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24 Dec 2014 01:50 |
As you have not said who these punchers are that are in your tree, it makes it almost impossible to find out if there is any connection with this family
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Effie
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25 Dec 2014 01:06 |
Hi I have been going through my GR tree to find out more about the Puncher family and have come across a Puncher in this tree as follows:
John Osband Ott b 1801 Bermondsey London married Anne Desmoulins b. 1804 St Giles Middlesex and they had 11 children to whom one was Sarah Elizabeth Ott b.1830 Rotherhithe and she married Benjamin Acton Wood b.1833 Bermondsey and they had 5 children to whom one was Martha Elizabeth Acton Wood b.1865 Rotherhithe and she married David Peggs b.1855 Chelmsford Essex and had 8 children to one was Alfred Daniel Peggs b.1889 Rotherhithe and he married Lillian Ivy V PUNCHER B.1890 Upton Park Essex and they had 2 girls and 1 boy. I always had agt the back of my mind that Lillian Puncher was related to me as well as the others but I still cannot find any connection with Cyril Frederick Puncher b.1903 Poplar London and his father who was Walter Charles Puncher b.1874 Poplar London.
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Effie
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25 Dec 2014 01:11 |
Sorry I didn't finish this properly as pressed the button by mistake. I would be grateful if you could confirm this and many thanks for your help. Regards Effie Lewis
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Jacqueline
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25 Dec 2014 09:28 |
Glad you got back to us Effie
The best way to find connections (if any) is to start by researching the name you are sure of
Marriages Dec 1908 (>99%)
PEGGS Alfred Daniel W. Ham 4a 479 PUNCHER Lilian Ivy V W. Ham 4a 479 Puncher Lily Ivy V W. Ham 4a 479
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Jacqueline
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25 Dec 2014 09:31 |
1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 116 St Awdrys Road Barking, Barking, Essex, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship to household head Marital condition Gender Age Birth year Birth place Occupation Alfred Daniel Peggs Head Married Male 22 1889 London Rotherithe Assurance Agent Transcription Lilian Ivy Violet Peggs Wife Married Female 21 1890 Ipton Part - Transcription Lilian Hannah Marttice Peggs Daughter - Female 1 1910 Ipton Part
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Jacqueline
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25 Dec 2014 09:37 |
This may be her in 1891, but I think you'd need to get a copy of her marriage cert to confirm her father's details
1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Neville Road, West Ham, Essex, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place William Puncher Head Married Male 46 1845 Living On His Own Means House Property Lowestoft, Suffolk, England Transcription Hannah S Puncher Wife Married Female 40 1851 - Mile End, Middlesex, England Transcription William T J Puncher Son Single Male 20 1871 Painter & Paper Hanger Mile End, Middlesex, England Transcription Daniel F W Puncher Son Single Male 18 1873 Painter & Paper Hanger Southwark, Middlesex, England Transcription George R Puncher Son - Male 16 1875 Painter & Paper Hanger Mile End, Middlesex, England Transcription Hannah S Puncher Daughter - Female 12 1879 Scholar Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England Transcription Frances C K Puncher Daughter - Female 9 1882 Scholar Stratford, Middlesex, England Transcription Henrietta B A Puncher Daughter - Female 5 1886 - Leytonstone, Essex, England Transcription Ethel N R Puncher Daughter - Female 3 1888 - Leytonstone, Essex, England Transcription Liliam J Puncher Daughter - Female 0 1891 - Essex, England Transcription
As the father was born in Suffolk, it may be that any connection with the other Punchers is quite remote, especially as the father of Walter C ( born c1874) was born in Buckinghamshire
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Jacqueline
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25 Dec 2014 09:40 |
Can I ask you to confirm that you have proved a connection between yourself and the tree you quote in your last post?
If not, it would be better to do so first, before looking at people who married into that extended family
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Jacqueline
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25 Dec 2014 09:54 |
Sorry, Effie, only just noticed your post at the bottom of page one.
So you are trying to establish a connection with a friend from your childhood who was Puncher at birth...........
Wouldn't that be nice, if you could..............
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Jacqueline
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25 Dec 2014 09:58 |
Marriages Dec 1869 (>99%)
POORE Hannah Sarah Mile End 1c 1064 Postem available - click on Info button Puncher William Mile End 1c 1064
Looks like someone else is researching this family
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Jacqueline
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25 Dec 2014 10:00 |
1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription East Street Welchs Terrace, Mile End Old Town, London, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place William Puncher Head - Male 24 1847 - Suffolk, England Transcription Hannah S Puncher Wife - Female 19 1852 - Middlesex, England Transcription William J T Puncher Son - Male 0 1871 - Middlesex, England Transcription
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Jacqueline
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25 Dec 2014 10:01 |
First name(s) William Last name Puncher Gender Male Birth year 1846 Birth place - Baptism year 1846 Baptism date 1846 Residence Lowestoft, Suffolk, England Place Lowestoft County Suffolk Country England Father's first name(s) Francis Father's last name Puncher Mother's first name(s) Sarah
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Jacqueline
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25 Dec 2014 10:05 |
I think that the father's name on the baptism has been wrongly transcribed
1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Gray Street West, Stepney, Middlesex, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Thomas Puncher Head Married Male 46 1805 Foreman At London Docks - Transcription Sarah Puncher Wife Married Female 43 1808 - - Transcription Thomas Norris Puncher Son Unmarried Male 14 1837 Engineer Loddon, Norfolk, England Transcription Frederic John Puncher Son - Male 12 1839 Errand Boy Loddon, Norfolk, England Transcription Clara Kak Puncher Daughter - Female 11 1840 - Loddon, Norfolk, England Transcription Sarah Puncher Daughter - Female 7 1844 Scholar Lowestoft, Suffolk, England Transcription William Puncher Son - Male 4 1847 - Lowestoft, Suffolk, England Transcription Harry Puncher Son - Male 3 1848 - Lowestoft, Suffolk, England Transcription
1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Market Place, St Peter Mancroft, Norwich, Norfolk, England
First name(s) Last name Gender Age Birth year Birth place Thomas Puncher Male 35 1806 Norfolk, England Transcription Thomas Puncher Male 4 1837 Norfolk, England Transcription Sarah Puncher Female 30 1811 Norfolk, England Transcription Frederic Puncher Male 3 1838 Norfolk, England Transcription Clair Puncher Female 1 1840 Norfolk, England Transcription Maria Beckham Female 25 1816 Norfolk, England Transcription Mary Cullum Female 15 1826 Norfolk, England Transcription
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Jacqueline
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25 Dec 2014 10:07 |
First name(s) Thomas Last name Puncher Name note - Marriage year 1830 Marriage date 23 Nov 1830 Marriage place St Peter Hungate, Norfolk, England Father's first name(s) - Father's last name - Mother's first name(s) - Mother's last name - Spouse's first name(s) Sarah Spouse's last name Norris Spouse's father's fist name(s) - Spouse's father's last name - Spouse's mother's first name(s) - Spouse's mother's last name - Place St Peter Hungate
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Effie
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19 Jan 2015 21:21 |
Well I have been doing some research on the Puncher family and I descend from Sarah Elizabeth Ott b.1830 Rotherhithe London and she married Benjamin Acton Wood b.1833 Bermondsey and they had 7 children to whom one was Martha E Wood b.1865 Rotherhithe London and she married David Peggs b.1855 Chelmsford Essex and one of their sons Alfred D Peggs b.1889 Rotherhithe London married Lilian Ivy V Puncher b.1890 Upton Park Essex. Lilian's father was William F Puncher b.1846 Lowestoft Suffolk and mother was Sarah Hannah Poore b.1852 Middlesex. They are all related to me as Sarah E Ott was my 2nd cousin 4x removed. The reason why I was researching them was because I had a friend where I used to live and her name was Norma I Puncher b.1935 Malden Essex and her parents were Cyril F Puncher b.1903 Poplar London and mother was Clarice E Leighton b.about 1909 (not sure) London or Essex and they married at O/N/D 1934 Wandsworth London. I believe Cyril's father was Walter Charles Puncher b.1874 Bow (Poplar) London and wife was Elizabeth E Bruce b.1876 Poplar London and were married at J/F/M 1901 Hackney London. I have had some of the Puncher's on my tree for a few years but it was only recently that I took it seriously that I wondered if Nortma's parents were related to them especially as they come from the same area but I cannot seem to find if they are so perhaps you would be good enough to let me know if they are related please. Thank you Regards Effie Lewis (nee Ott)
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Jacqueline
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19 Jan 2015 22:27 |
Effie
Please do look carefully at all of the info posted and take note of the locations of the births of the Punchers, and then see if you think there is any connection whatsoever.
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Effie
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20 Jan 2015 17:33 |
Thank you Jacqueline, am still trying to find out more about Cyril Frederick Puncher b. 1903 Poplar and his wife Clarice E Leighton b. 1911 West Ham London. They were married at Wandsworth London O/N/D 1934 also Cyril's father who was Walter Charles Puncher b.1874 Bow London and his wife was Elizabeth Emma Bruce b.1876 Poplar London they were married at Hackney London J/F/M 1901. Cyril Puncher b.1903 Poplar London had two brothers who were Leonard Charles Puncher b.1901 Chelmsford Essex and Harold A Puncher b.1906 Poplar London d.1953 Romford Essex. Cyril Puncher also died 1993 Chelmsford Essex if that is any help.Thank you Regards Effie Lewis
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SylviaInCanada
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21 Jan 2015 06:04 |
Effie
All the people who post on these Boards are only members, just like you, but we are ones who like to help other members ...................
we are not employees of GR .................
and we can only provide you with information that we find from censuses, bmds, other documents that we find online, etc etc
we cannot tell you who is related to who ........
...... YOU have to read through all the information that member helpers have provided for you on this thread, and make up your own mind!
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Effie
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21 Jan 2015 21:56 |
Hi could you please help me to find Walter Charles Puncher b.1874 Poplar London, he married Elizabeth Emma Bruce b.1876 Poplar London and they were married 1901 J/F/M Hackney London Father as I am unable to find Walter Charles Puncher's father but I did see somewhere that his father was Francis Puncher??
Thank you Regards Effie Lewis
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Jacqueline
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21 Jan 2015 22:15 |
The 1881 census is free on
https://familysearch.org/
His father's details (if he knew them) will be on Walter's marriage cert
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Jacqueline
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21 Jan 2015 22:18 |
Effie
Do you read any of the info people find for you?
I copy here the 1891 census posted on page one of this thread
1891 census Driffield Road, Bow or Stratford Le Bow, Poplar, London, England
James J Puncher Head Married Male 44 1847 Card Box Cutter Old Ford, Middlesex, England
Sarah M Puncher Wife Married Female 43 1848 - Old Ford, Middlesex, England
James J Puncher Son Single Male 24 1867 Card Factory Clerk Old Ford, Middlesex, England
Julia M Puncher Daughter Single Female 19 1872 Card Factory Maker Old Ford, Middlesex, England
Walter C Puncher Son Single Male 17 1874 Card Factory Cutter Old Ford, Middlesex, England
Albert Puncher Son - Male 15 1876 Errand Boy Old Ford, Middlesex, England
Edwin Puncher Son - Male 11 1880 Scholar Old Ford, Middlesex, England
Horace Puncher Son - Male 6 1885 Scholar Old Ford, Middlesex, England
Alfred Puncher Son - Male 4 1887 Scholar Old Ford, Middlesex, England
John F Puncher Son - Male 0 1891 - Old Ford, Middlesex, England
ON 24th DEC you wrote that you believed Walther's father was James.
You now say you think it was Francis.........why?
You really do need to take note of everything people find for you.......................it is disheartening when you don't appear to
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