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Effie

Effie Report 23 Dec 2014 01:16

I would appreciate if you could possibly help me to find out about the Puncher family as I seem to be related to them but cannot find out if these people are related to me Cyril F Puncher b.1903 Poplar London he married Clarice E Leighton b. c 1904 London or Essex they were married O/N/D 1934 Wandsworth London, Cyril's father was William Charles Puncher b.14/11/1874 Poplar London, he married Elizabeth Emma Bruce b.1876 Poplar London, they were married J/F/M 1901 Hackney London. I also believe that Walter Charles Puncher's father was James John Puncher b. c.1842 London and he married Sarah M Staples b.c 1843 London and they were married J/F/M 1867 Shoreditch London. I have been trying to find out about this family for a few weeks but do not seem to get anywhere so please could you help me if possible.
Thank you
Regards
Effie Lewis (nee Ott)

jax

jax Report 23 Dec 2014 02:39

You seem to know a lot about them so what is it you want to know?

Do you have access to Ancestry ? if so there is a tree on there with this family

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 23 Dec 2014 05:34

I am not sure where you are wanting to go with this enquiry You seem to have done some research so what exactly are you looking for now please? :-)

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 23 Dec 2014 05:38

1911 census

30 Driffield Road Roman Road Bow E, Poplar Borough, London, England

Walter C Puncher Head Married Male 37 1874 Bow London Card Board Box Manufactures

Elizabeth E Puncher Wife Married Female 35 1876 Poplar London -

Leonard C Puncher Son - Male 9 1902 South Hackney London -

Cyril F Puncher Son - Male 8 1903 Bow London -

Harold A Puncher Son - Male 5 1906 Bow London -

Married 10 years 3 children born

Note father is Walter not William

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 23 Dec 2014 05:42

1901 census
12, Rockmead Road, Hackney, London, England

Walter C Puncher Head Married Male 27 1874 Fancy Box Maker Bow, Middlesex, England

Elizabeth E Puncher Wife - Female 25 1876 - Cubitt Town, London, England

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 23 Dec 2014 05:45

1891 census
Driffield Road, Bow or Stratford Le Bow, Poplar, London, England

James J Puncher Head Married Male 44 1847 Card Box Cutter Old Ford, Middlesex, England

Sarah M Puncher Wife Married Female 43 1848 - Old Ford, Middlesex, England

James J Puncher Son Single Male 24 1867 Card Factory Clerk Old Ford, Middlesex, England

Julia M Puncher Daughter Single Female 19 1872 Card Factory Maker Old Ford, Middlesex, England

Walter C Puncher Son Single Male 17 1874 Card Factory Cutter Old Ford, Middlesex, England

Albert Puncher Son - Male 15 1876 Errand Boy Old Ford, Middlesex, England

Edwin Puncher Son - Male 11 1880 Scholar Old Ford, Middlesex, England

Horace Puncher Son - Male 6 1885 Scholar Old Ford, Middlesex, England

Alfred Puncher Son - Male 4 1887 Scholar Old Ford, Middlesex, England

John F Puncher Son - Male 0 1891 - Old Ford, Middlesex, England

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 23 Dec 2014 05:46

Death

First name(s) WALTER C
Last name PUNCHER
Gender Male
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year 1874
Age 72
Death quarter 1
Death year 1946
District MALDON
County Essex
Volume 4A
Page 1026

Gritty

Gritty Report 23 Dec 2014 06:51

Not sure what info you're after? Which Puncher family are you trying to link them to?

1881

James J Punchard Head Married Male 34 1847 Fancy Box Maker (Paper) Buckinghamshire,
Sarah Punchard Wife Married Female 33 1848 Wife Of Fancy Box Maker (Paper) City of London, Middlesex,
James J Jnr Punchard Son Single Male 14 1867 Clerk City of London, Middlesex,
Julia M Punchard Daughter Single Female 10 1871 Scholar City of London, Middlesex,
Walter C Punchard Son Single Male 7 1874 Scholar City of London, Middlesex,
Albert W Punchard Son Single Male 5 1876 Scholar City of London, Middlesex,
Edwin J Punchard Son Single Male 3 1878 Scholar City of London, Middlesex,
Maude A Punchard Daughter Single Female 0 1881 - City of London, Middlesex, England
Caroline Davis Lodger Single Female 33 1848 Machinist City of London, Middlesex,

House number 23
Street Driffield Road
Parish Bow Aka St Mary Stratford-Le-Bow
County London, Middlesex
Country England
Registration district Poplar
Archive reference RG11
Piece number 491
Folio 40
Page 3
Record set 1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census

Gritty

Gritty Report 23 Dec 2014 06:55

1871:

James Puncher Head - Male 24 1847 - London, Middlesex, England
Sarah Puncher Wife - Female 23 1848 - Middlesex, England
Transcription
James T Puncher Son - Male 4 1867 - Middlesex, England
Sarah E Puncher Daughter - Female 2 1869 - Middlesex,
Julia M Puncher Daughter - Female 0 1871 - Middlesex, England
Catherine Puncher Sister - Female 13 1858 - Middlesex, England

Street Driffield Road
Parish St Mary
County London, Middlesex
Country England
Registration district Poplar
Archive reference RG10
Piece number 577
Folio 102
Page 3
Record set 1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census

Gritty

Gritty Report 23 Dec 2014 07:07

Based on his sister Catherine listed on the 1871 this looks like her and family in 1861:

Name: William Puncher
Age: 45
Estimated Birth Year: 1816
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Maria Puncher
Gender: Male
Where born: Devon, England
Civil Parish: St Sepulchre
Town: Middlesex
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Registration district: Holborn
Sub-registration district: Saffron Hill
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Household schedule number: 242
Piece: 188
Folio: 77
Page Number: 38
Household Members:
Name Age
William Puncher 45
Maria Puncher 43
Joseph Puncher 10
Sarah Puncher 8
Julia Puncher 5
Catherine Puncher 2

Gritty

Gritty Report 23 Dec 2014 07:10

And James with his family in 1851:

Name: William Buncher
[William Puncher]
Age: 36
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1815
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Maria Buncher
Gender: Male
Where born: Shobrook, Devon, England
[Shobrooke,Devon,England]
Civil Parish: St Luke Old Street
Ecclesiastical parish: St Luke
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Registration district: St Luke
Sub-registration district: Finsbury
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 120
Piece: 1523
Folio: 279
Page Number: 28
William Buncher 36 Devon
Maria Buncher 34 Salisbury, Wiltshire
William Buncher 12 Fordingbridge, Hampshire, England
James Buncher 4 Middlesex, St Lukes
Joseph Buncher 10 Mo Cripplegate, London

Gritty

Gritty Report 23 Dec 2014 07:22

Family in 1841:

Name: Maria Punchard
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1816
Gender: Female
Civil Parish: Portsea Town
Hundred: Portsmouth Borough
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England
Registration district: Portsea Island
Sub-registration district: Landport and Southern
Piece: 414
Book: 1
Folio: 53
Page Number: 29
Household Members:
Name Age
William Punchard 25
Maria Punchard 25
William Punchard 3
John Punchard 1

Based on eldest son (William) being born Hampshire c1838/9 this could be marriage of parents:

First name(s) WILLIAM
Last name PUNCHARD
Marriage year 1837
Marriage day 31
Marriage month Jul
Place LYMINGTON
Groom's first name William
Groom's last name Punchard
Bride's first name Maria
Bride's last name Leaver
Parish Lymington
County Hampshire
Country England
Record set Hampshire Marriages

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 23 Dec 2014 09:33

Please tell us which Punchers you think you ARE related to......we can't help to connect the ones you name unless you give us all the details

As your birth name was OTT, and your mother's maiden name was FARR, the link to Puncher must be in an earlier generation..............IF one exists

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 23 Dec 2014 09:40


Marriages Mar 1935 (>99%)

Farr Constance E I Ott Luton 3b 714
Ott Charles W L Farr Luton 3b 714


1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
9 Caroline Place E Stonehouse, East Stonehouse, Devon, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship to household head Marital condition Gender Age Birth year Birth place Occupation
Charles T Ott Head Married Male 33 1878 London Southwark Musician R M B Royal Navy Transcription
Ethel G Ott Wife Married Female 25 1886 Devon Dartmouth - Transcription
Ethel R Ott Daughter - Female 7 1904 Devon Devonport - Transcription
Ivy M Ott Daughter - Female 5 1906 Devon Devonport - Transcription
Charles W L Ott Son - Male 3 1908 Devon Devonport


First name(s) CHARLES THOMAS
Last name OTT
Marriage quarter 2
Marriage year 1903
CHARLES THOMAS OTT married
ETHEL GLADYS WILLIAMS,
District DEVONPORT
County Devon
Country England
Volume 5B Page 773

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
32 Peach St: Luton Bedfordshire, Luton, Bedfordshire, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship to household head Marital condition Gender Age Birth year Birth place Occupation
Frank Fitzjohn Farr Head Married Male 27 1884 Luton Beds Cost Clerk Transcription
Minnie Farr Wife Married Female 27 1884 Hitwick Beds Straw Hat Machinist Transcription
Aubrey Frank Farr Son - Male 6 1905 Luton Beds - Transcription
Constance Edna Irene Farr Daughter - Female 2 1909 Luton Beds - Transcription


Marriages Sep 1904 (>99%)

Farr Frank Fitzjohn Luton 3b 868
Stringer Minnie Luton 3b 868

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 23 Dec 2014 09:44

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
6, Mount Street, Devonport, Stoke-Damerel, Devon, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
William Williams Head Married Male 46 1855 Bandsman R N Appledore, Devon, England Transcription
Emily Williams Wife Married Female 42 1859 - Redruth, Cornwall, England Transcription
Laura Williams Daughter Single Female 16 1885 - Dartmouth, Devon, England Transcription
Ethel G Williams Daughter Single Female 15 1886 - Dartmouth, Devon, England Transcription
Ethel A Williams Daughter - Female 13 1888 - Dartmouth, Devon, England Transcription
William J Williams Son - Male 12 1889 - Dartmouth, Devon, England Transcription
Ellen C Williams Daughter - Female 7 1894 - Dartmouth, Devon, England Transcription
Frederick D Williams Son - Male 2 1899 - Devonport, Devon, England Transcription
John Brown Boarder Single Male 61 1840 Pensioner R N Chelsea, Middlesex, England Transcription
George Howard Boarder Single Male 39 1862 Assistant Boiler Maker H M Dockyard Hackney, Middlesex, England Transcription
Charles Ott Boarder Single Male 22 1879 Bandsman R N Walworth, Surrey, England Transcription
William Hosking Boarder Single Male 20 1881 Bandsman R N Battersea, Middlesex, England Transcription



OTT CHARLES THOMAS 1877 — 1877 Births & baptisms St. Saviour Southwark, London, England

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 23 Dec 2014 09:50

1881

Name: Chas Ott
Age (Original): 4
Gender: Male
Birth Year: 1877
Birthplace: Old Kent Rd, Middlesex, England
Relationship to Head of Household: Son
Marital Status: Single
Address: 42 Ellerdale Street
Event Place: Lewisham, Kent, England
Record Type: Household
Affiliate Publication Number: RG11
Piece/Folio: 733 / 54
Page Number: 33
Household Role Gender Age Birthplace
Chas Ott Head M 29 Walworth, Surrey, England
Hannah Ott Wife F 25 Brackley, Northamptonshire, England
Chas Ott Son M 4 Old Kent Rd, Middlesex, England
Wm Ott Son M 2 Walworth
Alfred Ott Son M 0 Lewisham, Kent, England
GS Film number: 1341171


Name: Charles Ridley Ott
Event Type: Marriage
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration Year: 1875
Registration District: Greenwich
County: London
Event Place: Greenwich, London, England
Volume: 1D
Page: 1225
Line Number: 218

Charles Ridley Ott married Hannah Elizabeth Ford

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 23 Dec 2014 09:54

First name(s) CHARLES RIDLEY
Last name OTT
Gender Male
Age 87
Birth year 1852
Occupation RETIRED
Departure year 1939
Departure day 15
Departure month 7
Departure port SOUTHAMPTON
Destination port MONTREAL
Destination MONTREAL
Country CANADA
Destination country CANADA
Ship name ASCANIA
Ship official number 147037
Ship master's first name G R
Ship master's last name POPE
Shipping line CUNARD WHITE STAR LIMITED
City SOUTHAMPTON
Ship destination port MONTREAL
Ship destination country CANADA
Ship registered tonnage 8437
Number of passengers 277

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 23 Dec 2014 10:22

Somewhat 'out' on this birth......did you use freebmd?

PUNCHER CLARIES EILEEN 1911 1970 1970 Deaths & burials Maldon, Essex, England

First name(s) CLARICE E
Last name LEIGHTON
Birth year 1911
Birth quarter 3
Registration month -
Mother's last name COOK
District WEST HAM
County Essex
Country England
Volume 4A
Page 477

Gritty

Gritty Report 23 Dec 2014 14:48

British Royal Air Force, Airmen's service records

name(s) Cyril Frederick Puncher
Birth date 25 Feb 1903
Birth parish Bow
Birth town London
Birth county Middlesex
Attestation date 05 Sep 1921 (entry into RAF)
Attestation age 18
Service number 349599
Archive reference AIR 79/2894
Religious Denomination: Church of England
Next of Kin: Mrs W C Puncher (mother)
Record set British Royal Air Force, Airmen's service records 1912-1939

Effie

Effie Report 24 Dec 2014 01:27

Thank you for your help regarding the Puncher family. The strange thing is that I did have some Punchers in my tree which I had put down a few years ago. However it only came to my mind that I had a friend called Norma I Puncher b.1935 Maldon Essex and her father was Cyril Frederick Puncher b.1903 Bow (Poplar) London and mother was Clarice E Leighton b. 1911 West Ham London or Essex. They were married in 1934 Wandsworth but did move to Hitchin Hertfordshire where I was also brought up. I have mentioned this to Norma but she does not seem to know much about the ancestors. What I am trying to find out if there are any connections between Cyril Frederick Puncher and the other Puncher's I have in my tree as so far I cannot find any and it would be great if we were related Norma and myself. I have noticed that a few of the Puncher's come from Essex or East London Bow, Poplar and Stepney. It does appear that I am related to the Puncher's that I have on my tree so that is what I am trying to find out about Cyril Frederick Puncher b.1903 and his parents were Walter Charles Puncher b.1874 Poplar London and his wife was Elizabeth Emma Bruce b.1876 Poplar London and they were married 1901 J/F/M Hackney London. I believe Walter's father was James John Puncher b.1847 London and mother was Sarah M Staples b. abt 1847 London and were married J/F/M 1867 Shoreditch London.
Many thanks for your help and have a nice Christmas
Regards
Effie Lewis (nee Ott)