0 1900 New Jersey
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21 Jan 2015 14:59 |
Yes, I've just checked the names and it's them. They had ten children in all. Three were born in Merthyr so the rest must have been born after they emigrated. There were two named Bessie then. The first Bessie was born in Merthyr in 1881 and died in 1885. It was common in these parts to name a subsequent child after one who had died. I've got a snippet that says the Bessie born in 1886 married Joseph Hughes so that must have been in America. This is a real bonus. Thank you so much.
Annie
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21 Jan 2015 15:05 |
Your first Bess* died in 1884
New Jersey, Deaths and Burials Index, 1798-1971
Name:Bessey Sims
Birth Date:abt 1882
Birth Place:England
Death Date:21 Jan 1884
Death Place:Rockaway, Morris, New Jersey
Death Age:2 years 7 months
Race:White
Gender:Female
Father Birth Place: Wales
Mother Birth Place: Wales
FHL Film Number:589836
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21 Jan 2015 15:08 |
1910 United States Federal Census
Name:Bessie Hughes
Age in 1910:24
Birth Year:abt 1886
Birthplace:New Jersey
Home in 1910:Newark Ward 5, Essex, New Jersey
Race:White
Gender:Female
Relation to Head of House:Wife
Marital Status:Married
Spouse's Name:Joseph Hughes
Father's Birthplace:Wales
Mother's Birthplace:Wales
Household Members:
Joseph Hughes 25 Bessie Hughes 24 Sarah A Hughes 3
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21 Jan 2015 15:09 |
U.S., Find A Grave Index, 1600s-Current
Name: Bessie Hughes [Bessie Sims]
Birth Date:24 Jan 1886
Birth Place:Rockaway, Morris County, New Jersey, USA
Death Date:15 Jul 1959
Death Place:Newark, Essex County, New Jersey, USA
Cemetery:Orchard Street Cemetery
Burial or Cremation Place:Dover, Morris County, New Jersey, USA
Has Bio?:N
Spouse: Joseph Hughes
Mother: Sarah Ann Sims
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Kuros
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21 Jan 2015 15:18 |
Thanks for that, Gins. Poor little thing. The whole family had loads of children. David was one of ten children and his father was one of nine children. I thought there was another son, David, born in 1892 in America but I must have been wrong because he's not on the census. My next task will be a tour of the cemeteries in Merthyr Tydfil.
Annie
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21 Jan 2015 15:27 |
Wow, you're fast! She did marry Joseph Hughes then.I wasn't at all sure about that. Thanks, Gins.
Annie
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21 Jan 2015 16:32 |
This looks like Margaret
1930 United States Federal Census
Name:Margaret Nieman
Birth Year:abt 1891
Gender:Female
Race:White
Birthplace:New Jersey
Marital Status:Married
Relation to Head of House:Wife
Homemaker?:Yes
Home in 1930:Newark, Essex, New Jersey
Street address:Walnut Street
Ward of City:10th
Block:1180
House Number in Cities or Towns:281
Dwelling Number:49
Family Number:107
Age at First Marriage:36
Attended School:No
Able to Read and Write:Yes
Father's Birthplace: Wales
Mother's Birthplace: Wales
Household Members:
Name
Age
Harry Nieman 38 Margaret Nieman 39 -----------------------------------------------------------
U.S., Find A Grave Index, 1600s-Current
Name: Margaret Nieman [Margaret Sims]
Birth Date:29 Jan 1891
Birth Place:New Jersey, USA
Death Date:24 Feb 1953
Death Place:New Jersey, USA
Cemetery:Orchard Street Cemetery
Burial or Cremation Place:Dover, Morris County, New Jersey, USA
Has Bio?:N
Mother: Sarah Ann Sims
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21 Jan 2015 16:37 |
Heres Rachel
1930 United States Federal Census
Name:Rachel Frame
Birth Year:abt 1900
Gender:Female
Race:White
Birthplace:New Jersey
Marital Status:Married
Relation to Head of House:Wife
Homemaker?:Yes
Home in 1930:Newark, Essex, New Jersey
Street address:Walnut Street
Ward of City:10th
Block:1180
House Number in Cities or Towns:281
Dwelling Number:49
Family Number:108
Age at First Marriage:21
Attended School:No
Able to Read and Write:Yes
Father's Birthplace:Wales
Mother's Birthplace:Wales
Able to Speak English:Yes
Name
Age
John E Frame 30 Rachel Frame 30 Margaret Frame 6 -------------------------------------------------------
California, Death Index, 1940-1997
Name: Rachel S Frame [Rachel S Sims]
Social Security #:155240531
Gender:Female
Birth Date:11 Dec 1899
Birth Place:New Jersey
Death Date:27 Aug 1983
Death Place:Sacramento
Mother's Maiden Name: Evans
Father's Surname: Sims
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21 Jan 2015 16:44 |
A tree on Ancestry lists 10 children of David & Sarah Ann including David born 1892. Although perhaps it's your tree?
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21 Jan 2015 17:58 |
This may be your David?
New Jersey, Deaths and Burials Index, 1798-1971
Name:David Sims
Birth Date:abt 1892
Birth Place:United States
Death Date:27 Jul 1896
Death Place:Rockaway, Morris, New Jersey
Death Age:4 years
Gender:Male
Father Birth Place: England
Mother Birth Place: England
FHL Film Number:589806
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Kuros
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21 Jan 2015 18:02 |
You have been working hard! I popped to the shops so I've only just seen these last ones. Thanks, Gins, I'll look at them now.
Annie
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21 Jan 2015 18:04 |
Thanks, Margee, I'll look at that now. I found a David but can't find him attached to the family anywhere else. I don't have Ancestry World Wide because I've never needed it - until now!
Annie
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21 Jan 2015 18:53 |
Just seen that, Gins. So that's what happened to David.
Annie
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22 Jan 2015 16:45 |
For Gins. 1871
NAME: Richard Evans AGE: 49 ESTIMATED BIRTH YEAR: abt 1822 RELATION: Head SPOUSE'S NAME: Elizabeth Evans GENDER: Male WHERE BORN: Merthyr, Glamorganshire, Wales CIVIL PARISH: Merthyr Tydfil ECCLESIASTICAL PARISH: Pentrebach TOWN: Merthyr Tydfil COUNTY/ISLAND: Glamorgan COUNTRY: Wales REGISTRATION DISTRICT: Merthyr Tydfil SUB-REGISTRATION DISTRICT: Lower Merthyr Tydfil ED, INSTITUTION, OR VESSEL: 11 HOUSEHOLD SCHEDULE NUMBER: 76 PIECE: 5392 FOLIO: 35 PAGE NUMBER: 21 HOUSEHOLD MEMBERS: NAME AGE Richard Evans 49 Elizabeth Evans 40 Mary Evans 21 Margaret Evans 19 Susan Evans 17 Sarah Ann Evans 15 Richard Evans 14 Rea Evans 11 Nathaniel Evans 6 Jessie Evans 4 Elizabeth J Evans 5 Months Margaret Lovett 71 Anne Lovett 47
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22 Jan 2015 16:59 |
I was looking for Sims!!!
Name:Richard Evans
Birth Date:1822
Birth Place:Merthyr Tydfil, Wales
Death Date:30 Jan 1890
Death Place: Rockaway, Morris County, New Jersey, USA
Cemetery:Orchard Street Cemetery
Burial or Cremation Place: Dover, Morris County, New Jersey, USA
Has Bio?:N
Spouse: Elizabeth Evans Evans Elizabeth
Children: Sarah Ann Sims Margaret Williams Elizabeth Jane Williams Rachel Trevena
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